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Clinton to Couric: "Starr Saw Himself as Christian Driving Infidel from Temple"
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Posted on 06/23/2004 4:39:36 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

It's official. Bill Clinton sees himself as a heroic victim of virtually Christ-like proportions.

In his just-aired interview with Katie Couric, he rarely strayed from his visceral fixation on and hatred for Ken Starr. His paranoia and grandiosity reached their delusional peak when he claimed the following:

"Starr believed it violated the natural order of things for me to be elected. They (the far right) thought there would never be another Democract in the White House. Starr doesn't think he is a bad man. He thought he was a good God-fearing Christian man trying to drive an infidel from the temple."

When you start referring to yourself in these kind of biblical terms, it's time to call in the docs. The guy clearly has delusions of virtually Christ-like grandeur. His statement comes close to "forgive them for they know not what they do."

On other matters:

Q. "You well know Pres. Clinton that many people will turn to index and look up Lewinsky. Does that bother you?"

A. "No, because I want them to see what I have to say, and I know that millions of people are interested in other things."

Q: "I have to ask you [note the inherent apology in Couric's question for treading on sensitive ground], do you feel sorry for Monica Lewinsky? I feel in many ways her life is irreparably damaged."

A. "I feel sorry becuase she was betrayed by her friend and caught up in big Starr and media imbroglio. [So he feels sorry not for what he did but for what others - his perceived enemies - did to her.] I feel much more sorry for Susan McDougal. It made her stronger, she became a magnificent human being. I hope for Monica that she will not be trapped in her 15 minutes of frame. I'm pulling for her."

Q: "People have remarked how candid you have been in the book." [??!!!] The other person in this [Lewinksy] story is Hillary. People don't understand how could have hung her out to dry, let her come on the Today Show. [The clip is aired of Hillary on Today alleging the VRWC.]"

A. "You have to come to grips with and the media has to come to grips with is that I did a bad thing. It was a crazy time. I did a bad thing and a bad thing in misleading everyone. But it's also true that Starr did a bad thing."

"I've tried to understand why I did the things I did without making excuses for them. But [here comes the excuse] I hope no one else has to live with I did: being subjected to a man with almost unlimited power trying to put people in jail, even though he knew it was false. Newt said they did what they did because they could. I said the same thing about myself."

This report may not adequately convey the anger in Clinton and his total fixation on his perceived mistreatment by Starr and the media.

To venture a psychological analysis, I would suggest that on a certain level Clinton is projecting his own self-loathing and disgust onto others. No, scratch that. That would imply that he is a somewhat normal human being subject to feelings of guilt. He is a sociopath. I have no doubt that he truly does believe that others are at fault for all his problems.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 06/23/2004 4:39:37 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Today Show ping.


2 posted on 06/23/2004 4:40:34 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"He thought he was a good God-fearing Christian man trying to drive an infidel from the temple"

Yeah? And?


3 posted on 06/23/2004 4:42:13 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
He thought he was a good God-fearing Christian man trying to drive an infidel from the temple.

He was.

Regards, Ivan

4 posted on 06/23/2004 4:43:32 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

His behavior is textbook sociopathic behavior. He feels no remorse for what he did. He does not believe what he did was his fault. He always looks to put the blame on someone else (including his victims).
That this man could be twice elected and still vehemently defended tells me a lot about the state of this nation. Quite frankly, it frightens me.


5 posted on 06/23/2004 4:46:21 AM PDT by defendingright
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I hope for Monica that she will not be trapped in her 15 minutes of frame. I'm pulling for her."

I'm PULLING for her ? Why are his choice of words so obviously well, obvious?


6 posted on 06/23/2004 4:47:51 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is why I hate the democrat party !


7 posted on 06/23/2004 4:49:11 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: defendingright

You are dead on.....always someone else's fault.....none of these people would have had to go through any of this, if he would have just told the truth.


8 posted on 06/23/2004 4:50:20 AM PDT by mystery-ak (*They are all Pat Tillman's*........Rush)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

And the Perky Katie Communist saw herself as Monica during the interview?


9 posted on 06/23/2004 4:50:54 AM PDT by Corporate Law (<>< -- Xavier Basketball - Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: defendingright

"That this man could be twice elected and still vehemently defended tells me a lot about the state of this nation. Quite frankly, it frightens me."

You are not alone, my friend. A lot of us who got to know Clinton in far less detail than that poor Ken Starr wanted to drive him from the White House and I'm sorry that it didn't happen...except Al Gore would have been president.



10 posted on 06/23/2004 4:51:39 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I love this. All der Slickmeister is doing is energizing the GOP, reminding us why we oppose his party, while taking the spotlight away from Kerry.


11 posted on 06/23/2004 4:52:01 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Corporate Law

I think Couric was aware that she would be under the spotlight for this interview and was therefore not blatantly sycophantish. But here "I have to ask" preface to a Monica question gave away the game. She was apologetic about asking even a mildly probing question.


12 posted on 06/23/2004 4:52:27 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Damn.
He is truly sick.
A sociopath deluxe.


13 posted on 06/23/2004 4:53:11 AM PDT by onyx
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; LindaSOG; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; ...
"Starr believed it violated the natural order of things for me to be elected.
It did violate the natural order.
They (the far right) thought there would never be another Democract in the White House.

I hope this turns out to be true.
Starr doesn't think he is a bad man.

He's not a bad man.
He thought he was a good God-fearing Christian man trying to drive an infidel from the temple."

I'm glad he tried, but you wouldn't leave. Badge of honor, my @$$.

By the way, did the perky one give BJ a Lewinsky?

14 posted on 06/23/2004 4:53:32 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It is not Bush's fault... it is the media's fault!)
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To: All

I have to run out for a meeting. I'll check back later to read everyone's posts.


15 posted on 06/23/2004 4:53:35 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Classic serial-criminal speak.


16 posted on 06/23/2004 4:54:24 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

*sigh* Will we never be free from this self-serving sociopath?


17 posted on 06/23/2004 4:54:55 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: defendingright
That this man could be twice elected and still vehemently defended tells me a lot about the state of this nation. Quite frankly, it frightens me.

I've had similar thoughts since around 1998, when I fully realized the fanatical support some gave, and still offer, this man. I do fear and worry for my country, and I'm damned if I know what to do about it.

18 posted on 06/23/2004 4:56:03 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Let's see now...from mis-spent youth, to draft dodger, to peace-nic, to ward of the state, to Hillary's boy, to scum-bag, now to self-professed saint and victim.

What a career!


19 posted on 06/23/2004 4:56:42 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: defendingright
His behavior is textbook sociopathic behavior. He feels no remorse for what he did. He does not believe what he did was his fault. He always looks to put the blame on someone else (including his victims

A sociopath and a serial rapist/sexual predator:

Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;

In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident.

In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account.

Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;

Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape;

From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;

Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room."

Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.

Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.

Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.

Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.

Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.

20 posted on 06/23/2004 4:56:50 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (One man in the right makes a majority!)
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