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Info From Iraq From Someone Who Is Doing the Run and Gun
June 2004 | An American Contractor

Posted on 06/06/2004 11:55:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee

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There's a lot of real-world information in this letter you won't see anywhere else. The author is obviously a "Tier One" specops veteran now working as an "IC" or Independant Contractor.

Even if you're never going to go to Iraq, this letter contains MANY pearls of wisdom to salt away for a rainy SHTF day, when Normaltown USA might turn into Fallujah.

1 posted on 06/06/2004 11:55:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: *bang_list; Squantos; river rat; Mulder; Criminal Number 18F; TEXASPROUD; majhenrywest; Eaker; ...

Bang!

Study this letter. If you have a test on this information later, it could save your life.

2 posted on 06/07/2004 12:00:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Good read........I e-mailed my lil brother ,whos returning to Iraq in august, with the good info from in country. Thanks Travis !

Stay safe !

3 posted on 06/07/2004 12:28:52 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SevenDaysInMay

Ping


4 posted on 06/07/2004 12:39:00 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Travis McGee

Lots to learn here.


5 posted on 06/07/2004 12:50:44 AM PDT by risk
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To: Travis McGee

That is gold. Pure Freaking gold. A million thanks.

I don't save many threads. This is one that I'll save and pass on.

And yes, there will be one if you need one.


6 posted on 06/07/2004 1:30:01 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Coming to you live from HESCO city...)
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To: Travis McGee

Very interesting post...

Wouldn't you just love to spend a few days talking to a few of these ICs after they return from a turn In Country?

I can't imagine the pucker factor -- moving about in the open, clearly identified as the "enemy", with 100's of thousands of lunatics eyeballing you and eager to waste you...

At least in the highlands or jungle, there was some "privacy" by virtue of cover or stealth!
This "urban $hit" is whole new game...one in which I would prefer to be the "native" not the "occupier"...

Semper Fi


7 posted on 06/07/2004 1:30:31 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Travis McGee
Excellent post. Probably the best I've ever read on FR. Thanks!

LBT

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8 posted on 06/07/2004 1:55:33 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks, Trav. This one's a keeper.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

9 posted on 06/07/2004 5:06:19 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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Travis - bookmarked and shall be passed around. thanks, pal. good info.


10 posted on 06/07/2004 6:23:36 AM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: Travis McGee

Be Prepared.


11 posted on 06/07/2004 6:39:34 AM PDT by blam
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To: King Prout

Good stuff. Thanks.


12 posted on 06/07/2004 7:30:27 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool (Why do Al Qaeda and DNC press releases always sound the same?)
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To: Travis McGee; Eagle Eye
This is a GREAT letter. Thjanks so much for posting it here.

I relly like all of the advise, but the advise regarding weapons is especially direct.

Carry as big a gun as you can. Keep it clean. Keep it hot.

CARRY LOTS OF AMMO. On April 4th I went through 14 mags and NEVER would have thought that a possibility before then. Carry more ammo, stage spare mags EVERYWHERE. Like the freakin Easter bunny.

Practice shooting out to 800M. I know, nearly every fight is within 150 but we were trying to bang a mortar crew that was pounding us at 800M's. And it happened more than once.

In terms of shooting. Practice as you did on active duty. Always scrounge ammo.

Buy short M4's. They will save you’re ass. I carry a 18" upper on me with glass so when we reach our destination I flick it on the lower receiver and I now have a decent long gun. It’s like having two guns to choose from.

Wes Grant builds all my guns and he does for some Tier One guys as well. www.mstn.biz and wgrant@midsouth.rr.com. He is fair priced and gets the shit out the door quick and can handle good size orders. Optics, Uppers, all that.

Once you make contact ... Finish it. If you shot a guy and he is limping to cover he can still get there and return fire. Just finish everything you start.

A car door is not cover. In fact a car is not cover. Cement is.
Good info for any environment.
13 posted on 06/07/2004 8:17:23 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com - The next World War)
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To: Travis McGee; Eagle Eye; Allegra; TEXOKIE; xzins; Alamo-Girl; blackie; SandRat; Calpernia; ...
There's a lot of real-world information in this letter you won't see anywhere else. The author is obviously a "Tier One" specops veteran now working as an "IC" or Independant Contractor.

Even if you're never going to go to Iraq, this letter contains MANY pearls of wisdom to salt away for a rainy SHTF day, when Normaltown USA might turn into Fallujah. ~ Travis McGee

Thank you, Travis.

14 posted on 06/07/2004 8:46:46 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("This is no time for ease and comfort. It is the time to dare and endure." - Winston Churchill)
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15 posted on 06/07/2004 9:24:44 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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Speaking of which, weapon, twelve mags, pistol, three mags, MEDKIT, GPS, mpa and compass, radio, spare battery, 500US dollars, MRE , water bottle, NVG, armor. It’s a lot. It’s hot but f**k it, if its too heavy get membership at the gym. This job isn’t for everybody.

First off, I'm not in this guy's league. Not even playing the same game.

But after my first trip I realized that packing light was for the birds. Screw packing light, pack what you need. And what you might need. There ain't no Walmart nearby to get your last minute items that you forget.

Don't bother with cheap stuff. If you won't trust your life to it, don't get it. You just might have to do exactly that.

What you have has to be functionable. If it's also stylish that's just a bonus, but screw looking Hollywood with infrerior, non functioning gear just because it looks cool. For example, there is a very popular brand of 'tactical' clothing that is out performed easily by several no name brands that also cost less. Get what works, not what brand is cool. This is really true of knives.

Redundancy. Have extras. Have a dedicated travel kit. If that means 5 Leathermen so that you always have one exactly where you need one (glove box, bug out bag, belt, first aid kit, etc.) then do it.

There's a lot of lessons out there paid for in blood. Hopefully we'll be smart enough to honor those lessons by not spilling ours.

16 posted on 06/07/2004 9:44:59 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Coming to you live from HESCO city...)
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To: river rat

Yep, and that's why these "lessons learned" are so important. Everybody going "in country" should know all this before they put boots on the ground.


17 posted on 06/07/2004 10:20:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Eagle Eye; Jeff Head; Travis McGee

Good point EE....Folks used to wonder why I paid 300 plus for a Randall 14 or 2K for a Wilson 1911A1.

For those who've never been there, no explanation is possible....... For those who have, no explanation is needed..........

Stay Safe !


18 posted on 06/07/2004 10:29:56 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Jeff Head

I hope some troops write some books on all of this. This type of warfare translates in many ways to what some types of limited warfare might look like at home in dire straits.


19 posted on 06/07/2004 10:40:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Eagle Eye; Squantos; Travis McGee
More great sage advise based on experience there on the ground...
Screw packing light, pack what you need. And what you might need. There ain't no Walmart nearby to get your last minute items that you forget.

Don't bother with cheap stuff. If you won't trust your life to it, don't get it. You just might have to do exactly that.

What you have has to be functionable. Get what works, not what brand is cool. This is really true of knives.

Redundancy. Have extras. Have a dedicated travel kit. If that means 5 Leathermen so that you always have one exactly where you need one (glove box, bug out bag, belt, first aid kit, etc.) then do it.

There's a lot of lessons out there paid for in blood. Hopefully we'll be smart enough to honor those lessons by not spilling ours.
Stay safe bro.
20 posted on 06/07/2004 10:52:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com - The next World War)
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