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Klein: No 9-11 If Only Clinton "Had Been Free to Fire Freeh"? ("if I had known")
MRC ^ | Monday June 21, 2004 | BrentBaker

Posted on 06/21/2004 8:39:16 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

9-11 Ken Starr's fault? On NBC's Meet the Press, after endorsing Bill Clinton's disgust for Ken Starr ("He makes a very strong case for Starr's abuse of power") and agreeing with Clinton's view of himself more as victim than perpetrator ("My feeling is, that in the end on all this stuff he's more sinned against than sinner"), Time magazine's Joe Klein gave credibility to Clinton's claim that but for the Lewinsky scandal Clinton would have fired FBI Director Louis Freeh, who had proven incompetent in the battle against terrorism. Klein suggested "we might have had a better shot at rolling up those al-Qaeda cells if Bill Clinton had been free to fire Freeh."

In Time itself, Klein called Clinton's case against Starr "powerful."

On Meet the Press, recalling Time's interview conducted last week with Clinton, upon the release of his lengthy tome, My Life, Klein picked up on a finding of the 9-11 Commission about Freeh's supposed poor job on counter-terrorism and expounded, during a roundtable segment: "One of the other things that Clinton told us was that he would have fired Louis Freeh as FBI Director if it hadn't been for the media and for the fact that we would have associated that firing with the investigation of the Lewinsky scandal. Now, that is incredibly damning because from what I can understand, the FBI was entirely incompetent, not doing anything in terms of counter-terrorism over those years. And so in some ways, you could say that we might have had a better shot at rolling up those al-Qaeda cells if Bill Clinton had been free to fire Freeh."

Of course, there would have been no need to fire Freeh if Clinton hadn't hired him. Clinton nominated Freeh in 1993. And what evidence is there that Clinton had any knowledge of Freeh's supposedly bad management on counter-terrorism?

In fact, though Clinton did make the claim that Klein conveyed, his comment to Time magazine was in the "if I had known" form, so he didn't know and therefore would have had no reason to replace Freeh on counter-terrorism grounds. From the Time magazine interview in the June 28 edition:

On why he never fired FBI Director Louis Freeh

If I had known that when we tripled the counterterrorism funds none of it was put into improving the data processing and interconnecting with the CIA and other intelligence agencies, if I had known that the Executive Order I signed fairly early in my Administration ordering the CIA and the FBI to exchange high-level people and cooperate more hadn't been done, I might have done so.

But since the FBI chief gets a presumptive 10-year term, I didn't feel what I thought was outrageous treatment of us, particularly by him personally, was worth replacing him, because all of you [in the media] would have said, Well, he's doing it because he's got something to hide, and I didn't have anything to hide. I knew there was nothing to Whitewater, I knew there was nothing to the Paula Jones case -- Ken Starr could have as many FBI agents as he wanted doing whatever they wanted to do.

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For the Time interview in full, available only to subscribers: http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101040628/story.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clinton; ifihadknown; joeklein; louisfreeh; mylife; whattacrock
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......."if I had known"

Quotes by William Jefferson Clinton:

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Bill Clinton (February 4, 1998)

"If (Saddam) accepts (the UN Resolutions to disarm), force will not be necessary. If he refuses or continues to evade his obligations through more tactics of delay and deception, he and he alone will be to blame for the consequences." - President Bill Clinton (February 17, 1998)

"Well, he (Saddam) will conclude that the international community has lost its will (if they do not act). He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal." - President Bill Clinton (February 17, 1998)

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program. We want to seriously reduce his capacity to threaten his neighbors." - President Bill Clinton (February 17, 1998)

1 posted on 06/21/2004 8:39:17 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Ah, the media's never-ending crusade to salvage Bubba's precious legacy.


2 posted on 06/21/2004 8:42:21 AM PDT by Paul Atreides (Didn't your father tell you that unnecessary excerpting will make you go blind?)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Time for Louis Freeh to write a tell-all book.


3 posted on 06/21/2004 8:43:22 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Didn't the Klintoon's fire all the U.S. attorneys when he took office? So now he's saying he can't get Freeh to resign to "spend more time with his family"?


4 posted on 06/21/2004 8:44:27 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: MamaLucci
Time for Louis Freeh to write a tell-all book.

Thats the one I want to read.
5 posted on 06/21/2004 8:46:34 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: fight_truth_decay
If aliens landed in space ships tomorrow and showed us how to end world hunger, Clinton would make endless claims - against all available evidence - about how he was obsessed with contacting aliens during his presidency. And he would have succeeded, too, if it hadn't been for that mean ol' Kenneth Starr.
6 posted on 06/21/2004 8:48:17 AM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: MamaLucci

Anything that Freeh might write would be better than that offered by Klein. Klein has done his best to prove the old argument that those who write historical novels are of common mind.


7 posted on 06/21/2004 8:49:41 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: fight_truth_decay
But doesn't this really depend on what the definition of "IF" is?
8 posted on 06/21/2004 8:50:39 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: fight_truth_decay

Even if Clinton's (and Klein's) assertions are true, it merely underscores why sexual shenanigans like those of B.J. Clinton can ultimately undermine national security. Defenders of the Toon ("he only lied about sex") used to snicker when conservatives would suggest scenarios whereby a Prez in a compromising position could do this. Well, apparently, the Lewinsky thing accomplished exactly that (at least according to Clinton and Klein


9 posted on 06/21/2004 8:51:12 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: MamaLucci

freeh should never have gotten the job. I would read his tell all book though.


10 posted on 06/21/2004 8:52:41 AM PDT by captaindude2 (Soon to be banned again!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Why did Clinton have the affair? "Because I could."

Why didn't Clinton fire Freeh? "Because I couldn't."

What a small man.

11 posted on 06/21/2004 8:52:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: Starve The Beast
From NYTimes review:
In fact, "My Life" reads like a messy pastiche of everything that Mr. Clinton ever remembered and wanted to set down in print....... There are some revealing complaints about missteps at the FBI under Louis Freeh's watch , but there are also dozens of pointless digressions about matters like zombies in Haiti and ruins in Pompeii....

http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040621.asp

12 posted on 06/21/2004 8:53:24 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
In Time itself, Klein called Clinton's case against Starr "powerful."

Hold on a moment while I laugh my @ss off . . . The disgraced lawyer who lost his license to practice is accusing the prosecutor in this case of "misconduct"? LOL!!!

"One of the other things that Clinton told us was that he would have fired Louis Freeh as FBI Director if it hadn't been for the media and for the fact that we would have associated that firing with the investigation of the Lewinsky scandal."

I agree with Mr. Klein on this one, but my conclusion is different than his: This is precisely why Bill Clinton should have resigned -- because his ability to function as president was effectively compromised.

13 posted on 06/21/2004 8:55:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: fight_truth_decay
Klein suggested "we might have had a better shot at rolling up those al-Qaeda cells if Bill Clinton had been free to fire Freeh."

What about suggesting... "if Bill Clintoon had been anything but a morally bankrupt self-serving rat and paid enough attention to keep his barrel out of the dirt he could have fired freely....." or something like that... :)

14 posted on 06/21/2004 8:57:17 AM PDT by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves..........)
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To: Paul Atreides

I don't think that it is just the legacy that the press is trying to salvage, I think, at this point, that they are also trying to salvage the very expensive, but boring, book that is attempting to salvage the legacy.


15 posted on 06/21/2004 8:57:32 AM PDT by Eva
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To: fight_truth_decay

"Klein suggested "we might have had a better shot at rolling up those al-Qaeda cells if Bill Clinton had been free to fire Freeh."

Again, the "kids" are no longer in control. Thank God.


16 posted on 06/21/2004 8:59:42 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: gathersnomoss
"Klein suggested "we might have had a better shot at rolling up those al-Qaeda cells if Bill Clinton had been free to fire Freeh."


17 posted on 06/21/2004 9:01:20 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: gathersnomoss

Stupid us! We forgot that nothing is ever Bubba's fault.


18 posted on 06/21/2004 9:01:21 AM PDT by Paul Atreides (Didn't your father tell you that unnecessary excerpting will make you go blind?)
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To: Eva
I think it goes deeper than that...it is time for the MEDIA to come to terms that their lying and covering up as well as pushing the lies for Bill Clinton.

...it will be the 8 years of Bill Clinton sandwiched between the 8 years of Reagan and GW Bush (YES he will get 8 years) that will expose the evidence of HOW the media was trying to run itself as another branch of government...

During Clinton's 8 years...Bill decided to replace the "Judical Branch" with the "Media Branch"...and the media doesn't enjoy it's demotion since GW has re-aligned government back to its intended functions...

19 posted on 06/21/2004 9:04:05 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: Eva
I think the press is trying to salvage their own sinking ship. But what do rats do if leaving a sinking ship? They find a new ship or in this case may prefer dignified [sic] suicide to a life in the ruins of their own creation.
20 posted on 06/21/2004 9:07:54 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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