The Red Cross has zero credibility, as far as I am concerned.
NO, I don't think it will affect the President's job. I don't believe he approved panties on their head, sexual abuse, beatings, or the naked piles...anything else doesn't count in most conservative opinions anyway.
I agree that the lib news will begin bashing Bush, Reagan and anything conservative from here on out, until the election and beyond. Dogs bark, its their nature.
Now that the period of mourning and goodbyes are over they will attack like the wild animals they are....what else do you expect them to do. They have no morals, manners or actual understanding of what their party stands for...they are just followers behind the pied piper!
It is a safe bet whatever evidence they have is being overblown and amounts to very little. But it will be hyped by the media.
BS.
IMHO many if not most Americans have no problem with tough interrogation techniques, especially of these terrorists and other non-regular-army type prisoners.
"dogs, temperature extremes, reversed sleep patterns and sensory deprivation".
Works for me. Does anyone think tea and cookies is an effective interrogation technique?
i) the "torture" memo was probably disseminated only among top DOJ and admin officials. Probably no one at the Pentagon (to say nothing of the Abu Ghraid staff) ever saw or heard anything about it until this week;
ii)The W Compost was slandering Gen. Sanchez yesterday by implying that he had approved the "torture" at Abu Ghraib. What Sanchez approved was the use of certain coercive techniques, when specifically requested and authorized. This was already reported weeks ago, and Gen. Sanchez testified that no such specific requests were made nor any such authorizations given. In any case the coercive techniques subject to approval did not encompass any of the abuses documented at Abu Ghraib.
This is simply another digusting attempt by the press to manufacture a story implicating the Bush administration in something when the facts don't warrant it.
BTW, while we're talking about Abu Ghraib, shall we recall what the late Mike Spann told Johnny Taliban on the video tape from Mazar i Sharif we all saw two years ago? He told him he would be killed if he did not cooperate. No one complained then (except for some of the usual leftist suspects), because we were still angry and afraid after 9/11.
Sorry, but what angers me about Abu Ghraib is the lack of discipline among the troops there, not the adoption of a realistic framework for coercive interrogations by Gen. Sanchez and the DOD, a framework which was never applied by the command there.
The Red Cross...at it again. They seem so close to the enemy that I think we can take their claims with a grain of salt. (Not that the media will...)
"IF" this does cost the President the election then America deserves what she gets.
Now no where in any of this was one act of simulated "sex" acts were ever approved at there high up level.
Our men and women were getting blown up day and night by these freaks. Cry me a river.
And thus starts the 2004 presidential campaign, with all of it's BS.
These prisoners weren't treated roughly enough, IMHO......
Only if the American voters have a death wish. The Democrats made a tactical descision to be "anti-war". They are mistaking this current conflict with Viet Nam, where when we pulled out, only the South Vietnamese paid a price.
Pulling out of Afghanistan and/or Iraq will not end the war. Remember, the middle east terrorist have been at war with the West for many years, it is only recently that we have begun to treat it as a war, and not as a law enforcement issue.
If the main stream media and the left do succeed and Kerry is elected, we will pay a much greater price in blood and money then if President Bush was allowed to finish what we have started.
The real question is why we didn't open the gates of hell on these evil men. Oh, we did worst. We put panities on their heads. Yawn.
“The Red Cross has become a partisan organization.”
The Red Cross is desperate to gets its dirty hands on the oil money in the mid-east. I feel they have been unfairly siding with terrorist and feeding anti-American sediment worldwide with reports of U.S. abuses.
The simple fact is; US soldiers dressed terrorist up in women’s underwear and took pictures of it. They probably got good information and took it to the next step (nude photos). Big deal! They might of got information that saved a US soldiers life.
Humiliated yes, Tortured to death no!
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The fact is the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to fighters who a) are not fighting for a Nation b) people who target civilians, and randomly at that. We fall into a trap if we give these savages the rights that they deny us in their war against civilization.
And evidently, we don't want the world to view us in this light, or we wouldn't be trying to distance ourselves from it. If we're only doing these types of things because our survival depends on it, why are we distancing ourselves from the actions, saying that they're shameful? Why can't we assert our superiority here?
What I'd like to know, is whose idea was it to photograph all this stuff? That is one of the warfare tactics sure to go down in History as the left of the bellcurve brigade stuff. What a bunch of idiots.
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
Oh yes, I am sure they all know exactly what happened. And besides, if this is true, SO FREAKING WHAT? These are terrorists people, and if making them talk in the necessary ways saved lives, who cares? Good grief we have gone mad in this country.
You state the President may lose his job over this? Why? What on earth is the matter with people in this country?
Oh yeah, ejdrapes. I can see the indictment now.
Conspiracy to put underwear on a terrorist's head.
Or how 'bout this: Unlawful legal discussion of how to prevent another 9/11-type terror attack on US interests.
Or maybe: Accessory to practicing humiliation by forcing a terrorist prison to stand in the nude.
Or maybe cruelty to animals due to knowledge that snarling guard dogs were forced to be in the same vicinity as slimy soldier-killers.
C'MON. Why are you even posting this type of crap, unless you are really a liberal mole and are trying to demoralize Freepers.
It won't work. Even if they find a videotape of GWB saying "let's get rough on these terrorists", I believe the majority of good decent patriots in this country would say Good For HIm.