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Major Power-System Losses Hit the Southwest; Grid Operators Avert Westwide Cascading Outages
News Data Corp, California Energy Markets ^
| June 18, 2004
| John Edwards
Posted on 06/21/2004 2:32:44 PM PDT by Robert357
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It is going to be interesting to see what kind of blackout California has this summer. The Cal ISO pulled one out of the fire this time. I am amazed. Maybe with the firing of management and other changes the Cal ISO will get its act together. I hope so. This was a close call, very close, too close!
With Palo Verde down, I expect the California will be even more "on the edge" for the next few weeks.
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:32:47 PM PDT
by
Robert357
To: Robert357; snopercod; Dog Gone; randita; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; lewislynn
While we were all distracted by Enron, some real stuff was happening.
Looks like California avoided a major Blackout one week ago. Strange how I didn't see this covered in the media that was obsessed with Enron? Oh well I guess there isn't much politics in this!!!
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:35:05 PM PDT
by
Robert357
To: Robert357
The last thing we need in AZ in June is for the A/C's to stop running!
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:35:36 PM PDT
by
AZamericonnie
("America is too great for small dreams" President Ronald Reagan)
To: All
Actually switches operate in milliseconds to control the UV. No way could human intervention have prevented this. Good maintenance on sub-station equipment is the key.
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:39:12 PM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
To: AZamericonnie
Major league meltdown if it happened in Missouri. Fortunately, we have plenty of cheap hydro from Lake of the Ozarks and Truman Dam.
To: Robert357; MeekOneGOP
I'm glad Texas has its own power grid. You never hear about the Texas grid going down.
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:41:02 PM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: AZamericonnie
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:41:18 PM PDT
by
Kackikat
To: Robert357; Cindy; JustPiper; StillProud2BeFree; WestCoastGal; freeperfromnj; jerseygirl; ...
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:42:04 PM PDT
by
Calpernia
(When you bite the hand that feeds you, you eventually run out of food.)
To: Robert357
I guess there is something to be said for having to look at these things in my back yard
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:45:01 PM PDT
by
BJungNan
(Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
To: BJungNan
ya and your neighboors will raise HE** with you for the eye sore in your yard.
To: Robert357
And if you have one of these, you don't need to worry about it at all.
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:46:47 PM PDT
by
BJungNan
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To: Paleo Conservative
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:46:54 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
To: Robert357
My mother-in-law works at Palo Verde. She was off work last Monday when the system went down. I teased her that every time she's off work one of the grids goes down. She asked if it had been reported, but apparently the reason the grid went down was because a bird pooped on a line. Big bird, I guess.
To: Robert357
Sounds like a big suck to the West, isn't Palo Verde an export hub?
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:52:35 PM PDT
by
Little Bill
(John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
To: markman46
ya and your neighboors will raise HE** with you for the eye sore in your yard.They are already here. Thousands of them. Not in my yard exactly but close enough to keep the juice flowing in our neighborhood. If you look at the valley floor just below the snow on the peak you can make out the windmills.

Besides, the views are not all bad.
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:54:42 PM PDT
by
BJungNan
(Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
To: AZamericonnie
Heck, it's about 90 today in Reno, NV cannot imagine how hot it's gotta be in AZ!!!
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:56:35 PM PDT
by
BossLady
(What do your choices cost you????)
To: HungarianGypsy
but apparently the reason the grid went down was because a bird pooped on a line. Big bird, I guess.
Where did something similiar like this happen twice in one week to the same grid / line? I think it was an airport.
Does this happen because the gap between the lines is bridged? If so I would think that's a common (albeit deadly) occurance, and I'm surprised it doesn't happen everyday.
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:58:13 PM PDT
by
lelio
To: BossLady
cannot imagine how hot it's gotta be in AZShould be about 103 today. Although it is truth that low humidity helps you get tired of the phrase "it's a dry heat". So's the oven but it still cooks the chicken! lol
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posted on
06/21/2004 2:59:15 PM PDT
by
AZamericonnie
("America is too great for small dreams" President Ronald Reagan)
To: BipolarBob
Maintenance by a utility? What's that?
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posted on
06/21/2004 3:01:13 PM PDT
by
Solson
("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
To: Paleo Conservative
I'm glad Texas has its own power grid. You never hear about the Texas grid going down.Not the whole grid but let a bird land on a wire and it'll go out here every time. Don't get me started on the weekly tv cable service's "but it's sun spots" excuses.
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