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AOL's Instant Message Robot a Bush Basher
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 7/15/04 | Dawn Rizzoni

Posted on 07/15/2004 5:23:02 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Huck

And .. proves why people should dump AOL.

There are better and cheaper services. And .. other sources for instant messaging.


101 posted on 07/15/2004 12:29:11 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: ScottFromSpokane; kattracks

Steve Klein returned my call this afternoon.

He says the robot's software was changed about a week ago and now gives no political messages.

He claims that they had no idea it was saying negative responses about Bush until they got complaints. He said the robot was only supposed to make positive statements.

He also claims this news story is 'inaccurate'. And he was very upset with the reporter.

In any event he now knows that many people are angry that the robot was making such biased statements. He says he's getting permission from AOL to do a media campaign to get out the whole story.

Well, if nothing else this whole episode on the 'biased robot' demonstrates that if enough people complain about something....it will get noticed.

FWIW I was impressed that he got back to me so quickly.


103 posted on 07/15/2004 1:34:43 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21

OK. Well, my complaint was explicitly based on the CNS piece, so if the piece is wrong, they'll just throw out my complaint.


104 posted on 07/15/2004 1:49:15 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

You can call him at the number in my post #56. If you leave your name & phone number he'll probably get back to you.


105 posted on 07/15/2004 1:55:26 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: mountaineer
I made the mistake of signing up for AOL's "free 45-day trial" in January, because I thought we could use it while on vacation. It's now July, and they still haven't complied with my several written and telephoned requests - all done as per their instructions - to terminate the account. AOL is evil, pure evil!

AOL is the "thing that wouldn't die".

106 posted on 07/15/2004 2:04:53 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: Smartass; JulieRNR21
AOL stinks. I dumped them 3 years ago this October for AT&T Broadband Internet (now Comcast).

107 posted on 07/15/2004 2:19:18 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Smartass; JulieRNR21
LOL ! And that looks exactly like what I imagined the person on the
other end of the phone looked like when I used to call AOL. haha !

108 posted on 07/15/2004 2:20:56 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: JulieRNR21
He claims that they had no idea it was saying negative responses about Bush until they got complaints. He said the robot was only supposed to make positive statements.

I just read your post more carefully, and my response to this claim is "?!"

Is he claiming the robot broke out of its programming and is able to form opinions and judgements on its own?!

AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!

Is the lead programmer's name Forbin?

Or is he claiming that his software engineers don't know what they're doing?

Or that he has a rogue programmer screwing around with the code?

I was actually starting to feel bad about filing my complaint and was thinking about looking into withdrawing it, but after rereading what you said he said, I think I'll just let the FEC process run its course.

109 posted on 07/15/2004 3:44:05 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: MeekOneGOP; JulieRNR21
I have COX Broadband, and it beats AOL and most servers.
I had AOL once...never again.


110 posted on 07/15/2004 7:38:01 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Mostly, he was complaining about the story and the reporter.

Here's what I understood from his comments on the program.

The robot was intended to give positive responses but so many said that they preferred Kerry over Bush...the robot began to make that response.

He said the program doesn't allow the robot to use bad words or suggest taking drugs, committing crimes, etc......anything like that is 'screened out'.

I would just let the complaint stand and let the FEC sort it all out.

IMHO From the beginning....the robot should have been prevented from making statements on any candidate in an election year. Apparently they changed it only after many complained.
111 posted on 07/15/2004 9:34:41 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: JulieRNR21
If the robot was intended to give only positive responses, they should have programmed it that way. Clearly it was programmed with the ability to give negative responses. But that's not the basis of my complaint, anyway.

The smoking gun, as far as my complaint is concerned, was the claim that the robot was "originally programmed to oppose Bush." If this is untrue--or even if it's Schmidt's word against the reporter's--then the FEC should, and undoubtedly will, throw out my complaint, even if the rest of the article is accurate. If it's just the robot equivalent of "Google-bombing," then there's no corporate expenditure involved.

And if I got suckered by CNS, then I will apologize for that. (Sigh. Are conservative news sources no more trustworthy than liberal ones?)

112 posted on 07/16/2004 5:17:20 AM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: kattracks

I called aol CS, and asked for a corporate number. That got me nowhere. So I looked up their Press contacts, which has a 703 number over East and got Communications. Now, I have belonged to aol with at least a screen name (let go of the full account long ago) since it began. I reported this Smarter Kid instant messanger situation and said I am not happy. I promised to influence everyone I know....which covers a lot of territory. I spoke to a young woman who wanted to know where I got the information and was indicating that she was interested in replicating the situation. Am not too hopeful, but I registered my voice.


113 posted on 07/16/2004 10:50:54 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots
Am not too hopeful, but I registered my voice.

Perhaps you should have registered your voice with the owners of the site instead of aol.

114 posted on 07/16/2004 12:08:07 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: combat_boots

See post #56......the CEO of 'Smarter Child' is the best one to call.


115 posted on 07/16/2004 12:48:03 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: mountaineer

"I made the mistake of signing up for AOL's 'free 45-day trial' in January, because I thought we could use it while on vacation. It's now July, and they still haven't complied with my several written and telephoned requests - all done as per their instructions - to terminate the account. AOL is evil, pure evil!"

Years ago I worked in the billing dept. for AOL (a call center--one of AOL's seven centers in the country at that time). I was shocked to learn the tactics they used on people...ignoring their requests to cancel. In my department we were SUPPOSED to transfer a cancellation request to the SALES dept. (where often they said they would cancel an account but really wouldn't). After I learned about this, I stopped transferring calls to Sales and would just cancel the account myself for the customer.

I can't tell you how many upset customers we talked to at that billing center. Like I said, I was shocked to hear their stories.

Your best route is to find a sympathetic customer service rep and ask them to please just cancel the account for you. (If they are playing AOL'S game, they will claim that they cannot cancel the account themselves.)


116 posted on 07/16/2004 8:38:01 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Hildy
I can't wait until he wins, and I hope he wins by a lot so we can put aside this notion of a split country, becuase that does NOTHING but hurt us.

Plus, it'll be all kinds of fun to watch their histrionics, their F911s, and their money come to nothing. Question: if a Bush win can even partially be traced back to F911, does F911 still win the Oscar? Or, is Michael Moore exiled to some corner of Liberal Hell?
117 posted on 07/17/2004 2:27:48 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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