Los Angeles -- Demonstrate Against ACLU Bullies,for the "Cross"

California Patriot | 6-7-04 | California Patriot

[California Patriot]

URGENT

Southern Californians: Please join DENNIS PRAGER tomorrow morning, 8:30 a.m. TUESDAY, at a march and rally in downtown Los Angeles. We will protest the ACLU's bullying demand to remove a tiny cross from the LA County seal. Location: Corner of Temple and Grand streets. Easy Metrolink access. Parking available in nearby city lots. BRING SIGNS WITH LARGE LETTERING. See also: dennisprager.com.

This is especially important because the Board of Supervisors will meet in their nearby building at 9:30 a.m. to hold a SECOND VOTE on the issue. We need to have lots of people at this meeting too. The Republican supervisors would like a large anti- ACLU group to attend and make their views heard.

On the first vote, the two Republicans supported the cross and the three Democrats, naturally, opposed it. GOP Supervisor Mike Antonovich's office has already received thousands of calls protesting this catering to extremists by the Democratic supes.

PLEASE also phone/voice mail the Democratic members' offices NOW!!! THE EXTREMIST ACLU BULLYING MUST STOP!!! CAVE-INS ONLY INVITE MORE BULLYING FROM OTHERS!!! YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE DON'T SUPPORT THIS!!! YOUR JOB IS AT RISK!!!

Zev Yaroslavsky, 213-974-3333

Yvonne Burke, 213-974-2222

Gloria Molina, 213-974-4111

[goldstategop]

Yeah guys, go out and win one for The Gipper! Let's not have the ACLU Taliban get away with blowing up monuments to American history. Yee haw!

[Texas Eagle]

Funny how the ACLU gets its lacy panties all wadded up over a little cross on a county seal. I wonder why they aren't suing to have the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. demolished.

But then, maybe I shouldn't be giving them ideas.

[Travis McGee]

bttt!

[Capitalism2003]

Go California Freepers!!!

[TBarnett34]

Bump from the East coast..good luck CA Freepers!

[freekitty]

Go for it California. Take your state back from these non-Americans.

[Argus]

After they get rid of the cross (and they will), I plan to start a petition drive to re-name Los Angeles "Atheopolis".

[Arpege92]

"Funny how the ACLU gets it lacy panties all wadded up over a little cross on a county seal."

I think it makes them look desperate. They have to pick on something like a little cross on a county seal to get themselves some attention.

[mollynme]

O'Reilly has been showing teaser pictures of the rally - promising more later.

[claudiustg]

Go team! Don't let these g-dless communists steal your heritage!

[wita]

Perhaps a picture of the seal would help us make up our minds, and find other incongruities. If I remember correctly from TV, there was a cow on the seal as well, now God created the cow, man created the cross, upon which he murdered his God, wonder how that plays.

[Valin]

Protesters march
in defense of cross
Hundreds demand L.A. County reconsider decision to strip symbol from official seal

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Posted: June 8, 2004
3:10 p.m. Eastern
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38851


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Hundreds of protesters gathered outside the Los Angeles County Hall of Administration this morning to protest the Board of Supervisors' decision to remove a small cross from the county seal after receiving a litigation threat from the American Civil Liberties Union.




The protesters carried signs reading: "Jews for the Seal," "Anti-Christian Liberties Union" and "Stop the Cultural Cleansing. Stop the ACLU," according to a report by KNBC-TV.

After receiving a letter from the ACLU that claimed the cross – which is featured among several other representative symbols on the seal – violates the First Amendment of the Constitution, the Board voted 3-2 June 1 in closed session to acquiesce to the legal group and remove the cross from the 47-year-old logo.

Supervisors Zev Yaroslavsky, Gloria Molina and Yvonne Brathwaite Burke voted to negotiate with the ACLU to remove the cross. Supervisors Mike Antonovich and Don Knabe objected.


Antonovich planned to ask his colleagues to reconsider the vote.

"The board's majority decision to yield to the ACLU's demand to change the county's official seal was based on an incomplete legal analysis," Antonovich said, according to KNBC.

Meanwhile, a county employee, Ernesto Vasquez, has filed a lawsuit against the county challenging its decision. Thomas More Law Center filed the suit Friday on Vasquez's behalf. It contends the action to remove the cross sends a government-sponsored message of hostility toward Christians in violation of the Constitution.

"California has become a battleground for anti-Christian forces," said the law center's Charles LiMandri. "Whether it be same-sex marriage, the removal of 'under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance, or now the removal of a small cross from the L.A. County seal, the impact is the same: the de-Christianizing of our society."

WorldNetDaily columnist Dennis Prager was scheduled to attend today's protest. In his column today, Prager writes:

"The ACLU knows what is at stake – the removal of religion, specifically Christianity, from American history; and the replacing of Judeo-Christian values with leftist ones. That is why it threatened a lawsuit and gave the Board of Supervisors almost no time to deliberate. Those with radical aims do not like exposure and public debate."

Besides the tiny cross, the seal also includes a Spanish galleon, a tuna, the Hollywood Bowl, engineering instruments, oil derricks, a prize cow and Goddess Pomona, the Roman goddess of gardens and fruit trees.

While one argument leading to the county's decision involved the potentially high cost of litigation over the issue, some legal-defense organizations, including the Pacific Justice Center and the American Center for Law and Justice, have come forth with opinions that support a successful defense of the cross on the seal. The Associated Press reported some groups have offered to wage a defense on behalf of the county for free.

Related column:

Taliban come to Los Angeles

[chase19]

Thomas Moore Law Center has taken the case. Please send donations in any amount to: sdoran@thomasmoore.org

[Valin]

Thomas Moore Law Center
http://www.thomasmore.org/index.html

[chase19]

I got a reply back from S Doran at Thomas Moores Law Center - the address I gave - but I did use the one you've written initially so - apologies to everyone.

[Valin]

I forgive you, but WATCH IT! We've got our eye on you.

[FrankR]

Calling it a demonstration against the "bullies" sounds like we're going to hit them with our collective "purse".

Their offices need to be invaded, and stormed like the conservative crowd that stormed the "smokey back room" in Tallahassee when the vote-fraud chad-count was attempted during the 2000 election.

If there is one thing to be learned from procrastination, it is that if you wait too long, some things are "un-fixable". The ACLU is like a CANCER to American, and it must be stopped early, before it completely consumes us.

[ruthles]

I noticed the "National Cathedral" has a cross on the stained glass. I'm sure the ACLU will eventually bi#ch about that too.

[bunkerhill7]

from the Pledge case:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=558&e=1&u=/ap/20040614/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_pledge_of_allegiance

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Supreme Court Preserves 'God' in Pledge

5 minutes ago

By ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court at least temporarily preserved the phrase "one nation, under God," in the Pledge of Allegiance, ruling Monday that a California atheist could not challenge the patriotic oath while sidestepping the
broader question of separation of church and state.

.....The administration argued that the reference to God in the pledge is more about ceremony and history than about religion.

The reference is an "OFFICIAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF OUR NATION"S RELIGIOUS HERITAGE," similar to the "In God We Trust" stamped on coins and bills, Solicitor General Theodore Olson argued to the court. (my caps)

It is far-fetched to say such references pose a real danger of imposing state-sponsored religion, Olson said.
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