CA: Governor gets cash at record pace

Sac Bee ^ | 6/20/04 | Margaret Talev

[Carry_Okie]

You sound like one of those anti-capitalism anarchsyndicalists.

No, I'm against political corruption.

Davis got money from energy because they were bribed and blackmailed. That is what his whole "pay to play" sceme was about.

Arnold got his start in politics the same way through Wilson's people. Wilson was pretty dirty too, or have you forgotten how we got MTBE?

Arnold is getting money from these groups because he is making it safe to do business in California again.

Because he's made it clear to whom one has to go to get favors. That's what the tent and the cigars are for.

These guys are doing it because they actually want to support Arnold in his good work.

ROTFLMAO! With Terry Tamminen in charge of the CAL/EPA he has the perfect gate-keeper.

[FairOpinion]

"Arnold is selling exactly what Californians want: a new brand of Republicanism with all the free market optimism and fiscal restraint, but without the baggage."

Exactly right. I was getting tired of explaining the same obvious thing over and over and over again to those who valiantly continue to ignore the facts.

"None are so blind, that will not see".

[counterpunch]

Ted Kennedy, Maria's uncle and Arnold are close, get real...he's married to Maria Kennedy Shriver..

And Mary Matalin is married to James Carville, and yet W. still lets her into the White House.

Get real indeed.

[counterpunch]

Just remember, 99% of the Arnold-bashers are from out-of-state.

Not surprisingly, they all hate California anywys, and would prefer us to drop into the ocean. Certainly don't have California's best interests in mind.

[Carry_Okie]

FairOpinion must be brushing up on her freepmail list.

[counterpunch]

There's another web forum for Republican conspiracy theories.

[FairOpinion]

"FairOpinion must be brushing up on her freepmail list."

Wrong, as usual.

[Carry_Okie]

Just remember, 99% of the Arnold-bashers are from out-of-state.

Not on this forum newbie. Fifth generation Californian here.

[Kackikat]

I have no desire to debate this, but Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, a Robt Kennedy daughter was governor of Maryland for several years...and still in politics, as are many others.
So it isn't important who is right or wrong, lets just be good republicans. Have a great day!

[Carry_Okie]

I've busted you so many times for your BS that it isn't worth the comment.

[counterpunch]

Thank you.

I believe just by being governor Arnold wil bring out a million+ votes for Bush.
Not only has he made it safe to do business in California and is bring business back to the state, but he's also made it safe to be a Republican again, and Republicans are slowly coming out of hiding here.

[counterpunch]

Not on this forum newbie. Fifth generation Californian here.
You're part of the 1%.

[FairOpinion]

"Not on this forum newbie. Fifth generation Californian here."

And apparently you still hadn't figured out California reality.

[counterpunch]

When I said "are there any Kennedys left?", that was facetious and purely rhetorical. It weas meant to illustrate the point that they are not the politically powerful family they once were. All those Kennedy kids are jokes, and none of them have any prominence, except perhaps through marriage. Besides Arnold, Cumo comes to mind.

As far as just being "good republicans", you are absolutely right. I am pretty tired of defending my Republican governor to other Republicans, of all people. I have a full plate of defending him against Democrats already. I sure wish people around here would stopping aiding and abeiting the Democrats in their assaults on Republicans, and instead start observing Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment.

[calcowgirl]

The difference between Schwarzenegger and Davis, Bustamante, and yes, even McClintock is that Arnold's money if coming directly from the people of the state he has inspired.

You are sorely misinformed. As Carry Okie posted, the money comes from Real estate interests, Wall Street bankers, energy interests, ag interests, etc, those who directly benefit from Arnold's actions. He is no different than Davis in that regard; there are just a different set of players at the table.

Your unwillingness to engage in honest discussion, instead defending anything that Schwarzenegger does is getting tiresome. Your comments yesterday trying to paint Arnold as anything other than the social liberal he admitted he is were laughable.

And yes... I live in California. My family has been here since WW I.

Your writing style seems familiar, yet you just signed up at FR in December 2003, long after the Recall election. Perhaps you used to post under another name?

[Hildy]

It's also what he plans to do with the money. So far, Schwartzenegger has used money for commercials to help his ideas. I think he's going to need to do that from time to time. Arnold is my hero.

[counterpunch]

It's also what he plans to do with the money. So far, Schwartzenegger has used money for commercials to help his ideas. I think he's going to need to do that from time to time. Arnold is my hero.

That's right. Arnold uses his campaign money to go directly to the people, to write and then promote propositions to be voted on through direct democracy. That is how he governs.

He isn't out there trying to hoist a narrow unpopular agenda on the people against their will, unlike most politicians.

When he said he wanted to be the governor of all the people, he really meant it. It is quite a breath of fresh air, especially out here in California. He should be a political inspiration to all.

[counterpunch]

You are sorely misinformed. As Carry Okie posted, the money comes from Real estate interests, Wall Street bankers, energy interests, ag interests, etc, those who directly benefit from Arnold's actions. He is no different than Davis in that regard; there are just a different set of players at the table.

Aren't these the same people contributing to George Bush?
Be careful what you say...

Is it any surprise that the people who will profit from a revived California economy are supporting Arnold?
They like what Arnold is doing, because he is bringing prosperity back to the state, and creating a business environment that they can once again operate within.
It's the free-market at work. Perhaps you've heard of it?

The difference between Davis and Schwarzenegger is pretty clear. It's about how they play the game. It doesn't matter if some of these contributors also gave to Davis. They did because he used threats against them if they didn't. He was "pay to play". Don't you understand that?

Arnold is getting contribution for an entirely different reason: because business in California profits from his policies. The same reason why George Bush has his national contributors.

[speekinout]

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, a Robt Kennedy daughter was governor of Maryland for several years...and still in politics,

Wrong. She was Lt. Gov. She ran for Gov. 2 years ago, and lost by a pretty big margin. And this in a state whose last GOP Gov. was Spiro Agnew.
I think it's safe to say that she's out of politics.

[Kackikat]

You are correct on the Lt. Governor, seems I forgot to put in Lt., however just because someone loses an election...don't think they won't stop trying. Gephart moved states to find a place to get elected.

You can have this one, I really don't think this trivia is worth arguing about.