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Senate Intelligence Report LIVE Thread
CNN and Cable news ^ | July 9, 2004

Posted on 07/09/2004 7:59:17 AM PDT by TomGuy

Going on now. Roberts spoke, blamed CIA and intelligence agencies. Rockerfeller speaking, blames intelligence agencies and administration and (some) to the Congress.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: intelcommittee; intelreport; prewarintelligence
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Sen. Pat Roberts (R) said that one of the exaggerated parts of the NIE of Oct 2002 was that Iraq was developing UAVs.

Here's what David Kay's report in Oct 2003 said about UAVs:

Iraq was continuing to develop a variety of UAV platforms and maintained two UAV programs that were working in parallel, one at Ibn Fernas and one at al-Rashid Air Force Base. Ibn Fernas worked on the development of smaller, more traditional types of UAVs in addition to the conversion of manned aircraft into UAVs. This program was not declared to the UN until the 2002 CAFCD in which Iraq declared the RPV-20, RPV-30 and Pigeon RPV systems to the UN. All these systems had declared ranges of less than 150km. Several Iraqi officials stated that the RPV-20 flew over 500km on autopilot in 2002, contradicting Iraq's declaration on the system's range. The al-Rashid group was developing a competing line of UAVs. This program was never fully declared to the UN and is the subject of on-going work by ISG. Additional work is also focusing on the payloads and intended use for these UAVs. Surveillance and use as decoys are uses mentioned by some of those interviewed. Given Iraq's interest before the Gulf War in attempting to convert a MIG-21 into an unmanned aerial vehicle to carry spray tanks capable of dispensing chemical or biological agents, attention is being paid to whether any of the newer generation of UAVs were intended to have a similar purpose. This remains an open question.

ISG has discovered evidence of two primary cruise missile programs. The first appears to have been successfully implemented, whereas the second had not yet reached maturity at the time of OIF.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/2003/david_kay_10022003.html

101 posted on 07/09/2004 8:49:06 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: Solson

From your lips to Gods ears. These idiot dems scare me to death. They are insane.


102 posted on 07/09/2004 8:49:33 AM PDT by Lovergirl (Her name is Terri Schindler and she's alive. www.terrisfight.org)
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These morons apparently don't understand the difference between Type I and Type II errors.


103 posted on 07/09/2004 8:49:56 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: TomGuy

I hate the fact that a fellow Republican can't see the the weapons right in front of him and for this reason I will vote against Roberts at all cost! Of course for another Republican. Rocket Engines, old but still useful shells, aluminum tubes, "Pestiside" planes, Uranium from Iraq, etc...What part of Threat don't these clowns understand?


104 posted on 07/09/2004 8:50:27 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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To: TomGuy; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin

KIT BOND up now on Senate Floor setting things straight.................


105 posted on 07/09/2004 8:51:20 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: go-ken-go

That someone on Fox was Democrat Tim Roemer. I believe that he is on the 911 Commission, and I'm sure that he can't wait for all of these reports to come out! From what I've seen of his questioning on the committee, he is nothing more than a dirty partisan Democrat who has no other interest than seeing his fraud of a party take back the White House.


106 posted on 07/09/2004 8:51:53 AM PDT by fox0566
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To: tobyhill

Roberts is bad, Lugar is bad, Hagel is bad, McCain has been very bad, but I give him credit for supporting Bush in this important cause. It's too easy for some to go to the dark side.


107 posted on 07/09/2004 8:52:38 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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To: OXENinFLA

Yeah, I caught the last couple minutes of Leaky just now as I got back from the paint store(this job will never end, Dad keeps adding on more! ;-)


108 posted on 07/09/2004 8:53:03 AM PDT by StriperSniper ("Ronald Reagan, the Founding Father of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy." - Mark Levin 6/8/04)
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To: george wythe

"Rockefeller: I'm saddened this report only addressed the CIA role in this matter. I want to blame the President for CIA fiasco; more importantly, I want to write a report blaming Bush for forcing the CIA to give us flawed intelligence."

And I want to blame Bill Clinton for cutting our intelligence and military.

And I want to blame John Kerry, who as president will cut CIA funding even further.


109 posted on 07/09/2004 8:53:18 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Hitler? Stalin? The left has a tough decision as to who they would rather emulate.)
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To: TomGuy
Problem is that it is clear that the intelligence was CORRECT.

This report is ludicrous.

110 posted on 07/09/2004 8:53:32 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: bushfamfan

If the dark side means the truth that everyone knows then I'm there!


111 posted on 07/09/2004 8:54:20 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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To: OXENinFLA
My take on the way the hearings were probably allowed to evolve by the Pubbles...

The Dem were allowed to isolate the weakest of several intel sources for a given event and discredit it. They were allowed to proceed as if the discredited source was the only source thus further attempting to discredit any action taken based on what they claim is the only source. Pretty close to setting up and knocking down straw men.

Pubbies remain the stupid party.

112 posted on 07/09/2004 8:55:02 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: SLB
And our nuclear weapons dating back decades are not harmful either?

Who is going to answer these idiots?

113 posted on 07/09/2004 8:55:27 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1

BOND QUOTING "THE MEMO"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


114 posted on 07/09/2004 8:55:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
KIT BOND up now on Senate Floor setting things straight.................

He is reading from the memo from the Democratic staffer.

115 posted on 07/09/2004 8:56:30 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: sure_fine
"I can not understand why the repubs don't take atleast a defense instead of just rolling with the punch after punch after punch..."

The reason is because of poll numbers. None of this is hurting Bush, so the question becomes "why risk making a mistake if your opponents aren't doing any damage?"

Sure, it looks bad on television. It doesn't look bad in reality.

116 posted on 07/09/2004 8:56:42 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: TomGuy

GWB is going to regret more and more that he did not clean house and appoint his own to every possible position when he first took office.

The Clintonites are entrenched and are helping defeat GWB from within.


117 posted on 07/09/2004 8:56:49 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: OXENinFLA

What did Bond say???


118 posted on 07/09/2004 8:59:14 AM PDT by Howlin (I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country. ~~John Edwards, CNN, 2/24/02)
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John Cornyn up:

Let's talk about this marriage amendment. ;-)


119 posted on 07/09/2004 9:00:19 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: All

John Cornyn up:

Let's talk about this marriage amendment. ;-)


120 posted on 07/09/2004 9:00:21 AM PDT by Smogger
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