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Mark Steyn: Vote 'No' for a federal Europe
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 06/22/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/21/2004 4:41:37 PM PDT by Pokey78

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1 posted on 06/21/2004 4:41:37 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...

2 posted on 06/21/2004 4:42:19 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
I want to be reincarnated as Mark Steyn.
3 posted on 06/21/2004 4:45:42 PM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Pokey78

This should be required reading for every resident of the UK.


4 posted on 06/21/2004 4:46:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Pokey78; Eurotwit
Thanks much for the "q"less post.

Yo! eurotwit. Here ya go.

FMCDH(BITS)

5 posted on 06/21/2004 4:55:42 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: Pokey78

Rule of thumb factoid....

If France is in favor of any measure.....
It is bad for you.....

Semper Fi


6 posted on 06/21/2004 4:57:17 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Pokey78

PERFECTEMUNDO!


7 posted on 06/21/2004 4:57:50 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The Four Pillars of America; Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Reagan)
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To: Pokey78
But, the new federation will have a bureaucracy measured in millions of governmental employees. The easy living, great pay, greater benefits and bribes beyond belief for those English speakers must be tempting. Or, at least, tempting until the federation decides that there are simply too many official languages and trims English from the list.
8 posted on 06/21/2004 5:01:29 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: Pokey78

Awesome.


9 posted on 06/21/2004 5:02:33 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: Pokey78

thanks pokey78


10 posted on 06/21/2004 5:03:36 PM PDT by rudypoot (Rat line = Routes that foreign fighters use to enter Iraq.)
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To: Tacis

But, the new federation will have a bureaucracy measured in millions of governmental employees. The easy living, great pay, greater benefits and bribes beyond belief for those English speakers must be tempting. Or, at least, tempting until the federation decides that there are simply too many official languages and trims English from the list.

WAY TOO FUNNEY. LOL.


11 posted on 06/21/2004 5:05:13 PM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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To: Pokey78
It's not the British people but their EUtopian elites who are deeply ignorant - of comparative data, historical precedent and basic arithmetic. The reality for Britain in Europe is simple: united we'll fall, divided we might stand a sporting chance.

Mark Steyn is absolutely right. Socialists of the world thrill to see the fall of the US, the fall of England, and the fall of Israel. What will take place then? "Global control". And the major, ugly, noncivil squabbling will begin. All arsenal kept carefully hidden will out under this "socialist" regime. There are those who refuse to actually do a day's work -- and these wish to be living off the gratis of the working. Permanently. I do not wish to see England fall.

12 posted on 06/21/2004 5:05:31 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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"if America were as centrally governed as France, it would break up"

And, that, in a nutshell, is precisely what is going to happen: not too many years down the road, the "new, improved,centralized" Europe will be headed for massive civil unrest and possibly, a new "set" of regional conflicts.

13 posted on 06/21/2004 5:06:18 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Pokey78

"Monsieur du Plicitous"

LMAO!!!!!!

I can't stand it!!


14 posted on 06/21/2004 5:09:04 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Pokey78
Anyone who wants to see the absurdity of the EU should check out the following links.

Grocer fights metric laws
Grocer loses metric battle

15 posted on 06/21/2004 5:12:03 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: MadIvan

Ivan, I always thought that Britain's (or England's) cardinal rule of foreign policy for centuries was to prevent any single power from dominating the continent. Doesn't the EU qualify?

I find it interesting and not at all coincidental that two of the four nations Mark lists as rich and over 1 million population are European nations outside the EU! How is this possible? Aren't European nations outside the EU doomed?


16 posted on 06/21/2004 5:13:28 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: Pokey78

Thank you, thank you for the ping-ping!


17 posted on 06/21/2004 5:32:23 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Kerry and Gephardt: Missing over 90% of their work and still getting paid. Fire 'em!)
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To: Pokey78

the idea of a federated europe is would work if the french,belgians and germans didnt demand to be in control.

lets hope they continue being so greedy, I have no wish for europe to rise.

The EU will tend to be doomed by the same greedy nationalism that has always kept europe at odds


18 posted on 06/21/2004 5:38:43 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: NathanR
...until the federation decides that there are simply too many official languages and trims English from the list.

It's very unlikely that will happen, however. With the recent expansion, English is even more dominant in EU institutions than it was before. Poles, Estonians, Slovaks, etc are not to keen to speak either French or German, especially given the unlikelihood of French or Germans speaking their language. Some parts of the EU Commission attempt to enforce French speaking, but I understand these regimes never succeed (the French blame America of course).

You are spot on, however, about the easy Eurocrat life. There was a recent expose about waste in the EU Parliament. This could help explain the recent gains of the Euroskeptics in the EU Parliament elections.

19 posted on 06/21/2004 5:41:41 PM PDT by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: You Dirty Rats
that two of the four nations Mark lists as rich and over 1 million population are European nations outside the EU!

Norway does, however, conform to all EU law and rules since it is a member of the EEA (European Economic Area). Therefore, Norway has to follow all the rules, without any representation in the EU. Their choice.

20 posted on 06/21/2004 5:43:58 PM PDT by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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