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A bad sign for voters (barf alert)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | July 22, 2004 | Editorial

Posted on 07/22/2004 4:13:18 PM PDT by Jacquerie

Before entering the polling place in some Florida counties, voters have been confronted by a sign that reads: "Photo and Signature Identification Required." The implication is that they won't be able to vote if they don't have a driver's license or similar identification card, but that is not a full explanation of the law. In fact, registered voters without the proper ID are able to sign a statement affirming their identity and still cast a ballot.

Many voters, especially those who are elderly or poor, may not have a driver's license, and few voters have a command of election law. So the signs could discourage voters before they even enter the precinct. That is not the message Florida election officials should be sending, especially after the indignities of the 2000 election and the recently discredited attempt to purge felons from voter rolls.

Pasco and Pinellas counties have posted such signs in the past. Kurt Browning, Pasco's elections supervisor, still defends the practice, calling it a service to voters by reminding them to bring their identification - although it's a little late unless they left their wallets in the car. Actually, the signs sound more like a warning, similar to the kind posted on restaurant doors that advise patrons without shirts and shoes not to bother seeking service.

Pinellas Supervisor Deborah Clark said she has "trashed the signs" and is no longer going to use them outside of precincts, while those inside will mention both options. "If I feel that's going to keep even one voter from walking into the polling place, I'm not going to do it," Clark said.

Indeed, the purpose of any precinct sign should be to inform and encourage voters, not to intimidate them. Some of the confusion can be traced back to the Voter's Bill of Rights and Responsibilities, which by law has to be posted inside polling places. Under the list of responsibilities, voters are expected to bring proper identification (which does speed things up), but the list of rights states that a voter can prove his or her identity by signing an affidavit that is provided by poll workers.

In other words, any sign at a polling place that suggests there is only one way for voters to identify themselves is not only misleading, but also an inaccurate interpretation of the law. Such signs don't belong on precinct walls.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: fraud; id; identification; motorvotor; voterfraud; voterid
Q: When does an affadavit constitute proof of identify? A: In 'rat precincts.
1 posted on 07/22/2004 4:13:19 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: Jacquerie

This will help screen out potential democrats. (ie:too stupid to vote).


2 posted on 07/22/2004 4:15:14 PM PDT by ChadsDad (If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.)
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To: Jacquerie

Are these affadavits public records and can they be matched against the signature on the registration card?


4 posted on 07/22/2004 4:18:52 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Jacquerie

Jacquerie writes: "Q: When does an affadavit constitute proof of identify? A: In 'rat precincts."

Not only that, but as I understand it, the complaints about disenfranchised voters came out of 'rat-controlled precincts during the 2000 election. So tell me how the Repubs somehow corrupted the 'rat precinct leadership to "steal the election?" But of course, no theft actually happened. In fact, the 'rats attempted a steal (by disqualifying military ballots and endless recounting in 'rat precincts to find new votes), but they failed!


5 posted on 07/22/2004 4:19:11 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: CubsAre123

In California, no identification is required to vote. In fact, precinct workers are specifically prohibited from asking for ID from anyone coming to vote.


6 posted on 07/22/2004 4:22:13 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: NonValueAdded

Are they public record? I don't know but they should be. The notion that an affadavit should substitute for a drivers license or birth certificate encourages voter fraud, just as the rats intended. Voting is way too easy in this country.


7 posted on 07/22/2004 4:24:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: So Cal Rocket

When I went to my polling place in LA at the last election, there were two booths for Republicans, one for Independents, and four for Democrats.

The Republicans had to stand in line.


8 posted on 07/22/2004 4:25:07 PM PDT by Argus
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To: So Cal Rocket

So ... someone could vote 50 times? If they don't have to have a Voter card or ID themselves, what's to keep every Republican from going and voting in 50 different polling centers?????


9 posted on 07/22/2004 4:25:22 PM PDT by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: So Cal Rocket

No ID or AFF at all? So I assume that all of the hard working, taxpaying voters are ripped off by DNC sponsored busloads of illegal aliens. That alone explains your commie legislature and tax structure.


10 posted on 07/22/2004 4:29:51 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: Jacquerie

Vote early and vote OFTEN !!


11 posted on 07/22/2004 4:31:21 PM PDT by conshack
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To: TexasGreg

Republicans don't because we respect the law. The very laws that screw us.


12 posted on 07/22/2004 4:32:06 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: Argus

"The Republicans had to stand in line."

It's ok to discriminate against Republicans!


13 posted on 07/22/2004 4:32:12 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
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To: Jacquerie

It will screen out all of those who cannot legally vote. ...good move, and to heck with the paranoids!


14 posted on 07/22/2004 4:32:25 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Jacquerie

I have to bet these poor folks that have no identification somehow manage to find it to get their welfare benefits, food stamps and other government handouts. The dims love a "No Accountability" approach to absolutely everything.


15 posted on 07/22/2004 4:35:33 PM PDT by conshack
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To: CubsAre123

Ah, but here in Maryland poll workers are required NOT to ask for ID. Nothing, nada, zilch. They verify your address verbally and may ask you for date of birth.
Can't wait to see if my recently deceased father will be voting. Never mind. At age 84 he became a Republican. Only dead Dems vote here.


16 posted on 07/22/2004 4:41:14 PM PDT by pieces of time
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To: pieces of time

Ah, but here in Maryland poll workers are required NOT to ask for ID.

No tickie.......no laundry!!!!


17 posted on 07/22/2004 4:49:28 PM PDT by conshack
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To: Jacquerie

The article is misleading.

A provisional ballot is akin to voting absentee.

Provisional ballots are also segregated to allow for proving the person checks out.

This article is notworthy because it points to the NAACP of flooding polling places with ineligible voters.

The next question is whether the NAACP will be having buss junkets between the counties. Each of the 67 counties ave SEPERATE voter rolls. In theory, you could vote fraudulently 66 times.


18 posted on 07/22/2004 5:41:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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