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Bush official slammed for stopping illegals sweeps
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, July 13, 2004 | Ron Strom

Posted on 07/12/2004 10:51:41 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Border Patrol agents who executed highly popular roundups of illegal aliens in Southern California last month – the first of their kind in recent memory – say they've been told to stop such enforcement action, and the Bush administration official in charge of the immigration enforcement has refused to say if there would be additional sweeps in the future.

In an extraordinary radio interview Thursday on Los Angeles talk-radio station KFI, talk-show host John Kobylt grilled Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security Asa Hutchinson about why the roundups had been ended. The official, a former congressman who works under Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, attempted to defend the Bush administration record on immigration enforcement, but was repeatedly pressured by Kobylt to justify the canceling of the sweeps.

In early June, the Temecula Border Patrol station formed a special Mobile Patrol Group that conducted a series of illegal-alien sweeps in Norco, Corona and Escondido, Calif. The12-man group made more than 450 arrests as a result of the roundups.

Ron Zermeno, shop steward for the National Border Patrol Council at the Temecula station was frustrated with the decision to stop the sweeps.

"We don't know which way to turn. For once we were doing our job, what the government pays us to do," he told the North County Times.

After the roundups occurred, Latino activists protested at Border Patrol stations demanding an end to the sweeps.

Late last month, Hutchinson told members of Congress the raids were executed without the approval of higher-ranking officials, according to the Times report. While the sweeps were not illegal, they violated policy and the chain of command, Hutchinson said at the time.

In the radio interview, which lasted 22 minutes without any commercial breaks, Kobylt repeatedly confronted Hutchinson about when sweeps of illegal aliens would begin again.

While Hutchinson did not directly confirm that the sweeps had been stopped, he repeatedly stressed that future operations would have to be "coordinated" with other agencies. He told Kobylt while the priority of the Border Patrol is stopping the flow of aliens at the border, he also supports "interior enforcement" of immigration laws.

"Those 12 guys in Temecula rounded up 400 people in three days," Kobylt said. "Why not let them do what they're doing? They don't need to coordinate with anybody.

"They were doing fine, and the American taxpayers here in Southern California were thrilled beyond belief."

While Hutchinson argued the priority should be placing personnel at the border, Kobylt countered that California has 2 million illegal aliens who he says are a drain on the taxpayers of the state.

"It's $5 billion in tax money going down the hole every year to support these people," he told Hutchinson. "Why aren't you doing your job? Why do we still have tens of thousands of illegal aliens piling over the border every year?"

Kobylt charged Hutchinson with not neglecting the task of interior enforcement, pointing out the California roundups were big news stories because such action had not been taken "for years."

"When are the [round ups] going to start up again?" Kobylt asked Hutchinson.

"I'm not going to announce that on the radio," responded the official, who appeared riled by Kobylt's direct and persistent questioning. "You can expect interior enforcement actions in the future."

Kobylt accused Hutchinson of bowing to political pressure from immigrant-rights groups. He slammed the official for not confirming that the roundups would continue.

Said Kobylt after one of Huthinson's responses: "That's gobbledy-gook."

The host continued to pound on the roundup issue, but did not get the "yes or no" answer he was looking for.

"Yes or no, are you going to restart the border sweeps?" Kobylt pressed.

Responded Hutchinson: "We're going to continue the enforcement operations. They'll be coordinated between the Border Patrol and the ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] agents. And that's the commitment that we make."

The talk-show host also pressed Hutchinson on the lack of enforcement action against employers in Southern California who hire illegal aliens.

"We have never seen a single company executive indicted for employing illegal aliens in this state," Kobylt said, who told Hutchinson he was "tap dancing" around his pointed questions.

"We have an enormous illegal-alien problem here in Southern California, and we are getting zero help from the federal government," Kobylt said.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., a long-time advocate of tough immigration enforcement talked to Kobylt and co-host Ken Chiampou yesterday about the interview.

Kobylt encouraged Tancredo to read part of the interview on the floor of the House of Representatives.

"Well, that's an idea," Tancredo said. "I will talk about this on the House floor and I will try to figure out a way to interweave that."

Said Kobylt: "We don't want this Hutchinson thing to die. …

"I don't care if [Hutchinson's] a nice guy or not. I don't care if he gives mouth-to-mouth to dying dogs. It doesn't matter to me. Is he going to do the job on something that is extremely important that three-quarters of the state wants enforced?"

Zermeno said the halt in sweeps stems from pressure from Latino-rights activists and others.

"It's a few activists that are screaming for us to stop doing our job, and they are the ones getting Hutchinson's ear. It's very frustrating," Zermeno told the Times.

The KFI talkers have urged listeners to contact Hutchinson's office about the issue. The following message appears on the show's website:

Trey Bohn is the director of Radio, Office of Media Affairs, for the White House, and he wants you to stop e-mailing Asa Hutchinson, undersecretary for the Department of Homeland Security. Trey wants you to use a generic e-mail address, where you letters may or may not be seen. If you get a chance, why not give Trey a call and remind him who pays his salary. Call Trey at (202) 456-3851. Joseph Farah, WND editor and host of radio program "WorldNetDaily RadioActive," will play the interview on his show today. The program runs from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m. Eastern.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; asahutchinson; baca; boxer; bushamnesty; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: wasnova
The truth is that mass sweeps could have immediate and significant negative effects on the economy of S. Cal.

It's hard to believe that the economy in any part of the country would be negatively impacted for very long by enforcing border law, and also doing everything possible to not use foreign labor, illegal or illegal, and sending everyone possible home.

For starters, think of all of the money being wasted on education, health, and other social services for this "cheap labor" (it's not cheap labor, it's government-subsidized labor). What about the negative impact on the environment? What about the destruction of our language and culture?

If cheap labor is so necessary, employers should look to busing in from indian reservations and inner cities. Another great source of workers for years to come is retiring baby boomers...you'd be amazed at how many of us love doing things like cooking, housework, gardening, laundry, walking pets...no benefits needed, no language barrier, able to multi-task.

Fact is, the Dems want the votes and the 'pubs want the business and "cheap" labor for the economy. And the voters want, well, screw the voters, heck, maybe we just won't have an election.

I know I'm preaching to the faithful here, but those of us who are disgusted need to put in our two cents every now and then so the major parties don't think we're mellowing on this issue.

21 posted on 07/13/2004 2:57:38 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: truthkeeper

ping


22 posted on 07/13/2004 5:28:11 AM PDT by novacation
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To: Dane

Ahahahahaha!


23 posted on 07/13/2004 5:34:55 AM PDT by novacation
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To: wasnova

Hopefully one who puts principle above his own political gain. Oh wait, there aren't many of those people in politics. Sigh.


24 posted on 07/13/2004 5:54:12 AM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: JohnHuang2
This is a bad time for this to happen. Its about three years too late. Bush should have made an effort to stem the tide of illegals the minute he took office. Instead he has himself and the entire country in a terrible mess.

Kerry is using 3 million dollars to pander to the illegals, so they will vote for him.

For years, I have said this day is coming, where illegals will take over the vote. I am the enemy here for posting it, and nobody speaks to me because of it. Amazing.

25 posted on 07/13/2004 6:22:22 AM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: BurbankKarl

I want to know why they started with the average mopes at the Home Depots? So they could get plenty of sob stories of poor Manuel working for pennies to feed his 12 children and two "wives" or what? They need to take after those bald head gangbangers and then watch the popularity of sweeps soar, but then again the boys at the CFR would get nervous about watching the NWO crumble.


26 posted on 07/13/2004 6:33:17 AM PDT by junta
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To: janetgreen

And just what will Kerry do about this? Last time he said anything about this issue he was for giving them all citizenship. Sounds like you do have a choice. Bush who is trying to do something, even if you don't agree with it, or Kerry who is going to give them all a free pass and a couple years later give all the new ones citizenship too. Don't vote and let Kerry win then see what you get. Willing to take that chance?


27 posted on 07/13/2004 6:33:27 AM PDT by zanarchist
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To: JohnHuang2

Maybe the activists should be grabbed first and deported?


29 posted on 07/13/2004 6:38:39 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: swampfox98
We may as well put up a sign at the border:

Come one, come all.
Bring on the felons.
Bring on the terrorists.
Bring on the welfare cheats.
We'll take 'em all.


At a certain point, you realize that your elected officials just talk about the rule of law. They don't actually enforce it even on the most basic security issues.

Al-Qaeda could walk across the 'border' carrying a couple of nukes in broad daylight. What would stop them? Nothing.
30 posted on 07/13/2004 6:41:38 AM PDT by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Maybe the activists should be grabbed first and deported?

I'm beginning to think it's more likely they'll start grabbing any natural citizen who complains about the crime and tax costs and just deport them instead of the illegals.
31 posted on 07/13/2004 6:46:26 AM PDT by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: zanarchist

"And just what will Kerry do about this? Last time he said anything about this issue he was for giving them all citizenship. Sounds like you do have a choice. Bush who is trying to do something, even if you don't agree with it, or Kerry who is going to give them all a free pass and a couple years later give all the new ones citizenship too. Don't vote and let Kerry win then see what you get. Willing to take that chance?"

Umm, just "what" exactly, is Bush doing?

I see zero difference between what he's doing and what Kerry says HE will do.

Note that I said I SEE no difference. I don't want to hear about what Bush says he will do, I want to see what he HAS done.


32 posted on 07/13/2004 6:52:17 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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To: George W. Bush

Given that no agency, law, or government entity has not eventually been used to abuse native born citizens, I cannot argue with you.


33 posted on 07/13/2004 6:55:45 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: JohnHuang2

"The official, a former congressman who works under Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, attempted to defend the Bush administration record on immigration enforcement, but was repeatedly pressured by Kobylt to justify the canceling of the sweeps."

IF we had a sane alternative party running against Bush, they would kill him on this issue. But we don't. The Dems are as bad or even worse.

Somebody should bring a class action suti against the Bush Administration for failure to carry out one of its primary Constitutional responsibilities - protection of our borders.

Bush's record on illegal invaders is as bad as a Democrat's. So is his genuflecting to the Mexicans and their commander in chief Vicente Fox.


34 posted on 07/13/2004 7:18:52 AM PDT by ZULU (Democrats = Evil; Republicans = Stupid)
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To: ZULU
Somebody should bring a class action suti against the Bush Administration for failure to carry out one of its primary Constitutional responsibilities - protection of our borders.

That whole 'Homeland Security' thing doesn't mean much if the word 'borders' has been redefined to mean nothing.

Bush's record on illegal invaders is as bad as a Democrat's.

Well, pretty comparable anyway. Given the supposed GOP focus on security issues, I'd say it is more important to GOP voters and swing voters and those in the Southwest and CA than most anything you might name. Not to mention legal Hispanic immigrant citizens like some of those that I know personally.

There's nothing at all to stop Castro or Al-Qaeda from sending a veritable terrorist army over that border over the course of a few weeks. Who would even know until it was too late?

Congress has the laws on the books. But the executive branch is the one who chooses to enforce or not to enfore "the sacred rule of law". Whatever that phrase means these days...
35 posted on 07/13/2004 7:31:58 AM PDT by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: Dane
Joe Baca is the person who got the ball rolling tp stop the sweeps

Joe Baca doesn't have the authority. The Bush administration does.

36 posted on 07/13/2004 7:39:20 AM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: JohnHuang2
Asa Hutchinson is a weenie from Arkansas.
Why won't the Bush administration give us a strong manager from a BORDER STATE that actually understands the issue instead of a clown operating on theory?

Because George W. Bush, much as I like him, has always been soft on illegal immigration.

So9

37 posted on 07/13/2004 7:42:08 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: zanarchist
Don't vote and let Kerry win then see what you get. Willing to take that chance?

Sure, I'm willing because my life will change way less drastic than the ones voted out of office...

The question should be, are THEY willing to take that chance. Their lives will have a drastic change AND they'll have to live with a Kerry win.

38 posted on 07/13/2004 7:50:39 AM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: George W. Bush

George W. Bush I am shocked to see you say such a thing :-)


39 posted on 07/13/2004 7:51:08 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties
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To: swampfox98

"I have said this day is coming, where illegals will take over the vote. I am the enemy here for posting it, and nobody speaks to me because of it." swampfox

"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
-- Mark Twain


40 posted on 07/13/2004 7:56:48 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties
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