Posted on 07/09/2004 9:50:27 AM PDT by mandingo republican
Did anyone here this. Incredible and a breath of fresh air! There was a group of cute Christian girls outside the Fox studios waving signs that said "Jesus Love You!"
When the segment went inside to continue the news, Brian Kilmeade said something to the extent that it is great to hear that JESUS loves you.
This would of never happened on the commie networks. Can you imagine a Baal worshipping abortion rights loving Katie Kouric saying something like this on the Today Show?
That Katie is a Baal worshipping abortion supporter?
Yeah, I can imagine that...
Yep, ya gotta love Fox News. Finally some news that missed the DNC filtering process.
Brian also made a remark about females and 'consuming'. It got some frowns. The remark in context was innocent, but out of context wasn't.
[He had made similar comments previously that were 'off-color'.]
Not Baal.......Molech........
When the two women hostages were rescued in Afghanistan,
Laurie Dhue said, "Praise the Lord!" as they were going
to commercial.
My admiration of her was raised considerably. ;o)
Anyone who says Jesus loves everyone does not know the Christ of the Bible and have swallowed the Arminian Free Will lie of self worship.
Ps 5:5, (KJV), The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity
Rom 9:13, (KJV), As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Mal 1:3, (KJV), And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Jn 17:9, (KJV), I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Mat 7:23, "I never knew (loved) you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity...”
Ps 92:6-7, (KJV), A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this. (7) When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:
John 14:21, "... he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him ..." Verse 23, "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him ..."
Big red stickers plastered over every thing from Bibles to bumpers announcing "Jesus loves you." A prominent preacher promises the millions in his television audience regularly, "something good is going to happen to you this very day."
A pastor instructs his staff to answer the telephone with "Good morning, Jesus loves you."
An evangelistic tract begins with, "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life."
The electronic sign atop the state's denominational headquarters flashes repeatedly: "God is no respector of persons. God loves everybody."
With such an abundance of optimistic assertions of God's favor, one would be almost persuaded that God is more pleased with this wicked generation than any one that has previously lived. Certainly He has not made such declarations to anyone before. The heralds of this "gospel" will certainly find no precedent for it in the Bible. The sacred scripture never makes such promiscuous promises of God's love. His love is always carefully qualified.
John 14:21, "... he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him ..." Verse 23, "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him ..."
The Bible nowhere says that God loves all men alike. He loves certain persons. Isaiah 43:4, "Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee therefore I will give men for thee and people for thy life." Hebrews 12:6, "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth ... But if ye be without chastisement whereof all (sons) are partakers, then are ye bastards and not sons." It is here declared that God loves some and those whom he loves are sons and are partakers of chastisement. Those without are not sons and not loved.
The passage generally referred to as proof of God's love for all men is John 3:16, "For God so loved the world ..." But what world is John talking about here? Not the planet world of Acts 17:24. Not the Gentile-only world of Romans 11:12, since Jews excluded here will also be saved. Certainly not the wicked world of men of John 14:22 to which Jesus refused to reveal himself, or the rejected world of John 17:9 for which the Saviour would not pray.
The same Greek word, kosmos, is used in every one of these passages, and they all mean a different "world." What, then is the world that God loved and gave His Son for? Since it cannot be any of the above, it must mean the same world of John 3:17. The world that through Him should be saved. That is the world that God loves, and no other. It cannot mean all men indiscriminately, but those for whom Christ was given and who should be saved. All others are ruled out by the sober declarations of the scriptures.
So it also is with Romans 5:8, "God commendeth his love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." All men were yet in sins when Christ died, yet God seeing the finished work of the Saviour on behalf of those who should trust in him, loved us as already in His Son. It is us who believe upon Him toward whom He has commended His love.
So it is with II Peter 3:9 ... he is longsuffering to usward, not willing that any (of us) should perish. Christ is not delaying His coming in hopes that every one shall be saved. He declared that multitudes will go to hell. He is delaying His coming until all of us are saved. Are you one of the "us", dear friend, who shall trust in Christ, or will you be one of the millions who will tumble into hell?
We must go a step further. Not only does God not love all men: He hates some! Deuteronomy 32:19, "he abhorred them." Psalm 5:5, "thou hatest all the workers of iniquity." Psalm 11:5, "him that loveth violence, his soul hateth." Romans 9:12, "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." These passages have generally been shrugged off with the ignorant cliche, "God hates the sin but loves the sinner." A nice thought, but unscriptural and impossible. Unscriptural because the word declares that God hates the very person of the wicked. Impossible because sin is never found outside the sinner. Separate sin and sinner, and you have neither a sin to hate or a sinner to love. Sin always exists in a man. God even had to put our sin upon His Son before He could judge it. He put all the sins of His people upon Jesus Christ and poured out His full unmitigated wrath upon Him, the man, not just the sin.
No, my friend, if you are yet unrepentant in your selfish rebellion against God, His wrath is revealed from heaven against you.
He hates you.
He despises the sight of you.
He intends to put you in hell, and it is only His gracious longsuffering and forbearance that keeps you from the burning pit this very moment. He is not obliged to withhold His judgment another minute.
If you now, dear reader, have not been deluded into believing this foolish nonsense about God loving you in your sins, if you see that it is altogether reasonable for God's anger to burn hot against you, if you see yourself, as you indeed are, in imminent danger of everlasting damnation and confess that you deserve nothing better, there is something else God has to say to you.
There is a kind of sinner that He cannot despise, one whom He can indeed love without violating His holy character. "A broken and contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise" (Psalm 51:17). Read the 51st Psalm and see the deep repentance portrayed, the unsparing confession of guilt, the utter renunciation of self, the thorough disgust with wicked ways, and the earnest plea for mercy and cleansing from God. It is then, and then only, dear sinner, that you can know of God's love. Then you will not need some bright eyed religious huckster to tell you that God loves you; His love will be profusely shed abroad all over your soul by the blessed Holy Spirit; and you will never be able to cease singing the praises of a merciful God who receives repentant sinners.
You are correct; God loves his children, not everybody.
Otherwise he would be lying when he says he "hates all workers of iniquity" in an early Psalm...not sure which one exactly, but below 10.
However, God is still truly love even when he hates evildoers, as Scripture says in the NT that "God is love"....it is a paradox, but Scripture is full of such tensions for a reason. God is not a being we can fully understand.
I think it is pretty awesome for fox not to shun religion though.
God's word is not full of paradoxes. That sounds like Cornelius Van Til. God does not hate and love someone at the same time. That makes God the author of confusion and we know that is false. Further, if God loved the reprobate, He would have sent His son for them. Love is not an emotion, it's an action, and God is actively working against those He had no love for.
I have not really got involved in the Van Tilian debates, so I can't really comment on that, though you are right that God can't be the author of confusion.
I do agree that Christ died for the elect only.
I have never read something so sick in my life. I am not a National Council of Churches commie but God does love and Jesus does love you and everyone - I don't care what anyone says.
Could you please reference where the Bible says that Jesus intends to laugh at the damned? Thanks.
Ps 37:13, (KJV), The LORD shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
Prov 1:26, (KJV), I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
My question for you is do you want to be saved by a Sovereign God that loves only His elect? Do you want to be saved by a Christ that came to live and die only for His people?
Do you want to worship the God who has appointed some to death and others to life?
If not, it reveals your hatred for GOD. If so, fly to Him to be reconciled.
Rom 9:18-19, (NKJV), Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. (19) You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?"
Rom 9:22-23, (NKJV), What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, (23) and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory,
1 Thess 5:9, (KJV), For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Pet 2:8, (KJV), And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
Prov 16:4, (NKJV), The LORD has made all things for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
Jude 1:4, (KJV), For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Ps 135:6, (NKJV), Whatever the LORD pleases He does, In heaven and in earth, In the seas and in all deep places.
Job 23:13, (NKJV), "But He is unique, and who can make Him change? And whatever His soul desires, that He does.
Isa 45:7, (KJV), I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Thanks. I wasn't thinking of OT references, and couldn't bring to mind anytime in the NT that suggests Jesus would laugh at the day of judgement.
Regarding the references you made - the one in Proverbs is "Wisdom" laughing. And the other
"The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth. The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming."
Most translations say that the Lord laughs, not the Lord will laugh. And besides that, contextually, it seems to me he's laughing at their foolishness in this present life, not in the future as they suffer damnation.
Somehow, I don't think that John 3:16 allows for your interpretation.
Never put any stock in anyone who posts scripture (especially bunches of them!) on FR.
Jesus hates the little children,
99.9% of the children of the world!
Red and yellow, black and white,
Those He hasn't arbitarily predestined are horrid in His sight.
Jesus hates the little children of the world!
Pardon me. I'm currently experiencing sarcasm overload after trying to wade through Gill's tripe.
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