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Why Abu Graib Matters
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/5/25/163848.shtml ^ | May 25, 2004 | Tammy Bruce

Posted on 05/30/2004 2:57:34 PM PDT by Maria S

I was struck by how shocked members of the senate were upon viewing additional pictures of the undisciplined, unprincipled freaks masquerading as members of our military at Abu Graib prison.

Keep in mind, according to reports from the senators themselves, most of the additional pictures were of our soldiers having sex with each other — male soldiers having sex with female soldiers, that is.

Senators such as Feinstein and Campbell expressed absolute shock at the pictures they saw. I’m shocked at how out-of-touch our senators seem to be when it comes to the nature of what happened at Abu Graib.

Now don’t get me wrong — I believe when it comes to al-Qaeda leadership and operatives, anything goes. I don’t care if you put women’s underwear on their heads, or frankly, even pull out a few fingernails of those responsible for mass murder, to unmask their continuing plans for the genocide of civilized peoples. It’s called “torture lite,” it works, and I’m all for whatever it takes to get information, and yes, to punish and annihilate terrorist leadership around the world.

That said, I consider the vast majority of what happened at Abu Graib to be hazing — nothing more, nothing less. For weeks, all of us have been shouted at by the liberal media about how awful the events were, how having a man stripped naked in front of a woman was “torture,” how making a prisoner wear women’s underwear was “horrific,” and the most recent “charge” of forcing men to wear maxi-pads.

Ah, the horror of it all! I hear that the next stage of the abuse is to make the Iraqis read Ms. Magazine. Heck, that would be torture for anyone! Combine that with forcing them to watch Lifetime Television (the Network-of-Horrible-Things-Are-Going-To-Happen-To-You-Because-You’re-A-Woman) and I’m sure we’d have the location of bin Laden in an hour.

From what I could glean from our shocked, just shocked senators, it seems as though they have never realized that the pornography industry is one of the biggest industries in the world; that we have raised now two generations of men (and women) with graphic, obscene images which have made degrading behavior “sexy,” “normal” and “exciting.”

For the senators who do not know, or have not cared to think about it, the growing scourge of pornography relies on the degradation and humiliation of women, the usual subject involved. What a perfect tool to implement in war! And, dear Senators, how dare you be so shocked and surprised that those who appear to have been the most depraved, the most abusive, seem to have been as obsessed about recording not only the sexual humiliation of their victims, but to participate in it and wallow in their own sexual subjugation as well. Through modern culture each of us is being conditioned to accept, promote and reward the worst in ourselves.

The amazing and hopeful news in all of this is that most Americans still reject this plan of leftists in control of social view of ourselves. Film, television and even radio have gone further and further into a pit of mindless violence, loveless sex and degrading discussion. Finally, we’re demanding the FCC do something about it, but that won’t erase the decades of increasing depravity throughout all mediums of entertainment.

It is worth remembering, we are the greatest nation on Earth specifically because acts which are tantamount to hazing are surprising, and unacceptable, to most people. In our efforts to maintain our perspective here, yes, we have promised democracy to the people of Iraq. What democracy and freedom bring is the rule of law — not perfection, but a way to deal with the imperfect, and even the depraved, among us.

As of this writing, Army Sgt. Charles A. Graner, Jr., one of the soldiers court martialed, seems to have defined his defense. His lawyer appeared on one of the many news programs last week and explained that Sgt. Graner was ordered to do the things he did by a superior, someone he could only identify as “Big Steve.” Who Big Steve was he did not know. And oddly, neither does Sgt. Graner.

This from a man, as USA Today reported, who has at least three protective orders granted against him by the courts at the request of an ex-wife who in court documents alleges Graner doing everything to her ranging from physical violence to videotaping her surreptitiously.

Sounds like something the Abu Graib prisoners are familiar with. With that background, it shouldn’t be so surprising that soldiers charged have claimed Graner was the ringleader of the abuse. And as most of us now know, Lynddie England, the most prominently pictured woman involved, is Graner’s “girlfriend” and pregnant with his child.

Of course, the blame game has started with a vengeance. No one, absolutely no one in this morbid game is willing to take responsibility for what has happened. That is, except for Donald Rumsfeld and George W. Bush, neither of whom have anything to do with the absurdity of the situation, but two decent men who are trying to do the right thing.

Instead, all those involved on the ground, ranging from Brig. General Karpinksi, to PFC England, insist it was someone else, some other person. We have “Big Steve.”

I’m sure at some point we’ll also get the surprise appearance of the Abominable Snowman shouting orders at people, or the Grinch, of the Cat in the Hat, or perhaps it’s been Larry Flint.

In addition to the scourge of pornography, the lack of personal responsibility at first seems mind-boggling, but is not so surprising. We have all been inundated with a leftist culture that drills into us that judgment is verboten; that standards of behavior are oppressive; that expecting more from people is racist, sexist or homophobic.

The left has been obsessed with creating a culture that tells people nothing that happens to them is their fault. We see this reinforced all the time within our Injustice System. I detail in my book The Death of Right and Wrong, judges and juries freeing murderers because they’re “victims of a racist society” or fighting against the oppressor. Women who murder their children are set free because they are victims of “the cult of motherhood.”

Nihilism and moral relativism have their grip on so many, and yet the good news is - the extraordinary news is - that so few in the military display the immorality the left feeds on. By counterpoint, the real story of Abu Graib is that our military, in its greatness and commitment to free people around the world, instills in 99.9 percent of its men and women in uniform the maturity, discipline and love of country which seems to help erase the depraved elements the left has drilled into our young people now for decades.

We can choose to focus on the few who represent the worst, or we can remember that ours is a military that will not only save the world from itself and the Islamist-Fascists who dream of death and destruction.

We can remember it is an American institution which creates “greatest generations,” not by accident, but by training, principles, love of country, and for most, love of God.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abugraib; iraqipow; tammybruce
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I couldn't find where this had been previously posted.

I always enjoy reading Tammy Bruce's articles (and books). I don't agree with her idea of sexuality (she's a lesbian), but I do think she has an uncommon amount of common sense...and she apparently believes in the death penalty and the right to carry a weapon.

1 posted on 05/30/2004 2:57:35 PM PDT by Maria S
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To: Maria S; Mudboy Slim; FBD
"As of this writing, Army Sgt. Charles A. Graner, Jr., one of the soldiers court martialed, seems to have defined his defense. His lawyer appeared on one of the many news programs last week and explained that Sgt. Graner was ordered to do the things he did by a superior, someone he could only identify as “Big Steve.”

Big Steve, eh?

2 posted on 05/30/2004 3:04:49 PM PDT by sultan88 ("I went down Virginia, seeking shelter from the storm...")
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To: Maria S
an uncommon amount of common sense

bump

3 posted on 05/30/2004 3:06:21 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Maria S

LOL! The liberals do everything they can, over many decades, to make Americans see the degrading and the disgusting as commonplace and acceptable (*remember "everybody does it?"). Now they're surprised that they can't produce a tsunami of public outrage over guys on leashes with panties on their heads.


5 posted on 05/30/2004 3:19:32 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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Now they're surprised that they can't produce a tsunami of public outrage over guys on leashes with panties on their heads.

Don't fault them for not trying. Once the media learned to spell some version of 'Abu Graib' the daily quota of stories has not relaxed.

You'd think these educated journalists had never been through a fraternity hazing. Cripes, it's not like being beheaded or having your throat slit, you know?. The only difference is that Americans did the stupid panty/leash stuff and no one was hurt, and Muslims did that beheading and throat slitting. Oh well, nevermind, my boss doesn't want that, got to go.....

6 posted on 05/30/2004 3:34:34 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Peach

Have you seen this??


7 posted on 05/30/2004 3:40:38 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Molly Pitcher

Thanks for the ping, Molly. And for remembering that I like Tammy Bruce's writing!


8 posted on 05/30/2004 3:44:54 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: xJones

My instantaneous reaction to the first photographs was -- homoerotic sadomasochism -- the Don't Ask, Don't Tell crowd at work. I still think that is what we are seeing.


9 posted on 05/30/2004 3:52:54 PM PDT by edger (A)
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To: Peach

You're very welcome Peach.


10 posted on 05/30/2004 4:04:09 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Maria S

our shocked, just shocked senators,

All the while they are busy raping and pillaging the American populace with their outrageous spending bills. What a bunch of hypocrites.


11 posted on 05/30/2004 4:08:22 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: Maria S
I stand in complete agreement with Tammy, and don't personally care what she does outside of writing.

I will add something that could no doubt be taken badly by some....I found some of the photography of the prisoners to be visually stunning. Kudos to the cameraman! My favorite was the photo of the man with his arms suspended and a sack over his head.
If I were to be captured by Islamists and all they did was have me pose naked and embarass me, I'd definitely come away with the feeling not all Islamists are that bad.

12 posted on 05/30/2004 4:23:54 PM PDT by Katya
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To: sultan88
"Big Steve, eh?"

Likely story...MUD

13 posted on 05/30/2004 4:27:02 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Maria S

Abu Ghraib was, at most, a two-day wonder. The very graphic pictures of the soldiers having carnal relations was an indictment, not of Abu Ghraib, but of the persons who posed for the pictures.

Al right. They have been detained and relieved of their duty at the prison, and are being held elsewhere. Story over.

Only it's not over. Whatever the thinking was for integrating the genders in every phase of military duties, has to be under reconsideration. Female soldiers are assuredly NOT wholly interchangeable with male soldiers.

There have been females serving in uniform since back in the Second World War, and the problem has always been a nagging one. Well, the experiment was tried, to make females fully equal in every respect to the males beside whom they served. The obvious realities have been largely explored, and the right fix for the current problem would be to separate the male and female contingents along more logical lines befitting their differing roles. There are many, many roles in which females may serve capably and well. Front-line combat and prison guards in all-male prisons are not among them.


14 posted on 05/30/2004 4:27:57 PM PDT by alloysteel (Live well and prosper. Beam me up, Scottie....)
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To: Maria S
I joined the Marine Corps in 1951 and believe me when I say, Abu Graib is nothing compared to what Paris Island was like back then. Guess what, most of us survived and were better for it.

I was never scared or tired until I went to PI and I was not a wimp before going there.

To much has been made of this and wasted way too much time. I'm sure the Army could have handled it just fine without all the other bs and interference.

15 posted on 05/30/2004 4:40:50 PM PDT by depenzz
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To: Maria S

Great article!


16 posted on 05/30/2004 5:22:01 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades...And panties!)
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To: Katya
"...to be visually stunning."

I noticed that right away. I commented on this to a Berkeley liberal who was having a beer next to me at my neighborhood pub. Told him I thought they'd look great on the walls of the Brooklyn Museum and perhaps they should have an exhibit there called "crimes of war."

He wasn't amused. Accused me of being a heartless bastard.

He was a newcomer and hadn't yet heard I was the token conservative there, so I raised my voice excitedly and told him it was puritanical busibodies like him who had persecuted artists like Mapplethorpe and that he'd probably censor the work of a great like Helmut Newton if he could. Suggested he come into the 20th century, then work his way up to the 21st from there. By now, his jaw was clenched, which has always been my cue to move on.

I don't think I made a new friend that day.

17 posted on 05/30/2004 5:34:51 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Mudboy Slim
"Likely story."

    In other news, Sgt. Charles Graner emerged from his preliminary court martial hearing today, looking pale and badly shaken in the wake of a tense exchange with the examiners. Asked to identify the shadowy and diabolic "Big Steve," he repeatedly refused.

    Said Graner, "I'm not afraid of God, I'm not afraid of this court, but I am afraid of Keyser Steve."


18 posted on 05/30/2004 5:45:38 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Maria S
I don't agree with the author's ideas that anything that we do to these people is okay, but I think much of her commentary is very good. I've sometimes wondered when those who perpetrated these incidents joined the military and whether they would have ever joined or been accepted prior to the 90's when Clinton threw open the doors to a "don't ask, don't tell" kind of recruit. I'm not saying that these people are homosexuals, but I suspect that eight years of Clintonism may have created an atmosphere where high standards of decency and ethics were not considered a vital part of being in the service.

Defining Personal Responsibility
Bill

19 posted on 05/30/2004 6:06:03 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Bonaparte

Mapplethorpe and Newton....exactly. I suppose I qualify as a heartless bitch, if the qualifying characteristic is one who doesn't like to be coerced into "feeling".


20 posted on 05/31/2004 8:19:41 AM PDT by Katya
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