Posted on 07/20/2004 6:24:20 PM PDT by HAL9000
Of course, and Berger's lawyer is Lanny Breuer, another Clinton staffer. This is a Clinton scandal: remember that Berger accompanied Clinton during his 9-11 testimony. Oh, no, of course the MSM didn't report that; they were too busy castigating Bush for testifying with Cheney. No bias there . . . .
I agree with that frustration. But I take comfort in the hope that he will win....BECAUSE..if he loses....something like Berger walking would be the smallest of atrocities that we would see for a while.
I am old enough...and have been involved with politics enough now to know what I did not know as a youngster....That we need the second term to undo a lot of the crap that was caused by the Dem administration and leadership.
If Bush gets re-elected....I have a feeling he will do what I saw him do in Texas....Get more conservative and play more hardball. And he won't be so friendly to the other side anymore....because he won't be running after a second term....
If he gets re-elected...he'll be able to go after things, like Judges, a lot harder.
That's politics though...until November...he has to play the game...
We just have to hang in there.
We need that extra 4 years.
Along with putting documents in his coat and pants, Berger acknowledged removing some documents in a portfolio. 'Ooops, I accidentally stuck them in here. And here. And here.....accidentally.'
A boa constrictor couldn't swallow half the stuff that SeeBS and the MSM do.
Danny rather did a pathetic attempt at a cover-up on the SeeBS news. According to cap'n dan, it's all a pub dirty trick.
Funny, that Kerry gave a major 'policy' speech shortly after these papers were misplaced. Well whatever, Kerry's speech was about what 'HE' would do, to better protect our ships and ports against terrorist while Bush offered nothing.
Or were the Bush people just keeping the plans 'secret' for greater protection; I mean it was 'Classified'. . .
The verykerrypeople responded that Berger was NOT working (as per definition ?)for Kerry at that time. . .'it was no more than a coincidence' and it was all Kerry's ideas anyway.
No wonder, we are waiting to hear the rest of Kerry's plans for America. . .Berger got caught. . .
Of course, there is more to this; Clinton needed his behind covered for sure; but what a great idea. . .a 'twofer' by Berger.
Do wonder if Clinton knew that Berger was doing more than just protecting himself/Clinton et al; that he might be aiding Kerry as well. . .
. . .if that was the case, of course. . .
We here in Texas are not proud that RATher came from Texas.
We are, however, estatic that his real current residence is up in the North East and not here in our State. Now a days he only makes it down this way for bogus photo ops.
Now if we could just get rid of that fat mouthy skank from the Ditsy Chix...
We here in Texas are not proud that RATher came from Texas.
We are, however, estatic that his real current residence is up in the North East and not here in our State. Now a days he only makes it down this way for bogus photo ops.
Now if we could just get rid of that fat mouthy skank from the Ditsy Chix...
Does anyone have a photo of this National Archive Place where Sandy accidentally stuffed classified documents in his cloths?
Docs in the Pants
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., said the Kerry campaign "needs to come forward" about any information that could have been passed on to them from Berger.
"I don't know what happened to these documents after they were put in Mr. Berger's pants, but it's been reported in the press that these documents related to homeland security and our airports and seaports and it's very interesting to note that those are two areas where Sen. Kerry has been critical of the Homeland Security Department," Chambliss said. "I would hope, No. 1, that the Kerry administration would disavow any connections with Berger, that they would come forward with any documents ... and that we can bring this matter to a close very quickly."
Democratic strategist Richard Goodstein, however, said Kerry should "absolutely not" drop Berger from his team.
"The documents that Sandy supposedly took were copies. There are copies elsewhere throughout the [National] Archives and elsewhere in Washington, so it's not like he was trying to cover something up," Goodstein said.
But Ben Ginsburg, national counsel for the Bush-Cheney '04 campaign (search), said the big question is whether Kerry got his hands on any of the information in question.
"That's an essential question that needs to be answered from the Kerry campaign — did they benefit from documents that they should not have had?"
Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., said more information is needed before a judgment is made on Berger's actions, but "obviously, the timing of it is not good" for Kerry.
"From now on, until the election, everything like this will have a spotlight put on it, examined very carefully," Lott said.
Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., told FOX News that it's not yet known if there was any damage to national security as a result of Berger's alleged actions, but said the case shouldn't yet be put in a bright spotlight.
"I really don't see that this is going to be a major issue ... while it indicates some sloppiness, I don't think this is a big deal that would be — should be — the focus of national attention," Bond said.
"Unfortunately, there are a lot more serious [security] breaches every day … I wish we could get a better handle on the leaks that come from the members of Congress themselves because they have been harmful and they happen every day."
Kerry Campaign Response
The Kerry campaign maintains that most of the Clinton-era information conveyed to the Kerry campaign was delivered by former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Richard Holbrooke and former Deputy Secretary of State Jamie Rubin, a paid Kerry staffer.
Berger has been an informal, unpaid adviser; campaign officials said his participation in the campaign has been limited to conference calls and policy discussions inside the campaign and conversations with the press.
Within the Kerry campaign, speculation has long been made that Berger has kept himself out of Kerry's inner circle to remain available for a top posting in a potential Kerry administration. There was even talk that Berger was on Kerry's short list for director of central intelligence.
Privately, insiders say Berger had his share of critics in the Kerry campaign, largely as a function of the competition for the candidate's ear. Inside sources claim that when Berger didn't get a prominent paid official position, he backed away from the Kerry campaign.
Officials with the Bush-Cheney campaign point out that Berger gave a surprise background briefing to reporters on Feb. 27 on behalf of the Kerry campaign, in which he outlined airline security issues apparently drawn from the now-missing classified memos Berger is accused of removing from the National Archives (search).
SNIP
Kerry's spokesman Phil Singer released a statement to FOX News, questioning the timing of the report.
"This appears to be a partisan attempt to divert attention away from the 9/11 commission report. Instead of using the report's recommendations to learn how we can improve our homeland security, Republicans are playing politics with a criminal investigation. That's wrong, and in November voters will have a choice on the ballot between a candidate they can trust and a president that continues to mislead the nation," he said.
No matter what the outcome of the investigation, other lawmakers and observers said it's no coincidence the information's coming out now at the height of an election year.
"There's more politics around this town than you can cut with a knife — it's unbelievable," Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., told FOX News. "I've never seen Washington so partisanly charged. Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of it and I suspect the American people are getting tired of it as well."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126358,00.html
Yeah, and then what? When the Republicans boof it (as I'm 90% sure they will, as they always do) and Berger skates - will you still support and vote for them?
They're counting on you to do exactly that. They're counting on you to support them no matter how lame they are, no matter how lazy they are, no matter how much of your money they squander.
So, what will you do if they screw the pooch on this one?
... An Incinerator.""
I imagine ole Sandy had his fireplace cleaned several times after he ..."lost" those documents.
Good one! LOL. . .
"If the GOP allows this matter to drop, I'm going to allow my volunteer work and financial support of the GOP "drop" as well. I'm TIRED OF THIS."
I totally agree. I'm tired of defending a president who wont even defend himself. They already have enough evidence to charge him with several crimes. And while we're on the subject... we have a Republican Executive branch right now... so why haven't campaign finance laws been enforced against Moveon.org and Soros's billions? We cant compete with that much money
Perhaps the old Balch Oldsmobile dealership on La Harpe?
I am ashamed that RATher went to SHSU here in Huntsville.
He wasn't smart enough to get into Rice or even Cougar High.
So he went to SHSU.
Of course while there it was known as
Sam
Houston
Institute of
Technology
Kerry says 'no'. . .they did not benefit (I mean he is not President yet. . .Berger does not say the charges are untrue; rather he offers; and lamely; that the charges are . . .'wrong'.
Clinton wishes and washes. . .trying to clean the lies; but they are still recognizeable. . .oh, and yes, he has known for months. . .and what about the timing?
read post 14
First of all, what tape? I read an article today that said there was no camera.
Second, this us being done right, and perhaps cast a wider net than Berger.
Huntsville got rid of him early though!
And your right...he would not had made into Rice.
I drove past Sam's giant likeness just a couple of weeks ago. I always go that way on the way into H-town so I can see him towering there amongst the pines.
Just one of the many joys of going through East Texas.
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