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So, what is a 'neocon'?
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Saturday, May 29, 2004 | Bill Steigerwald

Posted on 05/30/2004 11:02:40 AM PDT by Willie Green

What's the difference between "conservative" and "neoconservative"? Who are the "neocons," anyway? And were they, as some charge, an unduly influential cabal of intellectuals who talked President Bush into going to war in Iraq after 9/11 as part of their long-planned crusade to plant democracy in the Middle East?

To seek enlightenment on things neoconservative, I rang up four of the biggest names in the punditry business and asked them the same questions. Rich Lowry is editor of National Review. Paul Weyrich is chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Foundation. Paul Gigot is editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page. And George Will is the famous syndicated columnist:

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: neocons; pseudoconservatives; rinos
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1 posted on 05/30/2004 11:02:40 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

NeoCons: those who aspire to achieve socialism via the Republican party?


2 posted on 05/30/2004 11:04:41 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

NeoCons: those that think that we can win the war on terror by leaving our borders unsecured.


3 posted on 05/30/2004 11:05:38 AM PDT by inflation (Cuba = BAD, China = Good? Why, should not both be treated the way Cuba is?)
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To: Willie Green

I saw the term "mesoconservative" the other day.

I am expecting anyday soon Jerassicon, Futuracon and Retrocon and Condacon.


4 posted on 05/30/2004 11:06:22 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (This is a tag: </> This is a Line ---------)
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To: Willie Green

A derogatory term usually used by liberals an RINO's to attack anyone who supports President Bush.


5 posted on 05/30/2004 11:07:11 AM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Willie Green

Thanks for posting the article. It is clear from the discussion involving prominent Conservatives (as in your article) that no one quite agrees,


6 posted on 05/30/2004 11:08:43 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Willie Green; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...

Short list.


7 posted on 05/30/2004 11:10:35 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Abcdefg

All the attention on the Neocons allows the Paleoconservatives to kick butt. Gotta have a smokescreen, ya know. ;-)


8 posted on 05/30/2004 11:11:14 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Communism failed because people like to own stuff.)
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To: BunnySlippers

The difference in the presidential candidates this election are so stark that a vote for Kerry is an admission of a sick mind or a treasonous heart.


9 posted on 05/30/2004 11:11:50 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: COEXERJ145

I usually call them "neo-Libs" right back. Tends to cause confusion and anger.


10 posted on 05/30/2004 11:12:22 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: inflation
NeoCons: those that think that we can win the war on terror by leaving our borders unsecured.

Neocons: How dare you think we need secure national borders? All we need is to hire countless more rude illegals to do security checks at our airports.

11 posted on 05/30/2004 11:14:34 AM PDT by xJones
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To: freedumb2003

Guess that makes me an Ultraretrocon.


12 posted on 05/30/2004 11:16:24 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: freedumb2003

I like 'retrocon' myself.


14 posted on 05/30/2004 11:18:25 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY

Now that you mention it, Retrocon is pretty good.

I better copyright it before The Donald gets there!!


15 posted on 05/30/2004 11:20:37 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (This is a tag: </> This is a Line ---------)
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To: Willie Green
I read the article pretty fast, but can't figure out the Anti-Semitic part?

Can some one explain what they were talking about?
16 posted on 05/30/2004 11:22:53 AM PDT by Delphinium
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George Will: It's not necessarily anti-Semitic. There is often an anti-Semitic twist to it, yes.

I think George Will's response was the closest to accurate.

17 posted on 05/30/2004 11:24:54 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!!


18 posted on 05/30/2004 11:29:10 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: xJones
Neocons: How dare you think we need secure national borders?

I was told the bad guys would never enter through our bleeding borders. They would only enter legally on jet planes, as tourist or visitors on visas etc.

I guess we didn't learn much after the morning of 911.

19 posted on 05/30/2004 11:30:53 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Willie Green
Rich Lowry: ... And with the war on terror, you saw neoconservatives emerging as a distinct tendency within conservatism, mostly on foreign policy; its hallmarks being extreme interventionism, extremely idealistic foreign policy, and emphasis on democracy building and spreading human rights and freedom and an overestimation, in my view, of how easy it is to spread democracy and liberty to spots in the world where it doesn't exist currently.

True enough, and well said. Lowry's National Review led the way on this. A little more skepticism and openness to opposing opinions would have been advisable. Maybe they wanted to get out far ahead and give clear indications of the way for others to follow, lest they be left behind and lose their influence or the country miss the big opportunity to change the world.

It would be surprising if some of the big war pundits (Hanson, Peters, Price-Jones, Steyn) will have as much influence in the future as they had over the last two years or so. National Review will probably do some backpedaling to disassociate itself from the more determined and impassioned neocons, but they've lost some credibility in recent months.

20 posted on 05/30/2004 11:31:32 AM PDT by x
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