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Democrats Tap Open Source (Linux)
Yahoo News ^ | June 28, 2004 | Peter Galli

Posted on 06/28/2004 9:48:52 AM PDT by Golden Eagle

Open source has expanded into the political world, with open software powering the online operations of the Democratic National Committee and Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign.

The DNC has embraced open source to run its online operation, including outreach and fund raising, and has been working on this front since 2001 with New York-based consultant Plus Three LP.

This week, the DNC will launch, at www.democrats.org, the third version of its Web site, which is designed to mobilize voters on a national and grass-roots level, grow the party's online database, and raise funds, said David Brunton, Plus Three's vice president and co-founder.

Plus Three's Arcos technology, a business application suite based on the open-source LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and Perl) platform, lies at the core of the Democrats' online technology infrastructure, dubbed Demzilla by the DNC.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; apple; ibm; linux; microsoft; opensource; oss; windows
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To: antiRepublicrat
advanced cameras...

A pathetic stretch to try to defend your precious Red Flag Linux program that is being used to build supercomputers based off free copies of Red Hat.

101 posted on 06/29/2004 9:48:39 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I can only guess what motivates you people to do such.

I know what motivates Linux, it's better software. I know what motivates you, it's corporate profits. As you said, you have no problem giving 100% US-made advanced technology to China as long as US corporations make a profit off of it. We know you don't care if the Chinese actually get the technology, because you find corporate sales to be just fine. What you don't like is free software, which the Chinese like everyone else can download and use, although to make a Linux supercomputer cluster, you need a LOT more technology and expertise than just the free Linux OS. I wonder who sold China the switches to make this supercomputer possible (but that's okay because a US company probably sold them). Who set it up? What processors? Intel or AMD (still okay with you)? Their own maybe, built off the technology that Neil Bush greased the rails for China to get from us?

102 posted on 06/29/2004 9:57:16 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: kevkrom
using it for their own internal purposes

Shouldn't that be using it for their own infernal purposes?

103 posted on 06/29/2004 10:04:10 AM PDT by vollmond (DS2 CV-66 83-87)
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To: antiRepublicrat
As you said, you have no problem giving 100% US-made advanced technology to China as long as US corporations make a profit off of it.

Now you're lying and putting words in my mouth you know aren't true.

I've made it repeatedly clear I don't think any US companies should be building up China's tech infrastructure at all. I think we should treat them just as we did the former USSR, and if you were too young to remember, US tech companies weren't outfitting the Kremlin, especially not for free.

to make a Linux supercomputer cluster, you need a LOT more technology and expertise than just the free Linux OS.

So what, are you saying that justifies giving them one of the basic building blocks for free? Sure looks like it.

Make no mistake, without Linux and the improvements to it given to them for free, China wouldn't be on that Top 10 supercomputer list, yet there they are as of today.

104 posted on 06/29/2004 10:11:05 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

The plants to make such circuitry can easily be modified to make the circuitry for guidance systems and the like - so that those linux-powered missles can hit you.


105 posted on 06/29/2004 10:14:57 AM PDT by Salo
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To: Salo
The plants to make such circuitry can easily be modified to make the circuitry for guidance systems and the like - so that those linux-powered missles can hit you.

BS. You apparently don't know much about "television trackers", something I do. Hint - they have nothing to do with internal TV circuitry, and actually provide the required Az El Range data based on computer analysis of something as simple as standard NTSC video output. Analysis done on Linux systems, Red Flag being the official O/S of the PRC, handed to them for free.

106 posted on 06/29/2004 10:28:03 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I do know something about electrical/electronic circuitry - (former Dept Of Navy nuke elec). If you can make the boards for one type of circuit, or chips, you can build what you need easily. If they have the plants to build circuit boards and the like, they can make what they need for military purposes. Of course, Intel, motorola and others might just sell them whatever they need, but they will have the capacity to make their own.
107 posted on 06/29/2004 11:06:57 AM PDT by Salo
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To: Golden Eagle
I've made it repeatedly clear I don't think any US companies should be building up China's tech infrastructure at all.

Ahem, "Use Apple, use any version of Unix, there's plenty of non-Linux alternatives available for the non-Microsoft buyer, all of which originated in the US, bring dollars back into this country, and can't be legally renamed "Chinese Red Flag"."

"For free" always seems to be your problem. And make no mistake, without us selling them switches and servers, they wouldn't be on that list either, but I don't see you complaining about those.

108 posted on 06/29/2004 11:15:02 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Salo
. Of course, Intel, motorola and others might just sell them whatever they need, but they will have the capacity to make their own.

Especially since the President's brother got them the chipmaking equipment they need. It seems these days almost everything in computers is dual-purpose. I remember a while ago talk about the viability of building a supercomputing cluster out of Sony PlayStation 2s.

109 posted on 06/29/2004 11:17:40 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Point is the RATS don't want to pay for software.

Even Rats aren't stupid enough to pay for something when they can legally get it (or its equivalent) free.

110 posted on 06/29/2004 11:28:50 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: xrp
"If you use open source, then you are in alliance with the Democrats!"

Guilty has charged. But.....I embed anti dem sayings in my code. So I make up for it. I wonder if my clients ever see that stuff?
111 posted on 06/29/2004 11:28:59 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: Petronski

Another analogy is that using MS LookOut without changing the defaults and adding third-party security measures is like participating in a bareback orgy in a gay Haitian bathouse.


112 posted on 06/29/2004 11:32:52 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: steve-b

All I can say is "wow."


113 posted on 06/29/2004 11:34:57 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm **NOT** always **CRANKY**.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Worldwide, do you agree with US software improvements being given away to the rest of the world for free?

Microsoft opens Windows source to China

114 posted on 06/29/2004 11:35:50 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: steve-b

Is that too long for a sig?


115 posted on 06/29/2004 11:46:57 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Salo
If you can make the boards for one type of circuit, or chips, you can build what you need easily.

Theorhetically, perhaps. Still MS helping with APEX televisions is in no way comparable in defense related terms to China getting free software that pushes their supercomputers into the top 10. And to argue it does is absurd.

116 posted on 06/29/2004 3:23:20 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat
"For free" always seems to be your problem.

And it is a problem, to anyone with a brain. What else should we be giving them for free? Don't hold back.

117 posted on 06/29/2004 3:25:28 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: steve-b
Microsoft opens Windows source to China

Allowed them to see it, not rename it "Red Flag" and resell it all over Asia with no return revenue to the US. All done in response to Linux, else it would have never happened. Not that you can equate the two anyway, or don't you know "shared source" does not equal "open source"? You should. We hear it all the time.

Why Shared Source is not Open Source

118 posted on 06/29/2004 3:30:06 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat
building a supercomputing cluster out of Sony PlayStation 2s.

But it takes Linux to do that, right? So we should be pumping up this code and giving it away to all takers for free?

119 posted on 06/29/2004 3:52:08 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
What else should we be giving them for free?

All the copies of the US Constitution they care to make, to start with.

120 posted on 06/29/2004 3:55:16 PM PDT by tacticalogic (I Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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