Posted on 07/04/2004 9:57:06 PM PDT by Gracey
Personally, I was appalled upon hearing these words at our Texas State Convention, spoken by the Texas Republican party leadership. Is it any wonder that some call these folk, the "Taliban wing of the party?"
I'm not bothered. Jesus was a Jew. So its one party under God, I can square it with my own beliefs.
Shouldn't it have been addressed as a Judea-Christian nation?
Uhh, convert?
Israel has no better friend that President Bush. ..Sharon
But what does the Sharon (Israel) Bush relationship have to do with the RPT and the comment mentioned?
This is causing a problem. The country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles but is a secular state. If Turkey and Iraq and France and India can be secular states, so can we. Really, sometimes some Rs are so provincial.
Correct me if I'm wrong but right now I think I'm right.
You can't even mention Jesus to a Muslim in Saudi. Look at all the missionaries who have lost their lives from teaching the gospel. I thank God this is a Christian nation and our friend of the Jewish faith should be also.
If I went to Israel and started complaining because Israel was a Jewish Nation, how long would I be welcome to stay there. In a Muslim country I would probably be headless.
I totally understand where you're coming from, but i don't think that statement was necessarily was an exclusion of other religious denominations. Jews constitute 2% of the US population, and while they're great Americans and a great part of our country, why not also recognize all the other religious groups if we're going to recognize Judaism?
For now, i think it's important to emphasize US as a Christian Nation. <--period
Oh sure. That's what they all say.
Yes, you are wrong.
It is a free nation, where people are free to practice whetever religious beliefs they follow or to not practice any at all, as long as these beliefs do not include denying others the same priviledge.
By claiming this a Christian nation, you relegate all other beliefs to a guest status in your nation, which is simply not true.
Every American has the exact same right as any other American, so you may not claim the nation "yours" because you are a Christian, and American Jews have the exact same claim to the nation as you do.
Oy vey!
[...trying to figure out whether I'll get in trouble for posting the lyrics to Kinky Friedman's "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore"]
The last thing on earth America needs is a theocratic government, and perhaps the best thing people are learning from the war on radical Islam is the inherent evil within theocracies.
"Shouldn't it have been addressed as a Judea-Christian nation?"
I'll drink to that. That's the theme of a book written by a Catholic (Michael Novak) that's
effusively praised by conservative Jewish commentator Dennis Prager.
On Two Wings: Humble Faith and Common Sense
at the American Founding
by Michael Novak
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893554686/qid=1089005141/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5847907-8671045?v=glance&s=books
As for the resolution, it's a sad case of mis-direction by the Texan Republicans.
While even some secular historians have said that the real father of the USA was
John Calvin...to just say that the USA is a Christian nation excludes a whole
other substative source of morals and philosophy that undergirds this republic.
Mr. Lieber's concerns are valid, but he needs to understand where these overstatements come from: They come from people who feel despised, and are despised, by the cultural elite. People who have sustained injury after injury at the hands of Democrats, legislators in the guise of judges, and ACLU extremists. A bit of rhetorical excess is to be expected from those who urgently need to assert their self-respect.
Mr. Lieber should look beyond these minor excesses to the far greater excesses of the left. He will not find a perfect political party. He must choose one or the other.
And his other option would be the Democrats: 'One Party Under Satan'.
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