Posted on 07/16/2004 1:05:47 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Bumping and bookmmarking this.
The problem I have with the question of Bin Laden having nucs is why haven't they used them yet? Why let us keep killing them and confiscating their funds and agents? Seems to me he would have used them as soon as possible after 9/11. I believe that while possible he could have them I also believe it is improbable.
They did. There were op eds written by former Clinton staffers laughing at the threat of terrorism in the US printed just a month prior to 9-11. One these guys was even heavily involved in Move-on's lame attempt to have Bush impeached.
Having read the technical description of the maintenance required of such a device, any coming out of the old Soviet Union would by now fizzle.
I understand that the content and shape of both the fissile material and the chemical explosive charges degrade and must be maintained rigorously. Such maintenance is virtually impossible without a full state-sponsored nuclear lab.
We got problems, no doubt, but Russian Suitcase Nukes are probably not worth losing sleep over. I would worry about the Iranians.
This from the same "news" organization that's been hyping the military draft and Cheney must go stories. Major credibility problem. Like they don't have any.
Same argument has been posted before. These suitcase nukes don't last long once manufactured and are not like what you see in the movies.. They could use dirty bombs yes, homocide bombers yes, ...but I doubt nukes.
America! Be strong. Be Strong. Your great President is good help your great President. Grom will help America, Poland will help America. contry that like America will help, no no no, I close my eyes know what America will do to evil persons that attack great country America.
And Gosh, they're selling this guy's book, so therefore it's credible, and anyone who doesn't think it is is an idiot.
It's the same as CBS and Viacom and Clinton's book. They're just shilling for it.
Not only that, but they would show up like a lighted flare on the radiation monitors now installed nearly everywhere. Nukes are the least of our worries.
Who's Grom?
Fear mongering at its worst. If you believe this nonsence go live in a fallout shelter. There are NO suitcase bombs! Its a myth. If old Osama had em--he would have used them up by now. He doesn't have time to sit on them. Now, that doesn't say he's not planning on a big attack--But it will be something like the last one--use our own stuff against us. Take over a nuclear plant and let it melt down, Take over a chemical plant and blow toxic gas into the air, or crash a Gas truck into a high rise or Vegas casino. They will use what's at hand and not bring in Nukes. That will take planning. They may even go back to airplanes as weapons. Who's to say they don't rent a lear jet (they got money)--load it with "Photographic equiptment" (explosives) and have a pilot crash it into something symbolic? There are so many ways to attack us that do not need Nukes.
Not to be a wide eye paranoid nutter. But...it could be a possible explanation that they bought "fizzled" ones on the black market, and have just now gotten the support from Iran/N.Korea/China/France to rebuild them. Then the timing is about right.
I'm not losing sleep over this however.
What good info contained in this article is lost due to the absurd "bin laden has nukes in America already" bs.
Pity.
GROM (Grupa Reagowania Operacyjno Mobilnego which translates to Operational Mobile Response Group) is a Polish elite commando group that is assisting us in Iraq. Very interesting info at the link on that group and how they are key to the victory in Iraq.
22 posted on 07/16/2004 9:58:46 AM PDT by ravingnutter
If Williams or NewsMax has proof of "suitcase bombs" in the hands of ANYBODY AT ALL, it is their solemn duty to their country to present it forthwith, and not use such claims as a LOWLIFE TEASE to sell a silly book.
Jeesh, are we all supposed to be idiots out here, or what?
"homicide"
This is the most common comment or criticism of this scenario.
I do not think it holds up becuase the same criteria or logic, when applied to 911 does not hold up. They easily could have done 911 earlier. Before 911 one could have made the same argument. If one said, "they are living here and will hijack airlines and crash in to the WTC or Pentagon." Using your same argument one would answer -- if they could they would have done it by now.
But they showed patience and diligence and waited for a corrdinated strike where they were successful in hijacking 4 planes and hitting targets with three of them.
Whether they have suitcase nukes or the ability to use them if they possess them is questionable. But to say they would have already used them, therefore they don;t have them does not hold up given their prior history. If they do have them they will wait for a coordinated strike.
Wait, that's Gram.
Nevermind.
Sounds awesome. Thanks for the info!
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