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"We're at war". Glad I don't live in Baltimore. Of course, they aren't stopping just at Baltimore, but all of the surrounding counties, etc.

With plans this ambitious, I'm sure they'll start tracking vehicles, etc.

1 posted on 06/10/2004 10:52:56 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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With plans this ambitious, I'm sure they'll start tracking vehicles, etc.


2 posted on 06/10/2004 10:59:03 AM PDT by SheLion (Don Imus is voting for FnKerry!)
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"We're trying to build a regional network of cameras," said Dennis R. Schrader, director of homeland security for Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr.

What of privacy concerns raised by groups opposed to cameras constantly monitored by retired police officers or college students?

"We're at war," Schrader said.

The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard.

There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to.

You had to live -- did live, from habit that became instinct -- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized.


3 posted on 06/10/2004 11:13:08 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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5 posted on 06/10/2004 11:19:10 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Of course, as long as you aren't committing any crimes, you have nothing to worry about.

Right?

Anyone?

6 posted on 06/10/2004 11:19:58 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Burger Eating War Monkey)
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Assuming this project can't be stopped (which it can't) how does everyone feel about the system being accessible to EVERYONE rather than just the government?

Any citizen could monitor the cameras via the web. This would allow everyone equal access rather that allowing the monitoring to be exclusively and selectively used by the government against its own people.


9 posted on 06/10/2004 12:32:46 PM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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"We're at war," Schrader said.

More rights have been lost to that excuse than any other single one. Every war, sometimes justified, but not usually. And most never fully return.

10 posted on 06/10/2004 12:36:31 PM PDT by Protagoras (government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." ...Ronald Reagan, 1981)
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Does anybody really want to see what goes on in Baltimore?


16 posted on 06/10/2004 12:51:14 PM PDT by livius
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24-hour camera surveillance in city is part of bigger plan Financed by homeland security grants, new network aimed at fighting terrorists as much as drug dealers

People going into adult bookstores, the wrong church, pool-halls. Will these tapes be subpoenaäble by divorce lawyers, news reporters, private detectives, or historians?

17 posted on 06/10/2004 1:18:24 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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I have no problem with this. Every Baltimore dweller I've ever met has been indistinguishable from a Stuckey's pecan log.


21 posted on 06/10/2004 3:04:51 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's not often you see Johnny Mathis in the wild.)
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Since our judges and government have seen fit to release prisoners as well as acquit the guilty involved in terrorism, I can only assume the cameras are for the control of us good citizens. WELCOME TO 1984.


25 posted on 06/10/2004 4:36:23 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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