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Terror in the Skies Again (Absolutely Positive MUST-READ)
Womens' Wall Street.com ^ | July 2004 | Annie Jacobsen

Posted on 07/15/2004 6:19:30 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

A WWS Exclusive Article

Note from the Editors: You are about to read an account of what happened during a domestic flight that one of our writers, Annie Jacobsen, took from Detroit to Los Angeles. The WWS Editorial Team debated long and hard about how to handle this information and ultimately we decided it was something that should be shared. What does it have to do with finances? Nothing, and everything. Here is Annie's story.

On June 29, 2004, at 12:28 p.m., I flew on Northwest Airlines flight #327 from Detroit to Los Angeles with my husband and our young son. Also on our flight were 14 Middle Eastern men between the ages of approximately 20 and 50 years old. What I experienced during that flight has caused me to question whether the United States of America can realistically uphold the civil liberties of every individual, even non-citizens, and protect its citizens from terrorist threats.

On that Tuesday, our journey began uneventfully. Starting out that morning in Providence, Rhode Island, we went through security screening, flew to Detroit, and passed the time waiting for our connecting flight to Los Angeles by shopping at the airport stores and eating lunch at an airport diner. With no second security check required in Detroit we headed to our gate and waited for the pre-boarding announcement. Standing near us, also waiting to pre-board, was a group of six Middle Eastern men. They were carrying blue passports with Arabic writing. Two men wore tracksuits with Arabic writing across the back. Two carried musical instrument cases – thin, flat, 18" long. One wore a yellow T-shirt and held a McDonald's bag. And the sixth man had a bad leg -- he wore an orthopedic shoe and limped. When the pre-boarding announcement was made, we handed our tickets to the Northwest Airlines agent, and walked down the jetway with the group of men directly behind us.

My four-year-old son was determined to wheel his carry-on bag himself, so I turned to the men behind me and said, "You go ahead, this could be awhile." "No, you go ahead," one of the men replied. He smiled pleasantly and extended his arm for me to pass. He was young, maybe late 20's and had a goatee. I thanked him and we boarded the plan.

Once on the plane, we took our seats in coach (seats 17A, 17B and 17C). The man with the yellow shirt and the McDonald's bag sat across the aisle from us (in seat 17E). The pleasant man with the goatee sat a few rows back and across the aisle from us (in seat 21E). The rest of the men were seated throughout the plane, and several made their way to the back.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: civil discourse
civil discourse said: "I always travel invisibly armed, as I assume most thoughtful travelers do."


umm... if you say you are armed on flights id like to know what you mean. i asked what you mean and you demurred. there are lots of critisisms in this thread about ppl "not doing anything". im not gonna ignore a poster in a news group who boasts he flies armed.

841 posted on 07/16/2004 11:29:44 AM PDT by eleven_eleven
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To: Frapster; mtbopfuyn

I have heard back from my source at LAXPD...he said the story is indeed true, and there is a lot more than what was in the article.


842 posted on 07/16/2004 11:35:55 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Rutles4Ever
Cross-posting:

Lileks 'The Bleat', 7/16/04 (re: "Terror in the Skies, Again?" article)

843 posted on 07/16/2004 11:42:18 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Rutles4Ever

http://michellemalkin.com/

TERROR IN THE SKIES III

By Michelle Malkin · July 16, 2004 03:05 PM
I have been speaking with Brendi Rawlin of Porter Novelli (PR rep for Womens Wall Street). According to Brendi, the Washington Post has been sitting on the true story of Annie Jacobsen's "Terror in the Skies" account since last Friday. Dave Adams, the air marshal's spokesman, not only confirmed the story, but has also apparently supplied witness statements and other corroborations of Jacobsen's account. NBC Nightly News, ABC, and Dateline NBC are now on the story as well.

More to come...


845 posted on 07/16/2004 12:12:36 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Critter

jock ewing said that.


846 posted on 07/16/2004 12:13:22 PM PDT by eleven_eleven
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To: civil discourse

ok.. you didnt boast (though you did boast) that you fly armed. you said you fly armed. how so?


847 posted on 07/16/2004 12:20:46 PM PDT by eleven_eleven
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

"Yep. Even the writer stayed on the flight. I guess she wasn't too concerned."

Yeah, heck, if she wanted to get off, all she had to do was open the emergency exit and jump out, right?

Your thinking cap is not on today, apparently...


848 posted on 07/16/2004 12:30:58 PM PDT by busterspam
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To: civil discourse

A copy of the Enquirer works well.


849 posted on 07/16/2004 12:33:06 PM PDT by Critter (...an online gathering place for sissy boy, girlie men, nanny staters.)
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To: Critter

I STILL am fully behind the idea of widely installing sausage meats and bacon on EVERY FLIGHT in Plain view with the Attendants getting up and saying "All Emergency exits are fully equipped with bacon and sausage packages for easier sliding on the way out! In fact, every emergency slide has been liberally greased down with bacon grease and ready for access in case of emergencies!


850 posted on 07/16/2004 12:36:37 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: jimbo123

Update:

http://www.michellemalkin.com

More to come...

3:24pm. Just got off the phone with Annie Jacobsen. She has been writing business reports and articles for WomensWallStreet.com and print magazines for the past two years. Recounting the flight, she told me "My legs were like rubber...It was four and a half hours of terror." She is working on a follow-up story for WomensWallStreet.com on Monday and will appear on NBC Nightly News Monday night. I asked how she felt about suspicions that her story had been a hoax. She hadn't heard of these suspicions and instead has been hearing overwhelming corroboration of her experience in thousands of e-mails, many from pilots and flight attendants reporting similar incidents.

She has been shocked that "for whatever reason, the story didn't develop" in the mainstream media.

I took off my journalist's hat and told her I thought she was a patriot for bringing the story to light.

Now, I want to know why John Mintz and the editors of the Washington Post have deemed Annie Jacobsen's story unfit to print.


851 posted on 07/16/2004 12:41:20 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: princess leah

I've advocated handing out ketchup-sized packets of lard to each passenger. ;)


852 posted on 07/16/2004 12:57:28 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: Badeye
I've heard him interviewed, and I am in agreement with his thesis. That's WHY I wanted out so desperately, I know to trust my instincts. Never have I been so frightened.

Next time, I won't bow to PC, however.

853 posted on 07/16/2004 1:17:04 PM PDT by mombonn (¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: jimbo123

And here's another take:




http://www.donaldsensing.com/
Friday, July 16, 2004

Casing Northwest #327 - threat or hoax?
Now-famous account seems over-detailed; color me skeptical

There is a lot of controversy over whether "Terror in the Skies," by Annie Jacobsen in Women's Wall Street is credible. Annie wrote at engrossing length about Northwest Airlines Flight 327, from Detroit to Los Angeles, on which there were 14 Arab men acting extremely suspiciously - suspiciously enough to alarm the flight crew and cause a swarm of federal officers to charge the aircraft after it gated in LAX.

Michelle Malkin wrote today that she spoke to Dave Adams of the Federal Air Marshals Service (FAMS), who confirmed the main outline of the story - he "was a bit defensive in confirming the story, which seems to lend unsettling credence to Jacobsen's account," says Malkin.

The feds, says Annie, questioned the 14 men at length and finally released them after determining they were clean. They were, reportedly, a musical band hired to play in LA, hence their trip.

So around the internet the story has traveled, resulting in arguments for and against its authenticity. Malkin says the story is true in the main, confirmed by FAMS. But others argue, "Elements of Mrs. Jacobsen's story do not have the ring of truth."

Count me as one of the skeptics.

One of the things I learned in the years I have spent in law enforcement at both the federal and local level is that witnesses of traumatic events relate few details. When people are frightened or otherwise psychologically shocked, their minds don't record movies, but snapshots, and not many of them, either.

Annie's story has a wealth of detail, so much that I find myself disbelieving that she could have been as afraid as she says she was. Since she nowhere indicates that she took contemporaneous notes, I have to conclude her story was written from memory, and written at a minimum many hours after the flight landed.

Look at what Malkin says FAMS confirmed:
... there were 14 Syrians on the flight; they were questioned by the Los Angeles Police Department, FBI, FAM, and so on; they were a musical band.
That's it. This is a far cry from confirming that Annie's story is all its impressive detail is accurate. In fact, it's not even close.

As charitably as I can, let me explain why I think that Annie considerably embellished her story, and not necessarily embellished it deliberately (but might have in some parts; she's a paid writer after all).

One thing professional investigators learn is that almost every witness they interview understands the events concerned through certain, pre-existing templates. One reason different witnesses of the same events give accounts often greatly varying from each other is that their templates are so different. So investigators learn to be suspicious of details, except for the real, main details that are so obvious or important that they break through anyone's template.

Example: a bank robbery gone bad. Witness A says the robber fired his gun several times. "B" says it was nine times. "C" says it was a half-dozen. "D" says the robber had an automatic weapon and sprayed the area. What have they agreed on? Only that the robber fired his gun more than once.

Like most Americans, Annie Jacobsen has a certain template of post-9/11 airline travel that Arab men, especially multiples, are a potential threat aboard an airliner. This is not an unreasonable template, given that it wasn't kilt-wearing Scotsmen who committed 9/11's grim deeds. I have that template, too.

But unconsciously this template affects how she interpreted the events aboard the airliner. She was predisposed to understand the Arab men's actions in threatening ways. She even admits it. Before all the passengers even finished boarding:
As we sat waiting for the plane to finish boarding, we noticed another large group of Middle Eastern men boarding. The first man wore a dark suit and sunglasses. He sat in first class in seat 1A, the seat second-closet to the cockpit door. The other seven men walked into the coach cabin. As "aware" Americans, my husband and I exchanged glances, and then continued to get comfortable. I noticed some of the other passengers paying attention to the situation as well. As boarding continued, we watched as, one by one, most of the Middle Eastern men made eye contact with each other. They continued to look at each other and nod, as if they were all in agreement about something. I could tell that my husband was beginning to feel "anxious."
NB: the plane was still loading passengers, and Annie has already decided that the Arab men are threats. She has already decided they are threats - for what? They made "eye contact" with one another and seemed to agree about something. Might thay have been ensuring they were all together and simply acknowledging that fact?

This is the mighty thin gruel from which Annie constructs a banquet of a near-death experience. Even a McDonald's bag, carried by one of the Arabs, becomes ominous:
But once we were in the air and the seatbelt sign was turned off, the unusual activity began. The man in the yellow T-shirt got out of his seat and went to the lavatory at the front of coach -- taking his full McDonald's bag with him. When he came out of the lavatory he still had the McDonald's bag, but it was now almost empty. He walked down the aisle to the back of the plane, still holding the bag. When he passed two of the men sitting mid-cabin, he gave a thumbs-up sign. When he returned to his seat, he no longer had the McDonald's bag.
Hmm... The bag was full, then it was "almost empty," then it was gone. Sounds like what happens to my McDonalds bag when I finish eating.

Her whole story is rich with such innuendo, after which we learn that nothing happened.

Red State blog says bluntly that Annie's story, "Seems Like a Hoax to Me." They are near-scornfully dismissive of Annie's report of the flight crews' covert alliance with Annie and her husband - which rang very unlikely with me as well - and denounce the whole account as a hoax.

I don't think Annie's article is a hoax. But by no means is it an unbiased, dispassionate, objective account of the flight. Annie was convinced from before takeoff until after landing that her life was in potential peril, and this template filtered every event.

What I am very skeptical of is the wealth of minutiae she reports. Michelle Malkin wrote that OpinionJournal's James Taranto pointed out that the Annie Jacobsen who offers "Creative Writing, Dreamwork, Individual Psychotherapy" lives in Canada, not LA. But I think the account shows some pretty creative recollection, anyway.

So what did happen on Flight 327? Probably nothing more than what Dave Adams of FAMS confirmed explicitly or implicitly to Malkin: there were 14 Arab men traveling with Syrian passports. Their actions did alert the aircrew enough to contact LAX to have federal officers waiting for the plane. The Arabs, a band en route to a gig in LA, were detained, questioned and released.

That's the entire story.

A reasonable question: were the Arabs in fact a band? A commenter on Malkin's site named a real american [sic] wrote (no direct link),
Did you ever stop to think that Detroit, Michigan has one of the largest populations of Arab-Americans in the nation?

Did you ever stop to think that perhaps an Arab family in LA hired the band for a wedding?

I lived in Akron, Ohio and my nice arab employers hired a band from DETROIT to come play at their daughter's wedding, that band had like 10 people in it.
I am absolutely confident that the feds did check their hire out, almost certainly before they released them. And monitored the gig, too.

I won't try to split hairs over how much of Annie's account is embellished, except for the bare details FAMS confirmed, nor how much of it might have been deliberately, not unconsciously, embellished. Nor am I accusing Annie of making a mountain out of a molehill - Arab terrorism against American airlines is a real, persistent threat. But I do think she templated the events enormously, to the point that I am skeptical of most of the other details.

As I finish writing this post, I see a new post by Michelle that I think confirms my template postulate:
Just got off the phone with Annie Jacobsen. ... Recounting the flight, she told me "My legs were like rubber...It was four and a half hours of terror."
So Annie says she was terrorized before the plane even took off.

Michelle also says that the Washington Post "has been sitting on the true story" (well, how much is true, Michelle?) "since last Friday," and that "NBC Nightly News, ABC, and Dateline NBC are now on the story as well." She also says that FAMS has supplied (to whom she says not) witness statements "other corroborations of Jacobsen's account."

I remain skeptical as I explained above, but it is certain that Annie Jacobsen was indeed scared witless by predisposition to be scared, and this fact affected how she understood and reported everything. Lots of embellishments, psychologizing and dramatic reporting here.

Note to commenters: reviewing comments on other blogs about this makes me aware that emotions run high on this report. Think before you write: no profanity, no name calling, no attacks on persons. Violators will be deleted; egregious violators will be banned forever with no more warning. Sorry, but that's just how it is.


854 posted on 07/16/2004 1:19:37 PM PDT by mastequilla
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To: mombonn

Read Gavin DeBeckers book "Gift of Fear". I personally think it should be required reading for every woman alive.


855 posted on 07/16/2004 1:23:57 PM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Rutles4Ever

An amazing story. I can't get on an airplane these days without a complete review of my life and a thorough examination of every item in my bags. But I am a middle aged white male. Definitely a threat.


856 posted on 07/16/2004 1:26:49 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: mastequilla

From Ms. Malkin:

-snip-

the Washington Post has been sitting on the true story of Annie Jacobsen's "Terror in the Skies" account since last Friday

-snip

Dave Adams, the air marshal's spokesman, not only confirmed the story, but has also apparently supplied witness statements and other corroborations of Jacobsen's account. NBC Nightly News, ABC, and Dateline NBC are now on the story as well.

-snip-

She is working on a follow-up story for WomensWallStreet.com on Monday and will appear on NBC Nightly News Monday night.


857 posted on 07/16/2004 1:27:01 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: mastequilla

from Mrs. Jacobsen's story:

-snip-

The 14 Syrians had been hired as musicians to play at a casino in the desert.

-snip-

the 14 men traveled on Northwest Airlines flight #327 using one-way tickets.

-snip-

Two days later they were scheduled to fly back on jetBlue from Long Beach, California to New York -- also using one-way tickets.


858 posted on 07/16/2004 1:33:41 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: busterspam

She was concerned BEFORE the flight even took off. My cap is just fine.


859 posted on 07/16/2004 1:36:04 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (If the Rapture is coming, should I insist on a non-Christian pilot?)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Prior to takeoff she's in her seat and watches 2 groups of suspicious Syrians board and take their seats. 6 together and 8 individually. 1 of them in seat 1A right behind the cockpit. And you wouldn't be suspicious? Do you work for the TSA? Or are you a member of the ACLU?


860 posted on 07/16/2004 1:41:40 PM PDT by jimbo123
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