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Major Power-System Losses Hit the Southwest; Grid Operators Avert Westwide Cascading Outages
News Data Corp, California Energy Markets ^ | June 18, 2004 | John Edwards

Posted on 06/21/2004 2:32:44 PM PDT by Robert357

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It is going to be interesting to see what kind of blackout California has this summer. The Cal ISO pulled one out of the fire this time. I am amazed. Maybe with the firing of management and other changes the Cal ISO will get its act together. I hope so. This was a close call, very close, too close!

With Palo Verde down, I expect the California will be even more "on the edge" for the next few weeks.

1 posted on 06/21/2004 2:32:47 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Robert357; snopercod; Dog Gone; randita; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; lewislynn
While we were all distracted by Enron, some real stuff was happening.

Looks like California avoided a major Blackout one week ago. Strange how I didn't see this covered in the media that was obsessed with Enron? Oh well I guess there isn't much politics in this!!!

2 posted on 06/21/2004 2:35:05 PM PDT by Robert357
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The last thing we need in AZ in June is for the A/C's to stop running!


3 posted on 06/21/2004 2:35:36 PM PDT by AZamericonnie ("America is too great for small dreams" President Ronald Reagan)
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To: All

Actually switches operate in milliseconds to control the UV. No way could human intervention have prevented this. Good maintenance on sub-station equipment is the key.


4 posted on 06/21/2004 2:39:12 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: AZamericonnie

Major league meltdown if it happened in Missouri. Fortunately, we have plenty of cheap hydro from Lake of the Ozarks and Truman Dam.


5 posted on 06/21/2004 2:39:46 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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I'm glad Texas has its own power grid. You never hear about the Texas grid going down.


6 posted on 06/21/2004 2:41:02 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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Whewww!


7 posted on 06/21/2004 2:41:18 PM PDT by Kackikat
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ping


8 posted on 06/21/2004 2:42:04 PM PDT by Calpernia (When you bite the hand that feeds you, you eventually run out of food.)
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I guess there is something to be said for having to look at these things in my back yard


9 posted on 06/21/2004 2:45:01 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
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ya and your neighboors will raise HE** with you for the eye sore in your yard.


10 posted on 06/21/2004 2:46:38 PM PDT by markman46
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And if you have one of these, you don't need to worry about it at all.


11 posted on 06/21/2004 2:46:47 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
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12 posted on 06/21/2004 2:46:54 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: Robert357

My mother-in-law works at Palo Verde. She was off work last Monday when the system went down. I teased her that every time she's off work one of the grids goes down. She asked if it had been reported, but apparently the reason the grid went down was because a bird pooped on a line. Big bird, I guess.


13 posted on 06/21/2004 2:48:07 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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Sounds like a big suck to the West, isn't Palo Verde an export hub?
14 posted on 06/21/2004 2:52:35 PM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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ya and your neighboors will raise HE** with you for the eye sore in your yard.

They are already here. Thousands of them. Not in my yard exactly but close enough to keep the juice flowing in our neighborhood. If you look at the valley floor just below the snow on the peak you can make out the windmills.

Besides, the views are not all bad.

15 posted on 06/21/2004 2:54:42 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
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Heck, it's about 90 today in Reno, NV cannot imagine how hot it's gotta be in AZ!!!


16 posted on 06/21/2004 2:56:35 PM PDT by BossLady (What do your choices cost you????)
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but apparently the reason the grid went down was because a bird pooped on a line. Big bird, I guess.

Where did something similiar like this happen twice in one week to the same grid / line? I think it was an airport.

Does this happen because the gap between the lines is bridged? If so I would think that's a common (albeit deadly) occurance, and I'm surprised it doesn't happen everyday.
17 posted on 06/21/2004 2:58:13 PM PDT by lelio
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cannot imagine how hot it's gotta be in AZ

Should be about 103 today. Although it is truth that low humidity helps you get tired of the phrase "it's a dry heat". So's the oven but it still cooks the chicken! lol

18 posted on 06/21/2004 2:59:15 PM PDT by AZamericonnie ("America is too great for small dreams" President Ronald Reagan)
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Maintenance by a utility? What's that?


19 posted on 06/21/2004 3:01:13 PM PDT by Solson ("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
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I'm glad Texas has its own power grid. You never hear about the Texas grid going down.

Not the whole grid but let a bird land on a wire and it'll go out here every time. Don't get me started on the weekly tv cable service's "but it's sun spots" excuses.

20 posted on 06/21/2004 3:01:14 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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