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1 posted on 07/20/2004 12:32:29 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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Berger accidently threw away a few documents? Right! This is an excellent example of the way the Klintoons treated our national security. Creeps; all of them.


2 posted on 07/20/2004 12:46:27 AM PDT by raisincane (Kerry has never made a decision he agrees with.)
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", to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced,"

Okay. If all the documents were produced for the commission, what did Clinton need Berger to pick through them for in the first place? Does this mean any bozo can waltz into a room with classified documents without someone else being there?

Even IF Berger is this inept and sloppy, it really says alot for his ability to serve as National Security Advisor..to Clinton AND Kerry.

Good night, JohnHuang2. Don't you ever sleep?


3 posted on 07/20/2004 12:48:56 AM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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The former national security adviser had ordered his anti-terror czar, Richard Clarke, in early 2000 to write the after-action report

Oh, yeah, this is getting good now!!!!!

4 posted on 07/20/2004 12:50:26 AM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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curious


12 posted on 07/20/2004 1:01:17 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Many a law, many a commandment have I broken, but my word never.)
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Breuer said Berger believed he was looking at copies of the classified documents, not originals.


It's been a few years, but when I was an old Lt. in the Army I seem to recall original documents all being stamped ORIGINAL and copies being stamped COPY.


17 posted on 07/20/2004 1:08:23 AM PDT by Sapper26 (In Europe will it be called Celsius 488.3?)
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In a blockbuster revelation that may prove to be the most shocking scandal of the Clinton administration,

How does that Carly Simon song go? These are the good old days!

20 posted on 07/20/2004 1:11:17 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ¡°ml maximize¡± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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Berger and his lawyer told the news agency yesterday he knowingly removed handwritten notes he made while reading classified anti-terror documents at the archives by sticking them in his jacket and pants. They said he also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio.

"I deeply regret the sloppiness involved, but I had no intention of withholding documents from the commission, and to the contrary, to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced," Berger said in a statement to the AP.


Sloppiness? In his pants? Sure. I wonder what he's hiding in his cheeks.
21 posted on 07/20/2004 1:17:57 AM PDT by jaykay
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Yep, the CIA isn't the problem. It's the smarmy slobs in the Clinton administration. It's all starting to come out in the wash.


24 posted on 07/20/2004 2:04:56 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (While Bush plays "rope a dope", Kerry/Edwards play "grope a dope".)
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FYI: democRATS in the news pings!
26 posted on 07/20/2004 2:08:27 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("Let's roll" in 2004 ----- Vote GOP!)
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...to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced,"

Enogh of the Clintonian Horse Sh!t. How about you just return everything you stole, you little twerp!

28 posted on 07/20/2004 3:13:19 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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Breuer said Berger believed he was looking at copies of the classified documents, not originals.

Berger took handwritten notes on the classified papers, which his lawyer claims was "technical violation of Archive procedures, but it is not all clear to us this represents a violation of the law."

For classified documents, it is the INFORMATION CONTAINED that cause the documents to be classified. Every copy of classified documents is also classified and therefore every copy of a classified document is recorded and tracked.

Also, any material developed or created from a classified document is assumed to be classified at the same level as the original document or higher and therefore strict procedures must be followed to also classify the resulting work.

Mr. Berger's notes would be a derivative work and therefore also be controlled documents. Mr. Berger could not possible worked as national security advisor and not understand this.

The lawyer's comments about the notes being a "technicality" is pure smokescreen for the benefit of the liberal media.

If I were to do what Mr. Berger did, I would be fired from my job and very likely prosecuted.

30 posted on 07/20/2004 3:29:04 AM PDT by miner89 (Wherever you go, there you are)
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The Clinton Legacy Revealed


34 posted on 07/20/2004 3:49:36 AM PDT by Stallone (Make love not war! ~ Lynndie England)
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Is it possible that this could be a smokescreen in order to get revisionist documents into the archives instead of destroying documents that show Sick Willy's culpability?
36 posted on 07/20/2004 3:53:40 AM PDT by Vesuvian (Vorsprung durch Technik- It's an Audi Thing)
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Let's get this straight: the former National Security Advisor stole classified documents relating to his administration's actions in response to terrorism by concealing them in his pants like a common shoplifter and the reaction by the press and the 9/11 Commission is virtually nonexistent?

Is anybody connecting the dots here? What is Berger trying to conceal?

37 posted on 07/20/2004 3:54:33 AM PDT by USMCVet
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Another X42 leftover who should be tried for 9/11 ping.


39 posted on 07/20/2004 4:48:10 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Flush the john/john rat ticket in 2004. #1 & #4 liberals in Congress.)
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He needs to make a few changes in the report; thats all....


44 posted on 07/20/2004 5:17:48 AM PDT by treeclimber
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Clinton aide took home classified 9-11 papers

Should be: Clinton aid stole classified 9-11 papers

It's going to be real interesting to watch how the dinosaur media ignores this one. If there is a silence about this I think it constitutes a new low.
48 posted on 07/20/2004 5:23:47 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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So did Berger get the documents to help Richard Clarke write his book????


50 posted on 07/20/2004 5:26:27 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Remember this juicy piece from long ago, in which Berger is mentioned? What wasn't the testimony ever made public?


Aide: Clinton Unleashed bin Laden
Chuck Noe, NewsMax.com
Thursday, Dec. 6, 2001
Bill Clinton ignored repeated opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist allies and is responsible for the spread of terrorism, one of the ex-president’s own top aides charges.
Mansoor Ijaz, who negotiated with Sudan on behalf of Clinton from 1996 to 1998, paints a portrait of a White House plagued by incompetence, focused on appearances rather than action, and heedless of profound threats to national security.

Ijaz also claims Clinton passed on an opportunity to have Osama bin Laden arrested.

Sudanese President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, hoping to have terrorism sanctions lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of bin Laden and "detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas,” Ijaz writes in today’s edition of the liberal Los Angeles Times.

These networks included the two hijackers who piloted jetliners into the World Trade Center.

But Clinton and National Security Adviser Samuel "Sandy” Berger failed to act.

”I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities,” Ijaz writes.

”The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening."

Thank Clinton for 'Hydra-like Monster'

”As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster,” says Ijaz, chairman of a New York investment company and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Ijaz’s revelations are but the latest to implicate the Clinton administration in the spread of terrorism. Former CIA and State Department official Larry Johnson today also noted the failure of Clinton to do more than talk.

Among the many others who have pointed out Clinton’s negligence: former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, former Clinton adviser Dick Morris, the late author Barbara Olson, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Iraqi expert Laurie Mylroie, the CIA and some of the victims of Sept. 11.

And the list grows: members of Congress, pundit Charles R. Smith, former Department of Energy official Notra Trulock, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, government counterterrorism experts, the law firm Judicial Watch, New Jersey gubernatorial candidate Bret Schundler, the liberal Boston Globe – and even Clinton himself.

The Buck Stops Nowhere

Ijaz's account in the Times reads like a spy novel. Sudan’s Bashir, fearing the rise of bin Laden, sent intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996. They offered to arrest bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia or to keep close watch over him. The Saudis "didn't want their home-grown terrorist back where he might plot to overthrow them.”

”In May 1996, the Sudanese capitulated to U.S. pressure and asked bin Laden to leave, despite their feeling that he could be monitored better in Sudan than elsewhere.”

That’s when bin Laden went to Afghanistan, along with "Ayman Zawahiri, considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks; Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to obtain electronic equipment for al-Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage, Bin Laden's personal secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in the U.S. for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya; and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of carrying out the embassy attacks.”

If these names sound familiar, just check the FBI's list of most-wanted terrorists.

The Clinton administration repeatedly rejected crucial information that Sudan had gathered on these terrorists, Ijaz says.

In July 2000, just three months before the deadly attack on the destroyer USS Cole in Yemen, Ijaz "brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings. A senior counter-terrorism official from one of the United States' closest Arab allies - an ally whose name I am not free to divulge - approached me with the proposal after telling me he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S. counter-terrorism officials.”

This offer would have brought bin Laden to that Arab country and eventually to the U.S. All the proposal required of Clinton was that he make a state visit to request extradition.

"But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics within the ruling family - Clintonian diplomacy at its best.”

'Purposeful Obfuscation'

Appearing on Fox News Channel’s "The O’Reilly Factor” on Wednesday night, Ijaz said, "Everything we needed to know about the terrorist networks” was in Sudan.

Newsman Bill O’Reilly asked how Clinton and Berger reacted to the deals Ijaz brokered to bring bin Laden and company to justice. "Zero. They didn’t respond at all.”

The Clintonoids won’t get away with denials, he said. "I’ve got the documentation,” including a memorandum to Berger.

"This was purposeful obfuscation,” he asserted.

O’Reilly wondered why the White House didn’t want information about the terrorists. Ijaz said that was for the American people to judge, but when pressed he suggested that Clinton might intentionally have allowed the apparently weak bin Laden to rise so he could later make a show of crushing him.

Concludes Ijaz in the Times: "Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.”


54 posted on 07/20/2004 5:42:52 AM PDT by combat_boots
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It's a shame we don't manufacture rope in this country anymore.

I guess we also no longer have the will to use it.


58 posted on 07/20/2004 5:59:36 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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