Posted on 07/13/2004 12:24:49 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
Just saw Spidey 2. The film as I expected was laced with American flags through out as the first was, and some conservative little details unless I am imagining things, which is quite possible. Flags all over this movie. On Aunt Mays house, on MJs folks house. At the cemetary. At the end Spidy triumpantly swings over big ones hanging off the skyscrapers, a flag reflected in the window next to MJ in the final shot if your looking for it. Of course all the hero discriptives by Aunt May could be talking about our troops too. Ok, thats obvious, now tell me if Im crazy. The bum who turns in Spideys costume for money to Jamison looked like Michael Moore! Baseball cap, beard, fat. Trying to profit off a fallen hero. Something else, The touchy feely doctor who ends up talking Peter into giving up being spiderman by convincing him to deny what he is, was wearing a Grateful Dead T-Shirt, big symbol of the left there! Am I nuts?
GO SPIDEY!
Just read the title of the thread as I haven't seen Spidey 2 (yet). But I was highly impressed with the first movie because of its superbly conservative theme.
Can't have American flags and patriotic themes now. Can we?
LOL! Ridiculous.
Second, the core story (from the comic) is heavy on values, esp. responsibility; so the story lends itself to such imagery in the movie.
Those things are always done on purpose; even the smallest details in feature films are part of the scenery-set. Its never an accident.
Yes, absolutely. He was a greedy opportunist ready to make a buck, nothing more. With another 80lbs on him, he could have been Moore's stunt double.
As neat a jab as that was, the character in the movie that held me in total fascination was J. Jonah Jameson, the newspaper mogul. Biased sleaze personified. His hatred of Spiderman was based purely on his own personal opinion, which he made his newspaper mimic. He was completely honest and overt in being biased, and felt no shame about it whatsoever.
Until it turns out that he needed Spidey's help. He abruptly changed his tune, and then changed it back the second he could, without the slightest remorse.
It was the greatest caracature of the liberal media I've ever seen. EVER. It was like taking away all of Dan Rathers' carefully cultivated inhibitions, and seeing him speak his little leftist heart out.
Yes, that was a very clear message. The visual effect of the Grateful Dead shirt on a doctor in a hospital was sharp and symbolic, especially in light of how bad his advice was.
You could debate at length all the levels they're trying to speak on in that scene, but the message in a nutshell is this:
Smart people can give you a million good reasons not to do the right thing.
When Peter really needed some enouragement in facing his problems, instead he got offered an easy out. He chose to run away instead of dealing with things. He gave up.
The original trailer for Spiderman 1 had Spidey web a helecopter inbetween the twin towers of the World Trade Center. After 9/11 the scene had to be removed, and almost all of the CGI of New York had to be reworked so as not to show the World Trade Center. This took many months and cost millions of dollars. I'm sure this weighed heavily on everyone involved when they went to make the 2nd movie.
The comic book did have a heavy conservative element to it. The 1960's Marvel superheroes were different from other companies at the time in that having superpowers did not solve anyone's problems. Plus they fought lots of commies.
Steve Ditko, the original Spiderman artist who framed much of his personality, was a staunch proponent of Ayn Rand, so there's quite a bit of Howard Rourk and John Gault in Spidey.
While you're at it why don't you just help us all out a bit and go back to DU to talk those single-issue voters into shooting their collective wad on Nader.
Kind of new around here, or are you?
Same here. I don't give my money to hollyweird very often, but I did in this case and thoroughly enjoyed the movie. The special effects were beyond anything I have seen to date. I will own this movie on DVD, if only to get the extra's dvd and see how they did all the SE's...
Maybe it is no accident that Bonanza's Ben Cartwright (Lorne Greene) was the father of Sam Rami's wife, Gillian. Gillian's recently deceased mother, Nancy, was also a patriot.
According to fundrace.org, Director Sam Raimi has given $400 to the Bush campaign.
WooHoo! Great to hear. One on our side for a change!
Wow, that's a shocker (in a good way).
I was equally surprised and delighted. I'm sure if this gets out, though, his career would be over. I'm just so happy that one of my favorite directors actually has his head on straight!
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