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RED ALERT: Socialist agenda being pushed through the California Legislature

Posted on 06/20/2004 10:15:39 PM PDT by farmfriend

Socialist agenda being pushed through the California Legislature.

ALERT:Hearing scheduled for Sierra Nevada Conservancy bills 6/29/04

AB 2600 (Laird)

SUMMARY : Creates within the Resources Agency the Sierra Nevada Conservancy (Conservancy) to acquire and manage land for various specified public objectives, and to make grants for those purposes, in the Sierra Nevada-Cascade Mountain Region.

AB 1788 (Leslie)

SUMMARY : Creates within the Resources Agency the Sierra Nevada Conservancy (Conservancy) to acquire and manage land for various specified public objectives, and to make grants for those purposes, in the Sierra Nevada Region.

AB 2631 (Wolk)

SUMMARY : Establishes an interagency council (more government bureaucracy) to consider ways to coordinate state efforts to eradicate and control invasive species.


Analysis from the Assembly on AB 2600:

FISCAL EFFECT : According to the Assembly Appropriations Committee analysis:

1.Moderate ongoing costs, about $300,000 annually starting in fiscal year (FY) 2005-06, to the Resources Agency to provide staff and other resources to the Conservancy, payable from the General Fund (GF), Environmental License Plate Fund, Proposition 50 bond proceeds, or some combination thereof.

2.Substantial cost pressures, in the range of $5 million to $10 million annually starting in FY 2005-06, to fund the acquisition of public lands with the Conservancy's jurisdiction, payable from the GF, Proposition 50 bond proceeds, or a future resources bond measure.

They will fund through General Fund support, statewide propositions and other sources.
This scary document outlines the enormous amount of money the conservancy will request, and some ideas about how to get it.

COMMENTS : Pursuant to enactments going back to 1933, with the creation of the Wildlife Conservation Board, the Legislature has recognized the utility of multi-agency entities for land conservation. Since 1973, the Legislature has created eight conservancies in specified areas of the state having similar or related resource conservation objectives. According to the Legislative Analyst's report California's Land Conservation Efforts: The Role of State Conservancies, "Generally, state conservancies are most effective where specific land resources of extraordinary, unique value to the entire state are found to be inadequately protected..." [page 13; emphasis in original].

The Sierra Nevada is a large, distinct region of the state, in terms of its geology, plant communities, wildlife, and climate zones. Its rich natural resources and wide range of recreational opportunities qualifies it as a specific geographic area of exceptional statewide, and arguably global, importance and therefore is, by the Legislative Analyst's criteria, appropriate for protection by a multi-agency conservancy.

According to the Sierra Nevada Conservancy Working Group's July 2002 report, "Sierra Nevada Resource Investment Needs Assessment," the Sierra Nevada supplies 60% of California's water, but 23 of its 24 watersheds are impaired; population is projected to triple between 1990 and 2040 and the accompanying residential development increasingly threatens farms and other working landscapes; annual recreational visit-days are now about 50 million, a 75% increase in the past 15 years; and the region's overall economy is changing rapidly from resource extraction and development to business activities that serve or employ increasing numbers of recreational visitors and retirees and other migrants from areas outside the region.

According to Governor Schwarzenegger's Action Plan for California's Environment" ( www.joinarnold.com/en/agenda ), "The Sierra Nevada Mountain Range [sic] is one of the state's crown jewels. Yet, unlike many of California's other natural treasures, it has no conservancy. As Governor I will propose establishment of a Sierra Nevada Mountains [sic] Conservancy." ,P>

AB 1788 (Leslie) also proposes to create a Sierra Nevada Conservancy. AB 2600 differs from AB 1788 in the following principal respects:

a) AB 2600 defines the western boundary of the Sierra Nevada Region as extending down to about the 500-foot elevation contour, which include small portions of the extreme eastern side of the Central Valley. This western boundary encompasses major lakes and reservoirs and long reaches of the Sierra rivers as they descend through the mountains to the valley floor. The region defined in AB 1788 includes large portions of the eastern portions of the Central Valley and, in Tehama, Fresno, and Kern Counties, it extends across the valley into the Coast Range. The core region defined in AB 1788, where presumably the Conservancy's activities will be concentrated, is significantly smaller than the region defined in AB 2600. In particular, because AB 1788 uses the 1,500-foot elevation contour as the western boundary of the core region, long reaches of the deep canyons of the principal rivers of the Sierra and many lakes and reservoirs situated below that elevation are excluded from the core region;

b) On the governing board proposed in AB 2600, two members are state officials and five are appointees from the general public. On the governing board proposed in AB 1788, 13 of the 20 voting members are supervisors from Sierra counties or residents of the core region. The difference in composition can in part be attributed to whether the Conservancy is perceived as having regional or statewide significance;

c) AB 2600 requires its Conservancy board to act by a simple majority of the total appointed membership, that is, by four of the seven voting members. AB 1788 requires that the Conservancy's executive director be approved by at least 2/3 of the governing board, that is, by 14 of the 20 voting members;

d) AB 2600 requires the Conservancy to cooperate and consult with affected local governments and to base its project priorities on local general plans and recreation plans. AB 1788 instead prohibits the Conservancy from acquiring any property interest or making a grant for that purpose unless it documents the proposed use, management, and financing of management costs of the acquired property. Somewhat inconsistently, AB 1788 makes Conservancy projects and grants subject to all general and specific plans of local governments, which would not necessarily anticipate the management needs of the property to be acquired;

e) AB 2600 has no specific provisions regarding water management and water rights. AB 1788 has detailed provisions, based on the San Gabriel and Lower Los Angeles Rivers and Mountains Conservancy's statute, governing water management and water rights;

f) AB 1788 authorizes the Resources Secretary to resolve any dispute over jurisdiction between the Conservancy and other conservancies. AB 2600 has no comparable provision; and,

g) AB 2600 will become operative on January 1, 2005. AB 1788 does not become operative until the Legislature appropriates funds to carry out the bill or until a bond act is approved that includes an allocation of funds for the purposes of the bill.


Analysis from the legislature itself on AB 2631:

FISCAL EFFECT : Establishes a new state agency with a number of duties and responsibilities to be carried out all over the state. This bill does not identify any source of funding, except what the Legislature may appropriate in the future. There will be a considerable cost to the state of carrying out all the activities and responsibilities addressed in this bill. Presumably, existing programs would be folded into the Council's program, so the funding for those programs could be transferred to the Council, but the scope of the Council's responsibilities as set forth in this bill exceeds the scope of the collective efforts of all the existing agencies and programs.

COMMENTS : This bill apparently arose out of a workshop convened by the Nature Conservancy in January 2003. Participating in the workshop were state and federal officials, universities, industry associations, and non-governmental organizations. The workshop participants came to consensus that there needs to be more efficient coordination of existing activities, as well as a statewide strategy for addressing terrestrial, aquatic, and marine invasive species.

There is a vast number of plant, animal, bird, fish, insect, microbial, and other species that have been either deliberately or unintentionally introduced into California. Most of these non-native species are benign and have brought great benefits to the inhabitants of the state. Most ornamental plants, for instance, are introduced, as well as pets, livestock, game fish, some wildlife, crops, grape vines, fruit trees, forage grasses, etc. Some non-native species, on the other hand, are highly detrimental to the environment, including yellow star-thistle, Zebra mussels, Chinese mitten crabs, pine bark beetles, West Nile Virus, Exotic Newcastle disease, Caulerpa taxifolia, Giant Reed (Arundo donax), tamarisk (saltcedar), Mediterranean fruitfly, and others. A U.S. Environmental Protection Agency report estimates that a new non-native species is introduced into San Francisco Bay from the ballast water of cargo ships every 14 weeks.

The author acknowledges that California has several strong pest prevention and eradication programs. As well, California has a number of committees, interagency panels, and ad hoc working groups that address individual invasive species and threats. The federal government, as well, has many programs to control the interstate or international transportation of invasive species. Although many of these programs have been highly successful, the thesis of this bill is that more could be accomplished if all the efforts of all these groups were coordinated and a statewide strategy adopted. The author argues that the various agencies and other interested groups need to consolidate their joint authorities and coordinate their efforts and their funds.

This bill, however, goes much farther. It authorizes the Council to identify, list, and classify all non-native species in the state. The Council would then be authorized to establish programs to control and eradicate detrimental species. Finally, the Council would be authorized to restore native species that have been crowded out.

As originally introduced, this bill created a vast regulatory, permitting, and enforcement program. This bill has been substantially reduced in scope, but still creates a major new state program. Interested groups have participated in working groups that have re-written much of this bill, but many still have significant concerns.

A major concern is the funding for the program proposed in this bill. Although the funding for all the existing programs would presumably be rolled into funding for the Council, the Council is charged with many powers and duties that go well beyond the powers and duties of the existing agencies and departments. Additional funding would be needed, and probably could not entirely be supported by permit fees. The additional funding would need to come from the General Fund.

Although the underlying idea of better coordinating state (and federal) efforts to fight invasive species and developing a statewide strategy is a good one, this bill goes far beyond that goal. To carry out all the requirements of this bill would require a large bureaucratic structure with a full-time professional staff.


An Analysis of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Environmental Policy

A Sierra umbrella? - Conservancy proposed to protect mountain range

CA freepers, RED ALERT RED ALERT!!!

CA freepers, RED ALERT Thread 2

CA: Sierra Conservancy bills seek funding for range

Socialist who are pushing this legislation.


Newsletter for the California Association of Business, Property and Resource Owners (CABPRO)
Volume 10, Number 3 - April, 2004
Page 5

Sierra Nevada Conservancy

State legislation has been introduced to again attempt to create a Sierra Nevada Conservancy. Two bills are now pending in the State Assembly, with a hearing on both set for April 19 in Sacramento with the Assembly Natural Resources Committee. Assemblyman Tim Leslie (R-Tahoe City) introduced AB 1788 on January 5.

Assemblyman John Laird (DSanta Cruz) introduced AB 2600 on February 20. Both bills establish a new state agency known as the Sierra Nevada Conservancy, covering numerous counties but excluding the Lake Tahoe region (it already has a conservancy). The Conservancy would have powers to acquire private land or interests.

In AB 1788, the Conservancy’s operations would be funded either as part of the State Budget or as bond acts allocate monies. In AB 2600, $30 million from Prop 50 would be its funding source. Another notable difference between the two bills is that AB 1788 requires "a resolution in support of that acquisition and the land management plan applicable to the acquisition has been approved by the county or city that exercises general planning authority and jurisdiction over that parcel." (Section 33351 (c)) CABPRO asked for that when the first Sierra Nevada Conservancy bill was working its way through Sacramento in 2002! However, AB 2600 does not seek support from the local jurisdiction. There are other differences as well. These differences will be presented in the next issue of our newsletter.

Partly as a result of increasing acquisitions for open space and other preservation purposes, Field Director Pat Davison has written a discussion draft supporting property tax reimbursement back to the counties when these private parcels or development rights are taken off the tax rolls. The concept entails adding an additional amount onto the purchase price that represents a one-time lump sum to be given to the affected county.

Although the federal government has a program in place to "pay" counties an amount per acre of federal lands (i.e. PILT = Payment In Lieu of Taxes), the state has no such program. So when expansion of Donner State Park or South Yuba State Park occurs, the state pays the property owner for the land but there is no payment or consideration given to the county that had previously received property tax income from the land.

Some opposition to that concept has arisen, based on the potential that the neighboring property tax value increases because the adjacent property now abuts open space.

No quantification of that potential increase has been done in Nevada County. Also, the suggestion that increased tourism, and more tax revenue, will result from more open space has not been quantified at the local level either.

Your CABPRO Board will be discussing our position on both Conservancy bills and the "property tax reimbursement" concept at future meetings.

Contact the office if you want a copy of the "property tax reimbursement" discussion draft, or download it from our website.


Supes say no Nature Conservancy
Apr 19, 2004
By Ami Ridling, Staff Writer
Plumas County news on-line

Does the Sierra Nevada region need a state-mandated conservancy to direct the management of, and hold the power to conserve, public lands? The Plumas County Board of Supervisors does not think so, and they will do everything in their power to stop a conservancy from forming.

Two controversial bills, AB1788, authored by Republican Assemblyman Tim Leslie, and AB 2600, authored by Democrat Assemblyman John Laird, are currently making their way through the legislature. If one or both are passed, the Sierra Nevada Conservancy will be born.

At their April 13 meeting, the supervisors voted in favor of writing a letter opposing the two bills to the state.

"These (conservancy) groups are our enemy," said Supervisor Bill Dennison. He said the bills would impose on private property owners' rights.

Supervisor Robert Meacher suggested that Dennison, who will write and send the letter of opposition, be careful with the words he uses in his message. He said that "tact" is necessary in this situation, especially since Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger himself has fueled the bills.

AB 1788 and AB 2600 are similar. The main differences in the two bills are that AB 2600 would not allow for local representation on the Sierra Nevada Conservancy governing board. AB1788, however, calls for two supervisors from each of the five Sierra Nevada subregions, to sit on the governing board.

For more on this story, along with other local stories and features, please see this week's printed newspaper. To subscribe, use the form on this Web site or call 530-283-0800.


Los Angeles Times
June 5, 2004
EDITORIAL: A Jewel Worth Protecting

When Arnold Schwarzenegger campaigned for governor last fall, he called the Sierra Nevada "one of the state's crown jewels" and said that if he was elected he would support establishment of a Sierra Nevada conservancy. The Sierra deserves all superlatives, but it is an asset under stress. The governor should fulfill his promise this year.

The Assembly has passed AB 2600 by Assemblyman John Laird (D-Santa Cruz) to create a Sierra conservancy within the state Resources Agency. It would be similar to eight other such groups established by the Legislature since 1973, including the Santa Monica Mountains, the Coastal and the Lake Tahoe conservancies. These organizations identify and work to conserve wildlife habitat, watersheds, historic and cultural areas and open space. They may use state bond funds or grants from nonprofit foundations to purchase prime private lands threatened by development.

(snip)

The natural resources that make the region so attractive to both new residents and new businesses need protection. Too many areas, including the Mammoth Lakes region, could succumb to the syndrome of "loving it to death," awaking too late to the need for regional planning and protection of resources.

Both the Laird and Leslie bills passed and went to the Senate, which should work out an acceptable compromise on the issue of local participation. Then the governor could sign the legislation in a ceremony beside a sparkling creek and meadow abutting lofty spires of Sierra granite. Everyone could proclaim victory.


Government land by state
All values are in thousands (000's) of acres except %'s.

California - Total area of the state 99,822.70
Total Area Owned by State and Federal Gov'ts 52,085.90
% of State's Total Area 52.1%
Owned by Federal Gov't. 49,842.30
% of State's Tot. Area 49.9%
Owned by State 2,243.60
% of State's Tot. Area 2.2%


The following information was taken from a new publication entitled "Managing Federal Forests in the 21st Century" and published by American Forest & Paper Association, Washington DC 20036. The following facts can be and should be shared with co-workers, your family and your neighbors. It's high time for us in the timber industry to educate people about the importance of our forests and how public policy is threatening our very livelihood.

How much land is forested in the U.S.?
About a third. The total U.S. land area is more than 2 billion acres. Forested acres in the U.S. total 747 million acres. 192 million of them are in the National Forest System.

Who owns America's forests?
Federal, state and local government agencies own 37%. The forest product industry owns 9%. The remaining 54% of America's forests are owned by private citizens.

Are all National Forest System lands available for timber harvesting?
No. 75% of our national forest system is intentionally set aside for non-commercial uses and is not managed for timber or other resource production.

Is tree growth outpacing timber harvesting in the U.S.?
Yes. In 1996, the last year for which complete figures are available, net forest growth exceeded harvest in every region of the U.S.

What is the greatest threat to federal forests?
Disease, insect infestations and catatsrophic wildfire exacerbated by conflicting policies and mandates and frivolous lawsuits brought by several national environmental groups paralyzing federal land managers.

Who should be concerned about the forest health crisis on public lands?
Every American. It is not just people who live in and around national forests who are at risk. Recreational opportunities for all of us are threatened, wildlife habitat is threatened and whether they realize it or not, every American depends on the forests for clean drinking water and clean air.


My letter to the editor of the Sacramento Bee.

I read the article on the next round of the poisoning of Lake Davis (Lake Davis on hook again, May 31, 2004) dreading what it portends for the rest of the state. This will soon be the standard.

AB 2631 is an invasive species bill that has passed the Assembly and is now in the Senate. The intent is to go after mitten crabs and star thistle. The implications are much worse.

Are we going to go after barred owls that are displacing the spotted owl? How about the wild horses roaming the arid areas? Are we going to change our policy on coho salmon? Archeology shows these fish are not native to CA. What about all those eucalyptus trees? Shall we cut them all?

And the budget! How is the creation of a whole new bureaucracy going to effect that?

And to those who think that the ESA took their property rights away, wait until you can’t build that dream house or plow that field or graze those cattle because they want to promote some native grass, endangered or not.


Find your State Senator here.


Here is a short list of the issues with the sierra conservancy.

1. It puts all private property under control of an unelected body.
2.More than 90% of the land in some counties is owned by the state or federal government. More government control will restrict economic use of private property and likely bankrupt small counties.
3. The board members are appointed, and do not answer to the public and cannot be voted out of office if they harm individual property owners.
4. The conservancy effective merges 20 counties which is unconstitutional-- only the legislature and a vote by citizens can alter county lines.
5. Merging counties and putting control over private land under an unelected board is not only unconsitutional, it mimics the failed system of the soviet union-- this comment was made by an aide to Assemblyman Leslie.
6. The board would be able to redraw parcel boundaries and change property lines taking away constitutional protections for the landowner and changing our system of government from a constitutional government to one by fiat.
7. The conservancy can buy and sell property like a real estate agent. They can buy property and give it to other conservancies, whether or not the public agrees with the policies of that conservancy or their politics-- the public has no say.
8. The conservancy will control economic use of private property through their "working lands" program.
9. The land owner only has 45 days to respond to the conservancy, if the conservancy has indicate that their property is desired for the conservancy.
10. The conservancy will set up a duplicate water quality management program wasting tax money and making the government unnavigatable by the average citizen. If you have a problem or complaint, which bureacracy do you go to? Why is another bureacracy necessary?
11. The conservancy will require $30 million out of the genreral fund just to get started. This from a state that was insovlent a few months ago and requiered a $15 billion bond from a governor who promised "no new taxes".
12. The conservancy will have its own bank account and own portfolio, making it immune from budgeting and cost reduction strategies guaranteed by our constituion.
13. The government should not be able to use taxpayer money to fund a group that will take public lands away from the public by locking them up "for future generations". This again is a techinique of the failed soviet union to give powers to cronies. In fact the whole conservancy idea reeks of cronism.


TOPICS: Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab1788; ab2600; arnold; ca; california; conservancy; environment; government; landgrab; legislation; natureconservancy; sierraconservancy; sierranevada; socialist
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To: farmfriend

BTTT


81 posted on 06/21/2004 7:54:51 PM PDT by tertiary01 (The Dems reward NO virtues, only vices)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

That Arizona was admitted under such terms violates both the Equal footing doctrine and the principal of State citizenship, not to mention States' rights. IIRC, it's even worse in Nevada.


82 posted on 06/21/2004 8:00:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: SteveH

Your name sounded familiar. How are you doing?


83 posted on 06/21/2004 8:10:00 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul ("In answer to what we promised, the infidel got his fair treatment"Al-Qaeda to wife tearful pleading)
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To: backtothestreets

>>>political bosses will disperse mineral and land usage rights to their own special interests

Water! 65% of the State's water (and much of western Nevada) comes from the Sierra Nevada.


84 posted on 06/21/2004 8:17:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Carry_Okie

Thanks for the link. Interesting reading.


85 posted on 06/21/2004 9:08:45 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: farmfriend

These places would be considered places where you can start fires easily, wouldn't they?

Could be lot's of restrictions on private property could happen. Maybe they will make private places pay to have water mains brought up for firetrucks.

Maybe they will come up with huge fines for things like abandoned cars, and things that could be fuel for a fire on your property.

What is the fear, because even in the suburbs lots of folks face restrictions of all kinds?


86 posted on 06/21/2004 9:08:47 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: farmfriend

...BUMP !!!

87 posted on 06/21/2004 9:17:43 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (LIBERAL: One who can always be relied upon to give someone ELSE the shirt off of your back.)
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To: SteveH

Check my post #3 on this thread.


88 posted on 06/21/2004 9:18:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: farmfriend

Thank you farmfriend for your extensive efforts to bring this to the light of day!!


89 posted on 06/21/2004 9:21:10 PM PDT by tertiary01 (The Dems reward NO virtues, only vices)
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To: BJungNan
BECAUSE IT'S HUGE!!!

The damned thing takes up 1/3rd of a huge state!!!

Besides it's time to stop these frauds!!!

Thanks for the nice list.

90 posted on 06/21/2004 9:23:46 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan taught us to be Classy, Considerate Conservatives, not conservatives without class!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yes. Arizona was held at arm's length long after it should have been admitted, because of a scandal involving members of Congress and railroad bonds issued by the territory for a spur line that was supposed to be built from Tucson to somewhere. The man who was supposed to build the line absconded with the money he got to build the line, and congressmen demanded their money back. The territory refused, and it was a long standoff that kept Arizona out of the union until 1912.


91 posted on 06/21/2004 9:25:22 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Freepmail me if you'd like to read one of my Christian historical romance novels!)
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To: calcowgirl
You are right to point to the water rights swirling around the Sierra Nevada Mountains. The politicians that take control of water, control agriculture, growth, and ultimately, the state.

Have we digressed to a point where having a country fit for raising families is now primarily a place for raising corporations?

Raising a family was once regarded as the pinnacle of achievement. Over the years government applied pressures that made raising a family difficult. In the last 30 years, I've seen corporations add to the difficulty. Both the government and corporation are equally invasive in the daily lives of individuals. Both the government and corporations are feeding off the labors of individuals. Both the government and corporations decide the course of the country. Both the government and corporations live and thrive at the expense of families.

Whatever the politicians cannot accomplish with government, they give to corporations to accomplish. I was sent a link today that hit this note with me. It's titled LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER: Bush to screen population for mental illness (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39078)

Imagine, corporal punishment which was known to correct bad behavior when properly applied is going to be replaced with a government culture that teaches kids to use drugs. To top this off, the government will probably require all schools, public and private to participate or lose tax advantages or grants.

I can envision a time when the government issues drugs throughout the population to keep the people in line.

Something has to be thrown over the side of the ship, and it's not tea.
92 posted on 06/21/2004 9:37:07 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: calcowgirl
The entities I listed are managing land trusts where the beneficiary of the trust is the state.

Typically the state comes in and tells home owners they are going to take the land and their homes, paying them for it of course, to make a state park.

The deal that gets worked out so these people do not get booted out of their homes is they agree to put their land in a trust that stipulates in 100 years the state will get the land. They get to live out there years there. But, since it is a trust, you lose some immediate control of your land to a trust management board that tells you want you can and can not do on the land (no taking firewood, no erecting fences, no altering the landscape, no additions to the home, etc, etc.

If you want to call this "private" fine, but in effect it is the same and you are only playing with semantics.

My first experience with such land trusts was over 20 years ago in Trinidad, CA on a stretch of coastline known as Moonstone Beach. The State Dept. of Parks and Recreation was going to take 24 homes I believe it was. The land trust that was worked out I believe was one of the first (others may have better information on the history of these trusts prior to Trinidad).

Again, call it what you will and refer to the one you are fighting now as the biggest, socialism or whatever. But this has been going on for a long time and a great deal of land, homes and lives have been affected.

93 posted on 06/21/2004 10:13:26 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
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To: backtothestreets

Your post brings dark images to my mind (both current and future). Your questions and projections are thought provoking and certainly not outside the realm of possibility. So... if not a tea pary, then what?

>>>Something has to be thrown over the side of the ship, and it's not tea.

Agreed!


94 posted on 06/21/2004 10:14:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SierraWasp
Here is a bit more information on Land Trust Philosophy.

Local land trusts have protected more than 6.2 million acres - an area roughly twice the size of Connecticut - and each year protect an average of 500,000 additional acres. Despite the growing effectiveness of land trusts, more than eight square miles of agricultural and natural lands are lost to development every day - a total of two million acres every year.

At this rate, we have about 20 years to protect our most cherished landscapes before they will be lost forever. Due to tightening budget and political constraints on government land acquisitions, land trusts will be called upon to play a greater role in the conservation of private land.

95 posted on 06/21/2004 10:14:55 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
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To: BJungNan

Generally, I don't disagree with anything you wrote... I believe in the case of the conservancy's established under the Resources Agency, the taxing authority does indeed put them in a different category though.

Your post gave me the impression that you believe since there are many land trusts, and it has been going on some time, that this new conservancy isn't the monstrosity it is.

When you keep getting pushed toward the edge of the cliff, do you let them keep pushing til you fall off? Or do you push back and stop them?

I'm for pushing back and saying NO. It is certainly worth trying! The Sierra Nevada covers over 20% of California. It provides 65% of the State's water supply. These should be huge issues to all Californians. Writing a few letters and making a few phone calls is a small task to try to retain a bit of our freedom. Will you write? Will you call?


96 posted on 06/21/2004 10:23:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
"Your post brings dark images to my mind (both current and future). Your questions and projections are thought provoking and certainly not outside the realm of possibility. So... if not a tea pary, then what?

>>>Something has to be thrown over the side of the ship, and it's not tea.

Agreed!"

I don't know.  I know what answers I dislike.  I don't want a wholesale change of leadership.  I can't begin to imagine what sort of troubles that would heap upon us.  I also believe some people in government are honorable.  I also don't want to see people have to arm themselves to take back what is rightfully theirs, and that is government itself.  I'd like to see a real spokesman of the people arise and lead the charge that ushers in laws that limit ALL special interests.  There are conflicts of interest occurring all around us, and most are allowed because laws have been passed to permit the practice, regardless of how unsavory the practice may be.

My questions are:

Can an honorable individual be elected without the money of special interests?  Can a grassroots effort do what money cannot?  Even if such an individual were elected, would the corporate media giants give an earnest accounting?  Can a single candidate have an impact?  Is the answer working within the existing major political party or a third party?  Could a third party even begin to grapple with the complexities of government the two parties have created to their own selfish whims?

While the nation is transfixed with the differences between the two major parties, the vast majority of laws enacted have the stamp of approval of both parties.  Thanks to the media, both liberal and conservative, people are only paying attention to the few items the parties fight over.  No one is looking at the whole picture to see the unity of self-serving practices the parties adopt together.  I don't believe we're watching two parties move different directions.  I think they're moving the same direction, hand-in-hand, but with slightly differing objectives.  Without a doubt in my mind, they are both looking to control the population.

I also know this.  I want a government that is truly limited, not government that uses corporations as hired guns to accomplish the dirty deeds of politicians.  And I don't want a return to government that uses government agencies to tackle those deeds either.  There has to be a solution.  God help us.

97 posted on 06/21/2004 11:29:22 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: farmfriend; SierraWasp; forester; hedgetrimmer
Here's an article I didn't see before... I wonder who the "business owners" are that are so in favor of this thing. The article makes it sound as if the Farm Bureau is the only group opposed!

And, my favorite quote:

Sierra Nevada Conservancy:
"It has no regulatory authority," Martin said. "All it really does is give money away."

Sierra Nevada Conservancy in the works

Gregory Crofton, gcrofton@tahoedailytribune.com
June 11, 2004

The California Farm Bureau Federation is against it, but Gov. Schwarzenegger, business owners and Assemblyman Tim Leslie support it.

Two bills have been introduced, one by Leslie, R-Tahoe City, that would create a conservancy to dole out money for projects that protect the 400-mile stretch of pristine mountain country that is the Sierra Nevada.

The region encompasses a third of the state and supplies about 65 percent of its drinking water, according to The Sierra Fund, a nonprofit group in Nevada City fighting to establish the conservancy.

Tahoe has had its own conservancy since 1984. With funds generated through public bonds, California Tahoe Conservancy delivers about $20 million a year in grant money to local governments on the California side of the Lake Tahoe Basin. The money is spent to conserve land as open space, install drainage systems that will help protect Lake Tahoe, and improve recreation.

A bill to create a Sierra Nevada conservancy, which would not eliminate the California Tahoe Conservancy, failed two years ago after Gov. Davis vetoed it.

This time around, legislation to create the organization has momentum because Gov. Schwarzenegger has said he wants to see the conservancy, the state's ninth, established during the first year of his term. The bills were approved by the Assembly last month.

The Senate Natural Resource Committee is expected to act on one or both bills - Assemblyman John Laird, D-Santa Rosa, introduced the other bill - when it meets June 22.

Leslie has been working closely with the state Resources Agency to make sure all the spending power doesn't fall into the lap of the state, according to Jedd Medefind, Leslie's chief of staff.

"From Assemblyman Leslie's perspective, local communities need to have a strong voice not only to ensure they are not taken advantage of but also to ensure that most effective conservation is carried out," Medefind said. "Effective conservation is built on collaboration not imposition."

Medefind said that Leslie is not against combining his bill with Laird's, but if local communities fail to adequately be represented in whatever bill gets heard, Leslie will "fight actively against" the creation of a conservancy for the Sierra Nevada.

California Farm Bureau Federation opposes both bills because the conservancy would mean less privately owned land and deprive local government of property tax revenue.

"Over 70 percent of the Sierra Nevada is already owned by the government," said John Gamper, director of taxation and land use for the California Farm Bureau Federation. "If they continue to acquire private land it will eventually take its toll ... and mean a loss of tax base. We think it is not a good idea, especially during very difficult fiscal times, for the state to create another state bureaucracy."

Elizabeth Martin, of The Sierra Fund, has pushed for the creation of a Sierra Nevada Conservancy for almost five years and says she is confident the governor will approve the legislation this year.

"It has no regulatory authority," Martin said. "All it really does is give money away.


98 posted on 06/22/2004 12:54:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: farmfriend; All
I received the below email from Tim Leslie this morning... (presumably in response to my earlier letter to the Governor, copies of which I sent to Tim Leslie, and posted on an earlier thread.)

Maybe others received this message also, but if not, I thought some of you who are perhaps more knowledgeable, and more perceptive than I am in these matters, might be better able to read between the lines... It appears to me that it may have been cobbled together in a hurry... Perhaps it represents an opportunity...? ...with a small time-window? To me, it suggests that he is looking for public support for his efforts to at least place a strong 'leash' on this monster which the Governor and the legislature seem bound and determined to create.


I'd appreciate your thoughts.



-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie, Tim [mailto:Tim.Leslie@asm.ca.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:15
Subject: Seeking Your Perspective


Dear Sierra Friends,

I am seeking your thoughts.

As you know, I am carrying AB 1788, which would create a Sierra Nevada
Conservancy.

A state conservancy is an agency that delivers state funds to areas of
special value, such as Lake Tahoe or the California Coast. It makes grants
and undertakes projects for a wide range of efforts, from acquisition of
habitat to fire prevention and economic development. Unlike entities such
as the "Coastal Commission" or the T.R.P.A., a conservancy does not have any
power to regulate lands.

As a staunch defender of private property rights and local control, I
approached the idea of a Sierra Nevada Conservancy with trepidation. Most
current state conservancies work in a friendly, cooperative manner with
landowners and local communities. Still, if a conservancy board were to
become dominated by activists, it could become yet one more tool of those
who have little respect for Sierra residents or our values.

Despite my concerns, I decided to introduce AB 1788 for two primary reasons.
First, Governor Schwarzenegger stated clearly that he intends to create a
Sierra Nevada Conservancy. Second, the California Legislature is ready,
willing, and able to create a conservancy that leaves local communities with
no say in conservancy decisions.

It appeared almost certain that there would be a Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
One question remained: "What kind of conservancy would it be?"

I have been working to ensure that the conservancy remains the right kind of
conservancy. It must guarantee strong local influence in conservancy
decisions, while also honoring legitimate state interests.

In my negotiations with the Schwarzenegger Administration and my Democrat
colleague, Assemblyman John Laird, we appear to be nearing a point of
agreement.

I have heard from many of you already. However, I would greatly value your
thoughts at this critical juncture. Although I have given conditional
support to the provision below, the

Remember, many of the provisions noted below do not represent what I would
view as ideal. They are the result of intense give-and-take negotiations. I
did not receive every condition I sought; even so, I did gain some important
provisions. I believe this may be the very best we can hope for, providing
strong local influence in the conservancy decision-making process.

For those who remain opposed, I certainly identify with your concerns. Just
bear one final thought in mind. Under current law, the state often carries
out its conservation efforts with little or no local input. Activists and
bureaucrats in Sacramento call the shots with little regard for those who
live, work, and raise their families in the Sierra. Not only is this
profoundly contrary to American principles of government, but it also
undercuts effective conservation by failing to draw from the perspectives,
volunteerism, and commitment of local communities.

A well-designed conservancy would change all this. Decisions would no
longer be made in "smoke-filled rooms," but by a board with strong
representation from the Sierra. Local perspectives and priorities would
carry an influence not seen in decades.

Certainly, the conservancy might still carry out some activities we would
find objectionable, but much less so than at present. In addition, local
priorities like parks, trails, public access, economic development, and fire
prevention would receive increased attention. In the end, I believe the
residents of the Sierra - both present and future generations - would be
much better off than under the status quo.

Please review the following details and reply to this e mail as soon as is
possible. I would greatly value your input.

Sincerely,

Tim Leslie
Assemblyman, 4th District


DETAILS OF CURRENT PROPOSAL

STATED GOALS OF THE CONSERVANCY
(a) Provide increased opportunities for tourism and recreation.
(b) Protect, conserve, and restore the region's physical, cultural,
archaeological , and historical resources.
(c) Reduce the risk of natural disasters, such as fire.
(d) Protect water quality from degradation.
(e) Assist the local economy, including providing increased economic
opportunities.
(f) Identify the highest priority projects and initiatives for which
funding is needed.
(g) Undertake efforts to enhance public use and enjoyment of lands owned
by the public.
(h) Support efforts that advance both environmental preservation and the
economic well-being of Sierra residents in a complimentary manner.
(i) Aid the preservation of working landscapes.

CONSERVANCY BOARD
13 Members
6 Locally-elected supervisors appointed by their fellow supervisors
5 Gubernatorial appointments, including the Director of Finance and the
Secretary of Resources
1 Senate Appointment
1 Assembly Appointment
*I am currently seeking to ensure that one of the five Gubernatorial
appointments is an elected official from within the Sierra.

CONSERVANCY BOUNDARIES
In addition to the Sierra proper, the Administration intends to
include the portion of the Cascade Mountains watershed that drains southwest
into the Central Valley.
The conservancy's western boundary will be at approximately 500 feet in
elevation.
In order to make sure funds are not inordinately directed to the
lower, more populated areas, language will be included that reads, "The
board shall make every effort to ensure that over time conservancy funding
and other efforts are spread equitably across the various sub-regions and
among the stated goal areas, with adequate allowance for the variability of
costs associated with individual regions and types of projects."

CONSERVANCY LIMITATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS
--No powers of imminent domain.
--No regulatory authority
--All business shall be conducted in accordance with the requirements of the
Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act
--The conservancy shall hold meetings throughout the Sierra to receive local
input and identify local funding priorities.
--All efforts and projects shall be undertaken based upon consultation with
locally-elected officials and local agencies.
--No land shall be acquired unless the means of and funding for appropriate
management of that property have been identified.
--With any proposed land acquisition project with a value of $250,000 or
higher, the locally-elected agency with land use planning authority will
have the ability to file an "objection" to the proposed acquisition. In the
event of an "objection," the conservancy will be able to proceed only with a
2/3rds vote of the board. (**Note: A five-year "sunset" has been suggested
for this important provision. I will stand absolutely opposed to any
proposal that contains a sunset on this provision, no matter how long the
period.)
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99 posted on 06/22/2004 1:38:15 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (LIBERAL: One who can always be relied upon to give someone ELSE the shirt off of your back.)
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To: farmfriend

I backed McClintock.

I'm a Republican


100 posted on 06/22/2004 3:06:58 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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