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Another Zimbabwe?
Washington Times ^

Posted on 06/20/2004 5:05:56 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:42:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

BENONI, South Africa - Daan Duvenage shook his head as he gazed over the wood-and-tin shacks where 40,000 squatters have established homes on a 140-acre swath of his farm.

"I can't go in there," he said of the warren of homes, streets and shops where he once grew hay for his cattle. "Too dangerous for me. They know who I am."


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africawatch; southafrica

1 posted on 06/20/2004 5:05:56 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"I don't think the country has a problem with racial animosity. Race relations are basically sound. So far, we have done astonishingly well. ... No, our government, at the moment, is not in the business of orchestrating land invasions," he (Mr. Kane-Berman) said."

That's a hoot!

They don't call Africa the dark continent for nothing.

2 posted on 06/20/2004 5:47:04 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The SA media and academia have to toe the ANC party line, so don't expect any facts from them. SA is on slippery slope...


3 posted on 06/20/2004 6:00:47 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I have to tell you, if I were a white farmer in Africa, I'd be outta there. You cannot build a house on a shifting foundation. Even for those whose rights are not being violated now...their time is clearly coming.


4 posted on 06/20/2004 7:35:35 AM PDT by blanknoone
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Regardless of all the utopian liberal propaganda, reality will always offer that cold hard slap to the face.


5 posted on 06/20/2004 8:12:24 AM PDT by junta
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...Kaspaas Pohl and his brothers ... employing 35 family members and more than 2,000 black workers ... has built a four-room elementary school for his workers' children ... provides farm housing, with water and electricity, that would be considered substandard in suburban Washington but is luxurious in most of the developing world ... is a warm and hospitable host — if one can stomach the incessant racist commentary and jokes.
• It seems like he's doing-right by his employees even if he has his own opinions - or maybe this Washington Times author has a bias?
6 posted on 06/20/2004 8:54:27 AM PDT by solitas ("HA HA!" (Nelson Muntz))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

40,000 squatters--they've turned a productive farm that fed many into an unproductive shanty town slum that will require others to feed them. Out of Africa....


7 posted on 06/20/2004 9:05:06 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Clive

ping


8 posted on 06/20/2004 9:07:31 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It is time for white South Africans to leave Africa for greener pastures just like their forefathers left Europe.

Staying in such a place not only ruins their own lives but also condemns their children and grandchildren to a horrible future.

9 posted on 06/20/2004 9:15:53 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: blanknoone

The white farmers need to leave. Maybe they should be seeking asylun in the U.S. They are being stripped of their land and can no longer provide food. Thus the native black people are starving, now that is intelligent.


10 posted on 06/20/2004 9:19:06 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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'Reverse apartheid'

Nah, just a criminalistic spoils system. I remember reading years ago that some level of bureacracy was being paid more
that the VP of the US.

They justification was "we're in power now".

11 posted on 06/20/2004 10:00:42 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Tailgunner Joe

BMP


12 posted on 06/20/2004 10:03:27 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP; *AfricaWatch; blam; Cincinatus' Wife; sarcasm; happygrl; ...
I did say a couple of years ago that South Africa would follow Zim's example with a lag of about two decades.

JanL disagreed with me. His estimate was one decade.

At the time, I had to admit that he may well be correct as he has a better finger on South Africa's pulse.

13 posted on 06/20/2004 12:35:19 PM PDT by Clive
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Also keep an eye on Namibia.

Noises are being made there about following Zim's example.

The SADC is about to come unstuck.

The only hopeful signs are in Mozambique, and possibly Zambia.

14 posted on 06/20/2004 12:40:38 PM PDT by Clive
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To: solitas

If his opinions are like the other farmer who said (and I quote) "Black people cannot farm," do you think he's doing right by his employees?


15 posted on 06/21/2004 2:59:11 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Mr. Duvenage should be billing the local authorities for housing city indigents on his land.
16 posted on 06/21/2004 3:07:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: zimdog
If his opinions are like the other farmer who said (and I quote) "Black people cannot farm," do you think he's doing right by his employees?
• Well, he IS employing them and seeing to their welfare. yeah, his language may be a little off, we don't know his opinion on whether or not the indigenes are capable of farming, but from what's presented he seems to be doing an okay job to me.
17 posted on 06/21/2004 6:28:29 PM PDT by solitas ("HA HA!" (Nelson Muntz))
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To: solitas

if he DOES think that way and is still employing black people to do farmwork, what does that tell us about HIS farming skills? this is not to put the hurt on the man named in the article, but i'm sure there are plenty of so-called "farmers" who take the racist view that "black people cannot farm" yet whose farms would never be productive without black employees.


18 posted on 06/22/2004 2:03:17 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

Look - that's twice now you've started postings with "if". I don't care about "if"s: by the wording in the article he's doing right by his employees or otherwise One would figure they'd leave for greener pastures.

IMO: if they think they can farm by themselves: why aren't they doing it? Their government seems to WANT them to farm, and I'm sure they'd help them, and some of them ARE farming, so how about all the others? If they're happier working for someone else, that's their choice and if they didn't like his opinions they probably wouldn't stay where they are, doing what they're doing.

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19 posted on 06/22/2004 7:07:20 PM PDT by solitas ("HA HA!" (Nelson Muntz))
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To: solitas

IMO: if they think they can farm by themselves: why aren't they doing it? Their government seems to WANT them to farm, and I'm sure they'd help them, and some of them ARE farming, so how about all the others? If they're happier working for someone else, that's their choice and if they didn't like his opinions they probably wouldn't stay where they are, doing what they're doing.

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That's what I'm saying about the white farmers with the racist attitudes: If they think black people can't farm, then they should prove it by doing all the farmwork themselves, with no black employees. I don't see that happening, but these racist complaints that white farmers are the only good farmers in Zimbabwe persist.

I didn't mean to pick on the guy who you think is doing a good job -- I just wanted to use his situation as an example.


20 posted on 06/23/2004 11:30:03 AM PDT by zimdog
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