Posted on 05/29/2004 4:48:59 PM PDT by Graybeard58
Baloney-I guarantee there is more traffic flow south on I-77 from Statesville to Charlotte than there is west on I-40 from Statesville to Hickory. For years Mooresville High School was one of the fastest growing schools in the state because Charlotte parents were fleeing Char-Meck schools and relocating in southern Iredell county. I'd bet a huge percentage of those who live on Lake Norman in Iredell, Lincoln and Catawba counties commute to work in Charlotte.
The original poster already admitted that he was probably misremembering the number Zogby said.
Greater Hickory Metro (Alexander,Burke,Catawba,Caldwell,Iredell)
Whoops! That second link was an accident. The other two make the point..
Check this out.
In post 35, I postulated that Republicans in general are doing better in areas where the economy and the population are growing most rapidly, and that Dems seem to do better in areas of more modest, or even negative, growth. Since I was in large part responsible for diverting some of this thread's discussions to North Carolina, it is only right that I should return it to Ohio, which by any reasonable measure is a more critical state in 2004.
AntiGuv focused on a 5-county region centered on Charlotte for his analysis; let's compare that area to a 6-county region centered on Toledo. The comparison is imperfect, as any comparison would be, but I think instructive nonetheless. In 1980, in the five Charlotte-area counties (Cabarrus, Gaston, Lincoln, Mecklenburg [which includes Charlotte], and Union), Ronald Reagan received 145,253 votes (53.68% of the 2-party vote), and Jimmy Carter took received 125,319 (46.32%). Note the total 2-party vote: 270,572. In the same election, in the six Toledo-area counties (Fulton, Henry, Lucas [which includes Toledo], Ottawa, Sandusky, and Wood), Reagan received 143,585 votes (53.01% of the 2-party vote), and Carter received 127,299 (49.99%). The total 2-party vote was 270,884, so both in terms of percentage and in terms of total votes, the Charlotte and Toledo votes were quite similar. (It should be noted that Ohioan John Anderson received about 8% of the vote in metro Toledo, as compared to about 4% in metro Charlotte; I doubt that the net impact was significant since he pulled more or less the same number of votes from each major candidate.)
Now, let's look at 2000. George Bush carried that same Charlotte area by a margin of 282,974 (58.51% of the 2-party vote) to 200,669 (41.49%). But -- Holy Toledo! -- Gore whipped Bush in the Ohio metro area 162,834 (52.98%) to 144,538 (47.02%). The most significant stat here, though, is the total vote. From 1980 to 2000, the 2-party vote in the Charlotte area jumped by 78.75%; in the Toledo area, the increase was only 13.47% (and would have been less had Anderson's 1980 votes been figured into the equation).
OH should be moved back into the Bush column this week, or at the very least, taken out of Kerry's when Dales comes out on Wednesday.
Too lazy to work...too lazy to vote. The unemployed are already registered dims, let's focus on the 95% employed vote....
This link sets Statesville apart as a seperate MSA from Hickory, Morganton and Lenoir (commonly referred to as the Unifour). And this link includes Lincolnton in Charlotte's MSA. Of the four sources I consulted each had different counties listed as part of the Charlotte Metro area.
<a href="http://eslmi12.esc.state.nc.us/oes/regions/regions_data/planning_region_f/divisions_planningregionf.html>This link</a> includes Iredell as part of the same planning region as Charlotte. Please note that these are all state of North Carolina links. (for some reason I can't make the html wokr for the last link-I've tried three times).
Good news, indeed. I recently moved to southern Ohio (from the deep South), and our local rag (Dayton Daily News) is always anxious to potray President Bush as behind or in trouble in his efforts to carry Ohio. The last poll, as I recall, had Kerry up by 3-4 points, a sharp contrast to the Plain Dealer poll, which shows Bush leading beyond the margin of error. I'm sure the Daily News will bury that poll in one of the back sections. Of course, it goes without saying that a Republican has never won the White House in modern time without carrying Ohio, and conventional wisdom says that a GOP candidate must do well in southern Ohio, and suburban and rural areas across the state to win...this is good news; I only hope it holds.
This link:
http://newslink.org/topstate.html
Is to the top 255 newspapers in the U.S. Having read most of them from time to time over the last couple of years I have concluded that the overwhelming majority of them are liberal. I'm guessing 80 to 90%.
We have won the war in Afghan and Iraq, we are winning the peace, and W will win in November, you betcha
Neither the U.S. Census Bureau nor the Bureau of Labor Statistics nor the Bureau of Labor & Statistics nor the Bureau of Economic Analysis nor the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond nor the Department of Housing and Urban Development include Statesville in the Charlotte Metropolitan Area. In fact, they all do what all right-thinking people do: they totally ignore it. That's good enough for me...
"The same problems exist just across the border in Western PA. Bush should be strong in SE Ohio and Western PA; he ain't."
SE Ohio and W PA are Appalachia. The economy hasn't been any good there in forty years since coal and steel began to play out. And it has not been a strong republican area, historically.
Fact is, jobs are picking up briskly in the Cleveland area, if not the City itself; but there are a large clot of braindead democrats who will never admit it, like the parasite from Toledo, even as they leave the house for their job every morning.
PING.
Hmm.. It's just one Bureau or Labor & Statistics. Dunno what's up with that stutter! =)
When the map opens you will just have to click on Miecklenburg county-link didn't open the exact map I wanted.
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