Thanks. I'll take overreaction over complacency anyday. I guess the air marshalls would have snapped into action after the bomb went off...?
No wonder they were complaining about the dress code then, if anonymity is the ONLY advantage and they don't even have that!
Well, gee, ask the survivors of Flight 587 over Queens.
On one hand passengers are supposed to be aware of their surroundings and fellow passengers as our part in homeland defense. Not every flight has air marshalls aboard.
On the other hand, if we become alarmed by what we see, we are not to appear alarmed, or the marshalls who are there (or not there) may suspect us as being plants to expose them.
Now who is supposed to be protected? The passengers and crew, or the air marshalls?
Having worked with several air marshals while they were in the Border Patrol, I would have to know who the marshals are before deciding whether or not to take them seriously.
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If the TSA really wanted to protect people they would not let any arabs on any flight.
These days your best defense is to avoid flying whenever possible. For distances less than 1000 miles, it's faster to drive.
If you have to fly, observe people in the waiting area. If you see lots of arabs ask the airline folks to be moved to a later flight. Tell them why. When enough people start doing this, maybe things will change.
Remember islamic arabs want us dead. Their religion says they go to heaven if they die while killing infidels.
I would probably have "overreacted" to the tune of something far more extreme. Especially when they all alegedly stood up together at the end.
I get edgy enough when I fly. I don't know if I could have tolerated that quietly.
Yeh, and on that other plane where they found the ME guy in the forward restroom trying to dig through the wall into the cockpit---that was just an over-reaction, too, of course.
Now, move along, folks. Nothing to see here. Quickly, quickly. Go buy some duct tape and plastic sheeting, and we'll handle things here...
Also, these group of 14 had expired visas! Nothing was done about it. Joe Scarborough is following up on this story.
First we are told to be the eyes and ears because we all have to help out. Then with the strange, unusual and blatant behaviors of the middle eastern men on board a passenger brings it to the attention of the flight attendants who are ALSO watching this strange, unusual, behavior and NOW they tell us these passengers OVERREACTED? Excuse me? Good for the passengers. They were alert. I'm tired of this "roll over and be taken advantage of" attitude. All it gets you is death at the hands of a perpetrator. I think they did the right thing and...did basically what we have all been told to do and that is be the eyes and ears of law enforcement, etc.
Thanks. I'll take overreaction over complacency anyday. I guess the air marshalls would have snapped into action after the bomb went off...?
Then, I would like to ask him, why t. f. were these "musicians" behaving as they were on the flight?
I'm glad to see that there's "another side" to this story at least. This has been the ONE story that's gotten all the attention, and I've heard it discussed recently on talk radio with the conclusion that this is a new feature on the terrorist horizon that we now have to take into account and be concerned with. I do believe that I've heard OTHER stories of similar nature referred to, on international flights or flights originating elsewhere and arriving in the Continental U.S. I thought I had read recently that investigations of the bathrooms on one of these flights revealed a mirror was removed from the wall, etc. and other telltale signs of something not being on the and and up. The idea of course was that a large number of terrorists could smuggle discrete components of a bomb onto a plane in their carryon luggage, then over the course of the flight, each find their way into the bathroom adding the next little piece to the bomb,etc. Eventually the whole thing would be complete and sometime before landing.....BOOM!!!! Well, it didn't really make sense to me the first time I heard this thesis, and it seems on its way to a permanent debunking now. I think it got its legs and gained a lot of steam because it was released around the same time as the all-too-believable and lamentable footage of the Pentagon hijackers on the morning of 9-11 going through security at the departing airport (Dulles) and being finally waved through EVEN AFTER setting off alarms.
This does not pass the smell test. Were they checking the bathrooms because they thought she was "overreacting"?
Were they staying incognito because they thought SHE was part of a conspiracy to identify and draw them out? Which is it, FEDERALES???
Does anybody think that Terrorist-sponsoring countries supply open criminal records for the terrorists they point our way? Do they have to have occupation listed as "TERRORIST" before somebody notices?
What is the cost of 28 one-way tickets, from Detroit to LA?
Plus Lodging and food? The band played for... what? 5 days? How do we know these men were actually the same ones who played the casino? I still can't logic all this out to a plausible, innocent explanation.
As has been reported by Michelle Malkin's Blog, it was discovered after the Syrians were released, that their visas were expired.... No one noticed that? Why was that not adequate, ALL BY ITSELF, to get them stripped, and on the first plane to Guantanamo?!
Cover-up Ping.
And this article here says: “We have to take all calls seriously, but the passenger was worried, not the flight crew or the federal air marshals,” she said. “The complaint did not stem from the flight crew.”
Well which is it? In her story the fight crew was concerned. Someone had to be concerned or else there wouldn't be a bunch feds and police to meet these guys at the gate when the plane arrived. The author of the original piece couldn't have called the authorities from the plane, so how did they show up at the gate and interrogate the group of "musicians?"
I have updated my FMCDH sign-off with the addition of (BITS).....Blood In The Streets, which I foresee coming soon, due to the enormous increase of the communist progressive movement being shoved down the throat of this failing REPUBLIC through the Judicial tyranny of fiat law, and the passing of unconstitutional laws by the Legislative and Executive branches of our government.
FMCDH(BITS)
I guess the federal gov't expects everyone to be bent over and politically correct as they are.
I tell you - if anything does ever happen on a flight, if these 14 Syrians had made a move and started cutting throats - it's going to be total chaos on that plane, and I think there is a chance the flight marshalls would also be overrun in the melee. no one is going to know what is going on, are these marshalls going to start shooting right away when the first throats are cut, or are they going to reveal themselves and yell "hold it", only to find another Syrian in the "gang" take them out from behind when they reveal themselves.