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Last night I snuck in to F911 (didn't want to give Moore $10) (and all I got was this lousy ZOT!!!)

Posted on 06/26/2004 6:55:50 AM PDT by cubrepub

Thought half of it was BS -- vague implications with no follow through. But the stuff about corporate links to the war, the Afgan pipeline, connections with the Saudis really caught me off guard. I got home and searched for info to debunk everything and only found info that supported Moore's claims. Also, I live in NYC and the "keep them afraid and people will do anything" hit a bit too close to home. Anyone else see it? Anyone else have questions and doubts? I'm not some DUer planting seeds, I'm just wondering how others are incorporating some of F911's info into their beliefs.


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To: JoeSixPack1
I love troll zot MM eat bush cry me a river can't find evidence please don't hurt me DU not here innocent bystander botox eye brows tear-aye-za lurch rang BS hang the laundry BahBah here me talk over you I have medals you don't why the long face she who is to be obeyed lives under ft. mercy park swallow this cigar oooh ahhh knee pads cool-aid threads more than peanut butter & Beer!

Looks more like JoeTwelvePack to me! :^)

81 posted on 06/26/2004 8:00:32 AM PDT by OSHA (Moose are big, dangerous, funny looking creatures with a silly name. Hey! They could be Freepers!)
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To: TigersEye
LOL!

They retrofitted the opium pipeline to to allow for oil?

82 posted on 06/26/2004 8:02:48 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: beyond the sea
"Have you ever noticed those Arab kids are always throwing stones..... RIGHT HANDED???? There are no lefties."

I hadnt noticed that, always looking at their waist for bomb belts.

83 posted on 06/26/2004 8:04:45 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States

Haliburton Corporation subsidies companies Kellog, Brown, and Root.

KBR has built the Pentagon and has won many defense related contracts for over 60 years.

That pipeline through Afghanistan has only intrest from one company, a japanese one. The Japanese company turned down the contract.


84 posted on 06/26/2004 8:06:36 AM PDT by Mustangcountry (Is it just me or is David Brock lying about his previous truths?)
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To: OSHA

working on it


85 posted on 06/26/2004 8:07:44 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: cubrepub

cubrepub= This account has been banned or suspended.


86 posted on 06/26/2004 8:09:25 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: sam_paine
"...but won't ask a single question about Waco, Ron Brown, etc...."

Get the book that revealed the true story: "Bitter Legacy: NewsMax reveals the untold story of the Clinton-Gore Years" by Chris Ruddy and Carl Limbacher 

Clinton Sabotages Democrat Senate Nominee
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Kerry: Clinton Book Hurting My Campaign
Friday, June 25, 2004 1:39 p.m. EDT

Monica Blasts Bill as Lying Creep
Friday, June 25, 2004 8:56 a.m. EDT

Clinton: CIA Nixed My Plans to Get Bin Laden
Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:17 a.m. EDT

Clinton: No Iraq Link to Al Qaida
Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:57 a.m. EDT

Gennifer Flowers: Clinton a 'National Disgrace'
Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:02 p.m. EDT

Paula Jones Challenges Clinton to Debate
Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:27 a.m. EDT

Clinton: Monica Truth Would Have Ended My Presidency
Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:07 a.m. EDT

BBC Excerpts Clinton's Rage
Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:01 a.m. EDT

CBS Airs New Footage of Clinton Denying Bin Laden Offer
Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:13 a.m. EDT

Critics Are Bored, but Booksellers Still Buzzed by Clinton Book
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Tuesday, June 22, 2004

Reagan Trounces Clinton
Monday, June 21, 2004

Kerry to Return Cash From Arrested Korean
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Clinton: No Evidence I Passed up Bin Laden Offer
Sunday, June 20, 2004 8:10 p.m. EDT

Clinton Book Review: 'Sloppy, Self-indulgent and Often Eye-crossingly Dull' 
Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:09 p.m. EDT

N.Y. Times Buys Clinton Review Copy at Bookstore
Saturday, June 19, 2004 4:02 p.m. EDT

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Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:50 p.m. EDT

Clinton in Interview Meltdown over Contrition Credibility
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Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:40 a.m. EDT

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Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:10 a.m. EDT

Clinton Offers Faint Praise for Kerry
Friday, June 18, 2004 10:10 a.m. EDT

Clinton Offers Faint Praise for Kerry
Friday, June 18, 2004 10:10 a.m. EDT

'60 Minutes': Dan Rather Misquoted Clinton on Bin Laden
Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:48 p.m. EDT

Annan Opposes 'War Crimes' Exemption for U.S.
NewsMax.com Wires
Thursday, June 17, 2004

Clinton: Claims I Turned Down Bin Laden are 'Bull'
Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:50 a.m. EDT

Rather: Clinton Didn't Come Clean in Book
Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:10 p.m. EDT

9/11 Report: 10-Plane Attack Was Planned
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, June 16, 2004

9/11 Panel Finds No Link Between al-Qaida and Iraq
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, June 16, 2004

Conservatives Irked Over Bush-Clinton Lovefest
Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:14 p.m. EDT

9/11 Commission to Question Air Defense Cutbacks
Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:18 a.m. EDT

Clinton to Co-opt Kerry Campaign for Book Tour
Monday, June 14, 2004 1:10 p.m. EDT

Court Rejects Barr's Suit Against Clinton, Carville, Flynt
NewsMax.com Wires
Monday, June 14, 2004

Bill Clinton's Book Outpaces Hillary's
Saturday, June 12, 2004 2:07 p.m. EDT

Reagan Death Crowds Clinton Book Hype
Saturday, June 12, 2004 2:11 p.m. EDT

Libs New Tack: Blame Reagan for Bin Laden
Wednesday, June 9, 2004 2:27 p.m. EDT

Reagan's Final Fiery Speech: Clinton Stole Our Ideas
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, June 9, 2004

9/11 Commission's Final Report Slams FBI and CIA
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, June 9, 2004

Clinton to Do Call-in Radio for Book 
Tuesday, June 8, 2004 10:17 a.m. EDT

Gen. Haig: CIA Seduced by Technology and Hobbled by Congress
Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com
Saturday, June 5, 2004

Clinton Promises Book Won't Settle Scores Before Attacking Starr, Gingrich
Friday, June 4, 2004 12:56 a.m. EDT

Bush Accepts CIA Director Tenet's Resignation
NewsMax.com Wires
Thursday, June 3, 2004

U.N. Says al-Qaida Terrorists Hid in Liberia After Bombing U.S. Embassies
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday, June 1, 2004

Gore Demands Clintonista Tenet Resign
Wednesday, May 26, 2004

Hillary: I Know About Being Commander in Chief
Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:53 a.m. EDT

Top Clintonistas Rush to Rescue Michael Moore
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:42 p.m. EDT

Clinton Honored for Linguistic Talent
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:21 p.m. EDT

New Book: CIA Director Blamed Clinton for 9/11
Jon E. Dougherty, NewsMax.com
Wednesday, May 19, 2004

Lehman: 9/11 Commission Eyes Secret Clinton Video
Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:28 p.m. EDT

'Rewriting History' Hits N.Y. Times Best-seller List
Monday, May 17, 2004 11:27 p.m. EDT

Vanity Fair: Bill Pushing for Kerry-Hillary Ticket
Friday, May 14, 2004 12:55 p.m. EDT

Vanity Fair: NewsMax Audio of Clinton's OBL Confession Most Damaging
Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:16 p.m. EDT

Editors Work on Clinton's 900-Page Manuscript
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday, May 11, 2004

Clinton's Pardons Remain Secret Despite Court's Action
NewsMax.com Wires
Friday, May 7, 2004

Publisher Fears Clinton Book All 'Blame and Self-justification'
Tuesday, May. 4, 2004 9:45 a.m. EDT

Clinton Nixed OBL Indictment for Black Hawk Down 
Monday, May. 03, 2004 12:47 PM EDT

Clinton Memoir Raises Hopes and Doubts
NewsMax Wires
Monday, May. 03, 2004

Bush Rebukes DOJ for Releasing Papers That Embarrass Gorelick
NewsMax.com Wires
Friday, April 30, 2004

Gorelick Rejected Attempt to Revise 'Wall' Memo
Scott Wheeler, CNSNews.com
Thursday, April 29, 2004

Clinton's Memoirs Due in June
NewsMax.com Wires
Monday, April 26, 2004

Gorelick's Memo Impeded Probe of Clinton's China Scandal
Scott Wheeler, CNSNews.com
Monday, April 26, 2004

9/11 Prober: Clinton-bin Laden Tape Will be 'Fully Vetted'
Monday, Apr. 26, 2004 03:23 PM EDT

Clinton: My Bin Laden Confession Was 'Inappropriate'
Tuesday, Apr. 20, 2004 11:16 AM EDT

FEC Heat Hurts Hillary's VP Chances
Monday, April 19, 2004 9:52 a.m. EDT

Levin: Declassify the Other Gorelick Memo
Friday, April 16, 2004 12:30 p.m.EDT

WSJ: Bush Should Pull the Plug on 9/11 Commission
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Ambassador Carney to 9/11 Commission: Probe Sudan Offer
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Wednesday, Apr. 14, 2004 10:45 PM EDT

Bob Kerrey: Clinton's 9/11 Testimony 'Much Different' From Prior Account
Wednesday, Apr. 14, 2004 12:13 AM EDT

Ashcroft: Clinton Admin. Blind to Terrorist Threat
Tuesday, Apr. 13, 2004 11:28 PM EDT

Democrat Kerrey: U.S. Was 'Just as Vulnerable' During Clinton-Reno Years
David Thibault and Melanie Hunter
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Al-Qaida Declared War on U.S. in 1996, Former FBI Director Freeh Says
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Tuesday, April 13, 2004

Commission: Ashcroft Rejected FBI's Request for Counterterrorism Money on 9/10
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Tuesday, April 13, 2004

9/11 Commission Obtained Video of Clinton Confession Last Month
Tuesday, Apr. 13, 2004 09:56 AM EDT

Gorelick Ignored Terror Warnings, Ex-FBI Chief Says
Monday, Apr. 12, 2004 01:58 PM EDT

Freeh Notes Clinton's Failure on al-Qaida
Monday, April 12, 2004

'Skyscraper' Suicide-Hijack Warnings Came During Clinton Era
Saturday, Apr. 10, 2004 02:47 PM EDT

Kerrey Details Clinton's Bin Laden Denial to Commission
Friday, Apr. 09, 2004 10:40 PM EDT

Clinton Denies Taped Bin Laden Admission, Blames 'Misquote'
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etc...etc...etc
all the back to arkansas,

87 posted on 06/26/2004 8:10:01 AM PDT by hoot2
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To: cubrepub

Why would anyone believe M/Moore He. is the lowest form of life


88 posted on 06/26/2004 8:10:15 AM PDT by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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To: beyond the sea
""I'm not some DUer planting seeds"

Just a DUer trying to graft bull nettle to a cherry tree. He sowed weeds and reaped a whirlwind.

89 posted on 06/26/2004 8:10:32 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: cubrepub
Found your pic!
90 posted on 06/26/2004 8:12:13 AM PDT by OSHA (Moose are big, dangerous, funny looking creatures with a silly name. Hey! They could be Freepers!)
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To: I got the rope
Much obliged.

:-)

91 posted on 06/26/2004 8:14:46 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Quilla
Your first posting and you're telling me you're not planting seeds? Are you in the market for a bridge in your area?

Come on Quilla, give it some slack. These 30 year old DUmmies have been waiting for this day for months. This is their Christmas, except that their Santa Claus, takes away their sanity and money.

92 posted on 06/26/2004 8:16:07 AM PDT by Dane
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To: cubrepub

Even the idiot Lawrence O'donnell can be right some of the time....oil is too cheap to go to war over. If America had wanted to help fund oil companies, we wouldn't have placed an embargo on Iraq in the first place.


93 posted on 06/26/2004 8:21:38 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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Hey, Eleanor Clift thinks Michael Moore's "a propagandist in the best sense of the word." I searched the web for hours and just can't find an example where she's led me wrong!


94 posted on 06/26/2004 8:21:58 AM PDT by twgiles
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To: cripplecreek
"I'm not some DUer planting seeds"

I'll bet that when this guy smokes pot, he does not inhale either

95 posted on 06/26/2004 8:22:23 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: cubrepub

Hey pal ABCess News panned the film as being a load of halftruths and outright falsehoods. Now when one of the big lib networks calls a film dishonest, what does that say to you?


96 posted on 06/26/2004 8:23:45 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: cubrepub

Fifty Awful Things About The Moderators

(50 things they don;t want you to know)

There are many moderators, with different kinds of secret knowledge. Anything you might say about them (including this) will be false for some of the Moderators, but true for others, which only adds to the confusion and mystery.

The Moderators infiltrate and take over cliques of all kinds, from drug warriors to libertarians to chatters, and turn them to their own ends.

And, just as a black joke, some of their secret cliques advertise themselves as Secret Cliques.

They have agents and "sleepers" planted everywhere. Many of these people have no idea who they are really reporting to. Others are active members of the conspiracy, working their way ever deeper into the fabric of the Free Republic society.

They control the welcome threads in order to make sure that new freepers learn to enjoy strange tuneless music and weird outlandish games, and that they dress oddly.

They also try to recruit the best and the brightest newbies as agents, to insure the next generation of the Conspiracy.

They constantly feud among themselves and war with other groups and organizations. Each Moderator is constantly striving to increase its power base and undermine the competition.

Their first means of dealing with Jim Robinson is to buy him off. To any freeper as rich as a Modertor, a few million dollars are nothing. They deal with others the same way, if they must.

Next they try threats. Danger to possessions, status or loved ones has dissuaded many a would-be foe of Moderator schemes.

And, of course, murder is an ancient Moderator weapon. The Moderators have been responsible for some of the most shocking assassinations of modern times.

They also replace Freeper accounts with doubles. For many years they recruited post-alikes who would serve their ends. Now they are perfecting cloning technology that will let them replace anybody. Anyone could really be a replacement. Even your best friend.

Those who can't be dealt with any other way are discredited or driven mad. Sometimes, this is a short drive. Sometimes, the Moderator makes the drive as well.

The Moderator conspiracy is as old as the forum. Many of the most famous names of history have been Moderators, or Moderator agents. Indeed, all of Free Republic's history is nothing more than an outside view of the schemes and struggles of the Moderators.

And, of course, the Moderators are constantly rewriting forum history to serve their own goals. For instance, newbies are taught that there is no historical evidence of DITHF, and they learn nothing about the Mass Exodus or the March For Justice.

They control the sidebars, so you hear what they want you to about today's news. Any event that doesn't fit in with their program will be quickly hushed up.

In particular, they control Breaking News. They don't permit intelligent threads to survive; they encourage mind candy that will keep people from thinking. The only reason good threads are permitted to appear at all is to convince intelligent people that nobody else likes such material, and that there must be something wrong with them.

The Moderators manipulate the Republicans and control politics on an international level. Your candidate's worth is just what the Moderators want it to be.

Likewise, the entire "war on drugs" is an Moderator invention. There's no war on drugs, or any real objection to such a thing, but plentiful free energy expended on the WOD might otherwise threaten the Moderators power base, if not expended on mindless infighting.

The Moderators are doing their best to hold back the forum's expansion, for the same reason. If Freepdom was more expansive, they'd be much harder to control. [Not all the Moderators agree on this. Some of them lust after the additional subjects to oppress, and some want (literally) new worlds to conquer..

And some of them are in touch with aliens from outer space. Some of them ARE aliens. Why would "advanced beings" want to meddle with the affairs of Freepers? Good question.

Worse, some of them have actual magical powers and are in league with forces from ... elsewhere. Great huge beings that are madness to look upon, or tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners. They have pins and dolls; they know old names.

Other Moderators have embraced technology. Their files of information are much more useful when backed by the power of the computer. They are also conditioning everyone to believe that computers are so complicated and dangerous that only the Experts should play with them. Next time you get an electric bill for $666,666.66, you know who's behind it.

And some of these technophiles have gone a step farther, creating actual machine intelligences. These sentient computers are now, themselves, a force amoung the ruling Moderators. And they post just like any other Freepers.

The Moderators don't like flame wars; they are time consuming and wasteful. Flame wars only happen when two or more Moderators are very evenly matched and neither is willing to negotiate. But then they whip a few cliques into a righteous fervor and go at it.

They send secret messages through the newspaper articles and over Freeper radio-- in the posts, and even buried in the replies. They have other, even stranger forms of secret communications ... all around you, all the time.

They keep everyone -- yes, everyone -- under constant surveillance. Every time you fill out another post, another reply, another profile, you're weaving another strand of the net that binds the world. Every reply gives them more of a complete picture.

They are working to make the forum rules as confusing as possible, so everything will be illegal or potentially illegal -- then they have a hold on everybody and everyone will fear their rule.

They encourage resistance to authority among newbies and political dissidents, to distract older Freepers from the real enemy within.

But when they reach a satisfactory level of control, they turn their efforts toward extinguishing independence and encouraging mindless obedience to whatever orders come from the Moderators or their servants.

They commit random atrocities -- pulling articles posted by paleos, banning libertarians, suspending Catholics, nuking Evangelicals, taking down Bushbots, poisoning food at grocery stores, murdering old blind ladies -- just to make people vaguely confused, frightened and paranoid.

They suppress ideas which might change the status quo. Grand political plans are all lying in Moderator vaults, waiting for the day when it will suit the Secret Masters to release them. What happened to those who generated these grand plans? Bought off, intimidated, or just vanished.

On the other hand, they also maintain secret laboratories where they develop new weapons and devices of all kind. Lightning comes to mind.

Their arcane investigations cause all sorts of mysteries. Ever wonder about the Loch Ness Monster? The "cattle mutilations?" DITHF?

And they require hundreds of Freeper victims every year for their experiments. Ever wonder why there are so many Banned Freeper reports, and why so few of those people are found?

They are constantly experimenting with new types of mind control. They put drugs in drinking water, flash subliminal messages on threads, and play instructions that you can't quite hear over supermarket loudspeakers. They experiment with microwaves and ultra-low-frequency devices, too. But the most nefarious of all is "Freep this Poll". Are you manipulating the polls, or are the polls being used to manipulate you? Hurry, the liberals are flooding this one!

And every thread on Free Republic is a potential path for Moderator messages, attacks or controlling rays. Did you ever stop to think just how many threads you read? And do you have any idea where they really come from?

Naturally, they discourage investigation of the strange and unusual, because it might lead to them. But they encourage people to joke about the Moderators.

They also post supermarket tabloids, just to make sure that everybody thinks "Hitler's Brain Is Alive!" and "Bigfoot Seen In Hawaii" are just jokes.

And they encourage the craziest pseudo-science "researcher" articles they can find, because this tends to discredit legitimate investigators into the unusual.

A popular belief is that the Moderators want power for its own sake. This is true of some of them. But other Moderators exist to support an ideology, to achieve a particular goal, or simply to oppose some other Moderators.

One of their chief preoccupations is job security by any means possible. Nobody who has held ultimate power for all these years is eager to let it go. Anything you can think of ... yoga, cryonics, body-exchange, magic, cloning, goat (or other) glands, transfusions, computerized personality duplication ... has been tried by the Moderators at one time or another. And some of them work.

Furthermore, powerful Moderators from past centuries lie waiting to be revived when science allows it. Mummies, pickled corpses, frozen bodies, conscious brains in jars ... you would recognize the names if we could mention them.

You're not cleared for this one.

They use propaganda as a weapon to discipline their own populations or destroy competing ones.

They have a variety of unhuman and inhuman servants. The dreaded Thread Nannies are perhaps their best-known agents. No one knows whether the TNs are androids, golems, or something even worse. Perhaps they were once human...

And they really are breeding a Master Race. The Trolls had no idea how they were being used, or why. And they'd be horrified at the Moderators' idea of perfection.

The Moderators know weird sexual techniques undreamed of in the Kama Sutra. They also know why those techniques are used.

The next time you spend too much time reading something you didn't want to or need to, and you forget it in an hour, you can be sure you've just contributed to an Moderator time-wasting experiment.

They start chain letters. They also plant rumors that the Red Cross can buy an iron lung if you send them a million cigarette packages, and that dying children in England want ten million business cards. No one knows why they do this. Except Ted Nugent.

Zot.

The above based on 50 Awful Things About The Illuminati, by Steve Jackson


97 posted on 06/26/2004 8:24:15 AM PDT by Mustangcountry (Is it just me or is David Brock lying about his previous truths?)
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To: Day Kay

Ducks Unlimited...LOL! I've been around here a while and I just found out myself what DU was. I stopped going there because I couldn't stand to go to my "FAVORITES" to click on it.


98 posted on 06/26/2004 8:26:34 AM PDT by shiva
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To: dighton
"“There is no other zot but Zot, and the Mod is His prophet.”

"There are no moderators near FRee Republic,never. Dont believe them. We cannot fail to win our trolling posts, Everything is OK. We are winning"

Baghdad Bob.

99 posted on 06/26/2004 8:26:38 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States
They retrofitted the opium pipeline to to allow for oil?

Yes. They tied a rope to Michael Moore's feet and swabbed it out with his arse.
Now he's mad about it. And very stoned.

100 posted on 06/26/2004 8:26:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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