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Cavuto: How Fox News Became a Giant
NewsMax.com ^ | 6/24/04 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 06/24/2004 10:36:24 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: RolandBurnam
It's a revelation to many that news people are often not very smart people; they don't know how to think.

And they know very, very little about history.

21 posted on 06/24/2004 12:03:07 PM PDT by what's up
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To: kattracks
Thanks for the post. Always liked Cavuto, especially his opinion segment at the end of his program.

Red

22 posted on 06/24/2004 12:11:16 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I love the 1st Amendment...I can call Clinton an idiot.)
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To: kattracks
The pack journalists are not intrinsically evil.

They're just intrinsically mentally ill.

Actually they ARE evil, because they sell their careers for a paycheck, they report what their employer wants them to report, because they want to stay on the journalistic gravy train.

23 posted on 06/24/2004 12:19:05 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: kattracks

bump


24 posted on 06/24/2004 12:27:23 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: prion
If you're talking about news content, there shouldn't be "sides" at all.

Fascinating comment; please explain. Maybe "all sides" would satisfy you? What I had in mind was both labor and management, not labor alone; or both Democrat and Republican talking points, not merely the Democrat, etc.

I would say Fox's news reportage -- again, because they're largely dependent on AP -- is slightly left of center.

I don't agree. Concrete examples please. Yes, there's too much 'pack journalism,' as there always has been. But Fox has many sources of information apart from AP: its own field correspondents and consultants, Sky News, and every other wire service available, Reuters, UPI, Dow Jones, etc.

Re: Abu Ghraib, didn't I see the images of Saddam's thugs beating and torturing their own people on Fox? Yes, I did -- and not anyplace else. Of course I've given up watching much of anything else. Did you see it on CNN or ABC or CBS or MSNBC or...? I doubt it.

Yes, to a large extent the Left controls the debate. That's the Right's fault, not Fox's. Are you suggesting that Fox should just ignore and not report and respond to the Left's political theater staged through its puppets like AP, NYT, LAT, etc.? The job of the media is to report and hopefully interpret and place perspective on news events, not create them. When Frist & Co. become as creative at "news" management as Teddy Kennedy, Michael Moore and the rest of the Democrat Flying Monkeys, the Right can begin to control the debate.

25 posted on 06/24/2004 1:28:13 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Is Karl Marx's grave a Communist plot?)
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To: Bernard Marx
What I had in mind was both labor and management, not labor alone; or both Democrat and Republican talking points, not merely the Democrat, etc.

Well, we were talking about lefty versus righty news reportage, you said you wanted to see both. I took that to mean you'd like to hear both partisan views, rather than that you'd like to hear the views of all the principals in the news story. The latter should be de rigeur for any respectable news source.

But Fox has many sources of information apart from AP: its own field correspondents and consultants, Sky News, and every other wire service available, Reuters, UPI, Dow Jones, etc.

All of those sources, excluding their own correspondents (mostly), Dow Jones and possibly Sky, tilt way left. If I'm scouring the news sites for more information on a particular story, it often happens that the same piece appears in them all nearly verbatim, because they've all slapped an original headline on the same AP or Reuters wire story.

Are you suggesting that Fox should just ignore and not report and respond to the Left's political theater staged through its puppets like AP, NYT, LAT, etc.?

I'm suggesting they don't have to let the NYT tell them what to talk about and how long to talk about it.

The job of the media is to report and hopefully interpret and place perspective on news events, not create them.

Yipe! No interpretations or perspective for me, thanks -- in the news section, anyway. Not beyond what a reporter simply cannot avoid because he has to decide what to report about.

26 posted on 06/24/2004 2:40:16 PM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: Lady Heron

"...a total conservative news channel." We're ready for one. We watch Fox News only. Never watch CNN, ABC, etc. But a purely conservative news channel would be marvelous after so many, many years of liberal crap.


27 posted on 06/24/2004 3:02:21 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: kattracks
Still, Cavuto believes more journalists than you can imagine at liberal establishment media yearn to be free of the shacles of political correctness.

I suppose that makes sense.

28 posted on 06/24/2004 3:34:39 PM PDT by Angry Republican
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To: Badeye

Wonderful post. I couldn't agree more.


29 posted on 06/24/2004 6:46:21 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: reformedliberal

Thanks.


30 posted on 06/25/2004 7:04:25 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

31 posted on 06/27/2004 9:48:26 PM PDT by nutmeg (God bless President Ronald Reagan)
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To: kattracks; All

Rackkk Neil

You know what I got one beef too much Entertainment news COME ON Rupert I want interntaioal news more often come on sweetie work that SKy news sources

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32 posted on 06/27/2004 10:46:30 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: nutmeg

bttt


33 posted on 06/27/2004 11:46:12 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 06/28/2004 7:29:06 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Lady Heron
I do not know, I think I am ready for a total conservative news channel because I am absolutely sick of liberals.

You have it, right here at FReeRepublic. This is the conservative BIASED news outlet. FoxNews should NOT be biased. It reports the news fairly evenly and that's how it should be. But then, that's my opinion.

P.S. I LOVE Right Wing, American Loving Conservatives. We're the Bestest and the RIGHTest. GO USA and Conservatism :-)

35 posted on 06/28/2004 6:21:19 PM PDT by Gracey (NOT Fonda Kerry and his 9.10 Democrat Party mentality)
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To: Badeye
YOU are an example of WHY AMERICA WORKS.

I Have Lived your Financial Problems on a Much Smaller Scale.

The UTTER MORONS attempting to destroy "Small Business" in America have "Redefined Evil."

I Thought we "Came to Grips With" "Fasciism/Communism" 30 years ago!!

APPARENTLY, we are STILL forced to "Fight" the IDIOTS who believe that "STATE CONTROL OF the ECONOMY" works!!

LIKE the "UNDEAD,"--HOW MANY TIMES must we Kill the Thoroughly Discredited Concept of a "State-Run Monopoly," BEFORE it is FINALLY, "DEAD!!??"

Doc

36 posted on 06/28/2004 6:53:34 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: Badeye; JohnHuang2
Thanks. The sucess we have realized is the primary reason I dislike liberals. Let me explain. I fought, clawed, scratched to get to where I am right now, personally and professionally, and financially. The hard work of myself and the biz partner, not to mention the staff has paid off. Since 1999, we've literally "had it made", cash flow is great, sales are great, long term debt has been paid off in full. Salaries are six figures now, as opposed the the $11 per hour the biz partner and I paid ourselves that first 18 months, putting all our money made on the debts incurred during the start up. Then along comes Al Gore, railing against the "evil one percent". I busted my ass to get where I am today. I'm not "evil", I pay my taxes on time, actually "early" against the advice of our financial advisors. I didn't ask for the governments help. I didn't take a student loan thats never repaid. I didn't apply for any special status based on being a vet, or race, or anything else. We did it on our own. And the Democratic Party in effect hates me, hates my biz partner for it. How dare we become sucessful without attaching ourselves to the government teat is basically what comes across loud and clear. So when I hear a sissyboy like Gore, or now the laughable John Kerry talk about tax breaks for the rich, I want to beat the living hell out of both of them....ram one of their oh so trendy ski boots right up their ass. Wrap that $2,000 dollar mountain bike Kerry's wife's money bought him around his neck. These POS have no idea what it takes to create a company, to create high paying jobs. They were both born with silver freakin spoons in their mouths, both understood the term "trust fund" at about the age I learned about sex. And yet they feel the urge to beat up "the rich" as they describe anyone that makes more than $100,000 per year? I grew up around money, even though my father was a Teamster. I know trust fund babies, most of whom are now grownup leftwingnuts. I can't help detesting them, the Democratic Party in general. But, its fair and balanced. They really hate me too...as every DNC commercial reminds me, day after day after day.

Damn, that was good. So good that I'm going to quote it in full so that it goes into my post archives...

Is that too long to make Quote of the Day?

37 posted on 06/28/2004 7:09:27 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Doc On The Bay

"YOU are an example of WHY AMERICA WORKS. "

Just one example out of millions.....


38 posted on 06/29/2004 6:55:53 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Ichneumon

"Damn, that was good. So good that I'm going to quote it in full so that it goes into my post archives...

Is that too long to make Quote of the Day?"


He he he....rereading it, I'd say its more appropriate to nominate that post for "Rant of the Day".

Thanks...


39 posted on 06/29/2004 6:57:11 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Ichneumon
"America Works" DESPITE the "Propaganda & Active Opposition" of "The 'Left!!'"

One can STILL create a "Business" in America which MIGHT," "Turn a Profit;" Providing the "LEFT" doesn't Notice you!

"Success" in America is Now "Measured By" how well one "Dodges the 'Regulators!'"

We "Succeed by" avoiding the "Attention of" our own Government!

This IS NOT the "Nation" our Forefathers Created!!

"AMERICA" has succeeded because we are a TRULY FREE SOCIETY; There can be NO "Government Control" of Commerce in our Nation.

After watching "Centrally Controlled Economies" CRASH, our "Leaders" have Come to Realize that a "Free Economy" is the ONLY "Economic Model" compatible with "Human Psychology!!"

SO,--Here We Are,--embroiled in an "Economy" our "Putative Leaders" are Trying to Control!

I can ONLY Believe that our Economy is, Now, FAR STRONGER THAN the "Pitiful Attempts" of Those Who would attempt to Control It.

40 posted on 06/29/2004 6:27:58 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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