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There's a lot of real-world information in this letter you won't see anywhere else. The author is obviously a "Tier One" specops veteran now working as an "IC" or Independant Contractor.

Even if you're never going to go to Iraq, this letter contains MANY pearls of wisdom to salt away for a rainy SHTF day, when Normaltown USA might turn into Fallujah.

1 posted on 06/06/2004 11:55:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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Bang!

Study this letter. If you have a test on this information later, it could save your life.

2 posted on 06/07/2004 12:00:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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Lots to learn here.


5 posted on 06/07/2004 12:50:44 AM PDT by risk
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To: Travis McGee

That is gold. Pure Freaking gold. A million thanks.

I don't save many threads. This is one that I'll save and pass on.

And yes, there will be one if you need one.


6 posted on 06/07/2004 1:30:01 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Coming to you live from HESCO city...)
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Very interesting post...

Wouldn't you just love to spend a few days talking to a few of these ICs after they return from a turn In Country?

I can't imagine the pucker factor -- moving about in the open, clearly identified as the "enemy", with 100's of thousands of lunatics eyeballing you and eager to waste you...

At least in the highlands or jungle, there was some "privacy" by virtue of cover or stealth!
This "urban $hit" is whole new game...one in which I would prefer to be the "native" not the "occupier"...

Semper Fi


7 posted on 06/07/2004 1:30:31 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Excellent post. Probably the best I've ever read on FR. Thanks!

LBT

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8 posted on 06/07/2004 1:55:33 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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Be Prepared.


11 posted on 06/07/2004 6:39:34 AM PDT by blam
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To: Travis McGee; Eagle Eye
This is a GREAT letter. Thjanks so much for posting it here.

I relly like all of the advise, but the advise regarding weapons is especially direct.

Carry as big a gun as you can. Keep it clean. Keep it hot.

CARRY LOTS OF AMMO. On April 4th I went through 14 mags and NEVER would have thought that a possibility before then. Carry more ammo, stage spare mags EVERYWHERE. Like the freakin Easter bunny.

Practice shooting out to 800M. I know, nearly every fight is within 150 but we were trying to bang a mortar crew that was pounding us at 800M's. And it happened more than once.

In terms of shooting. Practice as you did on active duty. Always scrounge ammo.

Buy short M4's. They will save you’re ass. I carry a 18" upper on me with glass so when we reach our destination I flick it on the lower receiver and I now have a decent long gun. It’s like having two guns to choose from.

Wes Grant builds all my guns and he does for some Tier One guys as well. www.mstn.biz and wgrant@midsouth.rr.com. He is fair priced and gets the shit out the door quick and can handle good size orders. Optics, Uppers, all that.

Once you make contact ... Finish it. If you shot a guy and he is limping to cover he can still get there and return fire. Just finish everything you start.

A car door is not cover. In fact a car is not cover. Cement is.
Good info for any environment.
13 posted on 06/07/2004 8:17:23 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com - The next World War)
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There's a lot of real-world information in this letter you won't see anywhere else. The author is obviously a "Tier One" specops veteran now working as an "IC" or Independant Contractor.

Even if you're never going to go to Iraq, this letter contains MANY pearls of wisdom to salt away for a rainy SHTF day, when Normaltown USA might turn into Fallujah. ~ Travis McGee

Thank you, Travis.

14 posted on 06/07/2004 8:46:46 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("This is no time for ease and comfort. It is the time to dare and endure." - Winston Churchill)
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Speaking of which, weapon, twelve mags, pistol, three mags, MEDKIT, GPS, mpa and compass, radio, spare battery, 500US dollars, MRE , water bottle, NVG, armor. It’s a lot. It’s hot but f**k it, if its too heavy get membership at the gym. This job isn’t for everybody.

First off, I'm not in this guy's league. Not even playing the same game.

But after my first trip I realized that packing light was for the birds. Screw packing light, pack what you need. And what you might need. There ain't no Walmart nearby to get your last minute items that you forget.

Don't bother with cheap stuff. If you won't trust your life to it, don't get it. You just might have to do exactly that.

What you have has to be functionable. If it's also stylish that's just a bonus, but screw looking Hollywood with infrerior, non functioning gear just because it looks cool. For example, there is a very popular brand of 'tactical' clothing that is out performed easily by several no name brands that also cost less. Get what works, not what brand is cool. This is really true of knives.

Redundancy. Have extras. Have a dedicated travel kit. If that means 5 Leathermen so that you always have one exactly where you need one (glove box, bug out bag, belt, first aid kit, etc.) then do it.

There's a lot of lessons out there paid for in blood. Hopefully we'll be smart enough to honor those lessons by not spilling ours.

16 posted on 06/07/2004 9:44:59 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Coming to you live from HESCO city...)
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Thanks. When the put the Six Flags in Tikrit I will put all this to use.LOL


22 posted on 06/07/2004 12:57:27 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (She's got it all, beauty and looks.)
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Good info, thanks...Interesting comments on the medical equipment compared to GI...


29 posted on 06/07/2004 2:07:47 PM PDT by in the Arena ("rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” ~ Orwell)
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Good advice, and not just for operators, and not just in Iraq.

Oh, and about that 17 large a month...you gotta live to spend it.

30 posted on 06/07/2004 2:10:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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ping


32 posted on 06/07/2004 2:32:09 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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Man, that is great - I was LMAO.


38 posted on 06/07/2004 3:15:59 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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Throwing a flashbang into the team leader's hootch at 3AM while drunk is not a good practical joke.

BTW, throwing a grenade simulator into the squadron sergeant major's hootch at 0300 while drunk is ALSO not a good practical joke.

(Guess how I know about that one :o)

39 posted on 06/07/2004 3:17:56 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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What kind of movement was he referring to during magazine changes Master Obi Wan?


43 posted on 06/07/2004 3:36:35 PM PDT by Woahhs (America is an idea, not an address)
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Great post Matt!!!


45 posted on 06/07/2004 3:54:02 PM PDT by Eaker (That the bright star of Texas shall never be dim while her soil boasts a son to raise rifle or limb.)
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. . . when Normaltown USA might turn into Fallujah.

Makes me shudder to think how much most of us don't know about staying alive in such a situation, me definitely included.

Lots of great information here, Travis, thanks! Bookmarked, printed out and saved to hard disk. Loved all the references to his equipment and his suppliers. How's this for good work (click lower right for the enlarged pic)? :-)

BTW, while Googling up some of the acronyms, I found this (defensereview.com) site where they review military equipment, etc. FYI.

51 posted on 06/07/2004 4:48:14 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Even if you're never going to go to Iraq, this letter contains MANY pearls of wisdom to salt away for a rainy SHTF day, when Normaltown USA might turn into Fallujah.

Like after Dubya is re-elected, and the extreme left of the Democrat party (the ones who think Howard Dean is a right-wing deviationist) discover "leaderless resistance."

58 posted on 06/07/2004 5:33:21 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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Outstanding stuff, sir, very obviously the work of a pro. Anyone heading to the sandbox would be well served by taking this advice seriously.

Coincidentally enough, my team just returned from Iraq last week, and today we briefed our AAR to our unit. (We were attached to another unit for the rotation). It contained many of the same lessons learned as in this email, albeit our version was in officer friendly PowerPoint. Overall it was very well received. Still, it's amazing how many people want to cling to the old ways of doing things, despite the fact that the lessons from combat are all written in blood. I know they'll get their turn soon enough, but I hope they take our advice seriously.

69 posted on 06/07/2004 6:04:35 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (ICDC = I Can't Do Crap)
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