Posted on 06/29/2004 6:01:46 AM PDT by Undertow
Since you offer no specifics, I cannot easily respond. What 'doesn't sound very libertarian'? What 'things'?
Dead end.
But politics seems about as bad. "First, we admitted that we were powerless over partisanship, and that our lives had become unmanageable."
"I may disagree with what you say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."
- Voltaire
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
- Thomas Paine
< Prepares for "conservatives" to tell me Scalia, Voltaire and Paine were pot smoking liberals who hate Bush >
Another one of those who is in favor of CFR, just as long as it's the liberals who are affected by it.
I thought you were more informed than that Badeye.
"The Constitution is on fire -- a fire that was set when Democrats and Republicans passed their so-called campaign finance reform law," says Badnarik, who was nominated by the party on May 30. "The attempt to gag Michael Moore demonstrates that McCain-Feingold was just an excuse to outlaw political criticism."
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is considering whether advertising for Moore's controversial new documentary, which is sharply critical of President Bush, can be banned as "electioneering communications." Under McCain-Feingold, corporate-paid radio or TV ads that identify a federal candidate are illegal to broadcast within 30 days of a primary or 60 days of a general election.
It is not my judgement. What I consider 'libertarian' is fact, taken from the LP web site by direct quotes or from statements by the Editor and the owner of the paper.
One does not have to be in favor of a law to insist that both sides obey the law. But then anarchism may be closer to your ideal.
"Another one of those who is in favor of CFR, just as long as it's the liberals who are affected by it.
I thought you were more informed than that Badeye."
You couldn't be more wrong.
Libertarians believe in self governance. Period. They also believe in allowing people to suffer the consequences of their actions and in punishing those who cause harm to others through direct action.
For the rest, start reading at "We the People,..."
"Another LP basher with limited reading comprehension skills."
Sorry, I don't feel the need to "bash" the Libertarian Party.....too easy, like baseball bats and baby seals.....
I think Moores movie does cross the line into a political "infomercial" and would like to see this played out in court.
Lets get a ruling from the bench, that is how the system is supposed to work, wouldn't you agree?
Well, at least you are a big enough person to admit when you are clueless. ;-)
Big difference is Moore is outright lying - would he get away with something similar in 1943 with our boys dying in foriegn countries?
Back to the idea of shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater is NOT free speech - it is a lie intended to bring physical harm to others.
In Moore's case his intent is to harm American service men just to bring Bush down - that's treasonous and should be stopped.
We are at war whether the left wants to acknowledge it or not.
Anything goes is NOT an American tradition.
If the system was working as it should, McCain-Feingolds CFR based censorship act would never have gotten passed as our legislators would have upheld thier oaths instead of passing it.
And if you wanted, you could file a lawsuite alledging slander. The CFR act would not be needed at all and would be an entirely supportable clause... even for the LP hardliners.
And it is perfectly defensable to shout "fire" in a crowded theater, if the theater is actually on fire.
What is going on here is an a priori attempt to silence political based dissent. This CAN, and more than likely will, be used against conservatives and libertarians alike.
Do you see the difference?
You guess wrong.
Now tell me how you think fat ass Moore should be shut up by law?
Hypocrites. They should stick to doing dope.
That really should be SOOOOO beneath you, but clearly it isn't. Long time posters need to hold themselves to a higher standard. Why not leave all the childish stuf to the children?
Remember, the liberal mantra is: do as I do and say as I say. Independent thinking is not allowed.
"Well, at least you are a big enough person to admit when you are clueless. ;-)"
Now you are just plain old fashioned "wrong".
The Libertarians, and the "party" if you can call it that, are "clueless". They've had the opportunity for over a decade now to change the political landscape....and at every opportune moment, they issue a press release like this one.
The only conclusion you can draw from the history of absurdities that spew from the Libertarian "leadership" is that they are in fact TERRIFIED they might actually win.
Its oh so much easier to remain in the stands, rather than actually walk onto the field of battle....
Being a Libertarian is easy.....since you never win an election, you can never be held responsible...and "responsibility" is something the Libbies run from whenever the heat gets to hot....or there is a glimmer they might actually be making inroads politically.
Check it out for yourself...and consider just how long the Libertarian Party has been in existence. Then ask yourself how it is a Ross Perot can come out of nowhere and garner 20% of the vote.....while the Libertarians think its a "good election" when they get 1% each time around or less.
While the libertarians congratulate each other on remaining "true" to the cause.....history continues to be made without any meaningful impact coming from them.
Show me somebody happy with perpetual third place finishes, or worse, and I'll show you a loser.
So you believe that only those laws that you believe are constitutional should be obeyed?
LOL, good one. The President signed it, what does his oath say? What a good Republican he was on that day.
Because he is violating the law. The time to think about these laws if BEFORE they are passed. Either change the law or learn to live with it
That really should be SOOOOO beneath you, but clearly it isn't
I see you have never been on a "WOD" thread. You should try it.
Gee...I can't believe I missed that.
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