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Korean Beheading Video Being Passed around On Islamic sites "Graphic warning"
Muslims sites ^ | 06/23/04 | elisabeth

Posted on 06/23/2004 1:39:58 PM PDT by ElisabethInCincy

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To: Criminal Number 18F
Whatever happened, Ogrish has control of its DNS again as of 7:30 pm EDT. This is on their front page:

Launching personal attacks on Ogrish.com is taking the law into your own hands : a method of action much like that of the terrorists.(Cyber-Terrorists?) We trace all IPs and will prosecute any attacks to the full extent of the law. Ogrish.com is not encouraging harm to Kim Sun-Il or anyone else... in fact, we are trying to discourage it by showing the reality of how evil these terrorists are. Ogrish.com is merely trying to keep the public up to date and provide the reality of the violence that goes on in the world.

Note that even opening the front page is NSFW, as Ogrish sells animated GIF ads to porn sites.

61 posted on 06/23/2004 4:34:56 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ¡°ml maximize¡± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

It certainly appeared to me that something was done between the 1st and 2nd halves of the video. In the 1st half, he is rocking back and forth, sobbing, hyperventilating, screaming "please, please". After the break, he is kneeling in perfect silence and stillness. I only think I heard the faintest grunt when the knife starts cutting his neck and the actual beheading is incredibly quick. Maybe they finally had a sharp enough knife, as someone else said.

Any theories? Could he have been sedated? He definitely appeared sedated for the second half of the video. There's no way he could change from apoplectic to completely calm and still.


62 posted on 06/23/2004 4:55:41 PM PDT by saquin
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To: TomGuy
Also, his body was wrapped with explosives--an attempt to cause even more mayhem.

During WWII, the Japanese booby-trapped their own dead (one last chance to win one for the Emperor, I guess).  And, on the domestic front, there is the example of the late Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, who booby-trapped their own bodies before committing suicide.

63 posted on 06/23/2004 5:00:51 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: saquin

I've noticed a pattern. Everyone who says they saw the video doesn't put up any more posts, even on other threads. Are these computers crashing right after viewing the video? Some of these people saw the video several hours ago, and haven't posted since. I'm not going to download it until I think it's safe. I know enough to scan it, but I would think after the earlier discussion on this thread, everyone who has mysteriously disappeared would know that too.


64 posted on 06/23/2004 5:13:21 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Recovering Hermit

I'm just waiting, waiting until they do this to a woman. And they will.


65 posted on 06/23/2004 5:37:30 PM PDT by rintense (Screw justice. I want revenge.)
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To: rintense
I'm just waiting, waiting until they do this to a woman. And they will.

It appears that they prefer to shoot the women and then behead the men, so far.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they did start beheading women for shock value. They have no mercy and absolutely no regard for human life.

Watch the video of poor Kim if you can stand it...it's the worst by far because he was frightened out of his mind, pleading for his life.

They let him suffer, read their statement, and then just butcher him.

66 posted on 06/23/2004 5:53:04 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: Recovering Hermit
I just downloaded it with no problems...

Still no problems? Everyone who downloads it seems to mysteriously disappear right afterward.

67 posted on 06/23/2004 5:54:05 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Recovering Hermit

I watched it. And I am even more angry than before. I don't even have words that can express my rage right now... just read the tagline.


68 posted on 06/23/2004 5:55:38 PM PDT by rintense (Screw justice. I want revenge.)
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To: ElisabethInCincy

http://www.hostinganime.com/iraqnews2/

Well whatever it had on it, it isn't working now.


69 posted on 06/23/2004 5:57:06 PM PDT by Kerberos (Groups are inherently more immoral than individuals.)
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To: BykrBayb
Everyone who downloads it seems to mysteriously disappear right afterward.

Probably because they have to go and lie down for awhile and do some pretty heavy thinking.

I was at work, and didn't have that luxury.

I'll tell you this...I stumbled upon a beheading video a few years back of some Russian soldier getting beheaded by Chechen "rebels". I didn't sleep well after that.

Daniel Pearl? I squinted through that.

Nich Berg? I squinted through that one also but was sorry I still had the volume up.

Kim Sun-Il? I watched it with eyes and ears wide open.

It's important to know your enemy.

70 posted on 06/23/2004 6:06:29 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: Recovering Hermit

I guess it's my turn. Wish me luck.


71 posted on 06/23/2004 6:08:05 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: spodefly

You would think good Christians would be past the lynch-mob mentality of WWII (Japanese internment).


72 posted on 06/23/2004 6:10:04 PM PDT by FRockville
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To: BykrBayb

I saw the video from that website and my computer did not crash. I have watched it 3 times and get more mad every time. I want their heads on a pike!


73 posted on 06/23/2004 6:11:46 PM PDT by pitinkie
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To: BykrBayb
I saw the video on another thread at Orgish.com.

The guy was dead when they sliced his head off. There was a scarf tied around his neck that was bloody. He didn't kick or scream. I think the head was already cut off and they just faked like he was alive, them pulled up the head.

Nothing happened to my computer.

74 posted on 06/23/2004 6:18:49 PM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: Chieftain

I thought I heard screaming....at least it seemed quicker than the others.


75 posted on 06/23/2004 6:22:07 PM PDT by pitinkie (revenge will be sweet)
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To: BykrBayb
There are 1.9 meg and a .5 meg versions at the previously mentioned NSFW site that begins with an "O," a 3.6 meg version at another NSFW site with the intials "CJ."

Someone should let some talking heads like Michael Savage know, as they like to post these videos on their sites.
76 posted on 06/23/2004 6:22:31 PM PDT by FRockville
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To: Recovering Hermit

That Russian video is a real nasty one. The chechens take the cake for their sadism. The facial close up was brutal.
Took me several months to get over it.


77 posted on 06/23/2004 6:24:45 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: pacman50

Ping


78 posted on 06/23/2004 6:26:32 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Michael Berg: "What has happened between Mr. Moore and myself is personal.")
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To: Chieftain
The guy was dead when they sliced his head off.

Hmmmm...haven't seen the video...but could that be why Al-Jazeera didn't want to show this execution? Perhaps they felt it was a dud and wouldn't resonate as well with the "Arab street" (tm) as a Nick Berg video would (they did air that one, didn't they)?
79 posted on 06/23/2004 6:27:08 PM PDT by FRockville
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To: Chieftain
The guy was dead when they sliced his head off.

I don't think so...there's 50 seconds or so where they skipped the actual "sawing off", but in the beginning he was alive and screaming when they grabbed his head and jumped on him.

The "sawing off" part must be boring to these scumbags, so they skip it.

I find it hard to believe I'm actually sitting here discussing this type of event. It's insanity.

80 posted on 06/23/2004 6:32:06 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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