Posted on 05/27/2004 4:01:55 PM PDT by bleach
Very good description of him. The media likes to make him out to be hot-headed and irrational when is the exact opposite. It is scary to think of what kind of "yes-man" they will want to hire as his replacement.
So by your definition anyone who is issued a concealed carry permits, open carries or engages is hunting with a firearm is committing an act of terrorism.
Chevy Z28, you've already admitted you don't know what the laws are governing the interstate transporation of firearms, what the Patriot Act covers, the concept of reasonable officer discretion (although I'm sure you understand what it means when one of your fellow LEO's commits and infraction), and that you don't support the right of the citizens to peaceably carry firearms. I think were pretty much done here.
"Very good description of him. The media likes to make him out to be hot-headed and irrational when is the exact opposite. It is scary to think of what kind of "yes-man" they will want to hire as his replacement."
Its only the truth. As for what kind of "yes man" they want, its fairly obvious they want a black "Snowden" to replace him.
In 1996, I was hired by Don Trundle (spelling) head of the Cincinnati Public Housing, to conduct an investigation into crack cocaine sales at the old Lincoln Court projects (since torn down after millions of dollars of renovation). We documented via surviellance camera's approximately 2.5 million in curbside sales of crack cocaine. The approximately 100 hours of video, plus over 700 still pictures were distilled down into a 20 minute presentation that Trundle showed to City Council in 1997.
Snowden's response? "Its all fake"....I swear its true.
We also documented a dirty cop nicknamed "tiny" that was in fact behind the sale of the crack cocaine, but we didn't include that in the video for public consumption. Snowden refused to even listen.....three years later an internal investigation finally nailed "tiny"....of course by that time Snowden had retired.
A day never goes by that I don't thank God I no longer live in Cincinnati.
And not one goes by that I don't pray to get out of Cincinnati, as far away and as quickly as possible.
I love the state and the people but it is one of the worst in the South as far as civil liberties. My Nephew is a state bureau of investigation agent.
They really love to control their people.
I knew a cop in Western N.C. for many years. In fact we were very close friends. One day I was with him at a little store which was also a Greyhound Bus Stop. This was around 40 years ago.
He noticed a young man with a bulge in the back of his pocket. The cop grabbed him, pulled the little .25 auto out of his pocket and calmly began to question him. It turned out the kid was a college student on his way home.
After making sure in his own mind the kid was no criminal, he gave the gun back to him and told him to keep it in his carry on bag unloaded until he got home.
I am sure you would have arrested him. I suppose you also enforce every single traffic law. After all, you swore to do so.
BTW it doesn't matter what N.C. law is regarding transporting guns across state lines. Federal law demands you allow it as long as the gun is unloaded and stored in the trunk or other inaccessable location.
From what I've seen, most of the "low lifes" they "deal with" are dealt with under authority of unconstitutional laws promulgated using a absurd expansion of the commerce clause.
. . .for me, the show makes me care less and less about whether the officers follow every single letter of the law.
Do you comprehend the outcome of being a nation of rule by men instead of rule by law, even if that rule by men happens to agree with your viewpoint of what a "low life" is?
Somebody needs to get a grip on reality instead of the fantasy that justice or the Constitution matters in our courts. If you think that the police are on one team, you're on the other team, and the court is an impartial referee, then you've been watching too much television. One team has the cops, the prostitutors, the judge, *your lawyer*, and the jailer on it. Hint: you're not on that team and they cheat. Furthermore, I'd like to see a single 1983 case won by anyone who didn't employ an enemy spy (a lawyer) who stood to get a fat kickback. Odds are, there ought to be at least *one* - in the last *30 years*. I won't bother waiting for a win that won't show up. In any event, while the state may fork out some cash from time to time, rarely, if ever, is their power diminished by any precedent set and they only fork out any cash when its politically unavoidable. Even in state court cases where they pay the cases are usually unpublished so the next unfortunate sap has to go through the same song and dance as the first guy and if he hasn't got the same Al Sharpton cheerleading section rooting for him he's SOL. We now resume our regularly scheduled broadcast of "Law and Order" already in progress...
You could have had Lee P. Brown as your mayor for 6 yrs!
Did you hear about Houston's Crime Lab?
Did you hear about Houston's traffic?
Did you hear about Houston's Pension Fund?
Did you hear about Lee P. Brown's Air Mileage?
Did you hear about Houston's Fire Dept staffing/management?
Did you hear about Houston's Police Dept staffing/management?
There's more, but it's depressing.
"So by your definition anyone who is issued a concealed carry permits, open carries or engages is hunting with a firearm is committing an act of terrorism."
These are your words, not mine. If I have a complaintant, and there is probable cause to arrest, then I will arrest, or write a citation depending on the person's attitude and the circumstances surrounding the incident. If there is no probable cause, then NO, I will not arrest. The thing is, I can not just ignore the complaint of another just because you think I should, anymore than I could ignore your complaint. I don't expect you to understand or even agree, but you do have to live with it like it or not. I am a gun owner, I DO, regardless of what you say, respect others rights. But answer me this, where do your rights to carry a gun end and another's to not have you carrying a gun around them or their family begin? I will tell you where, as defined by law and upheld in court test, after test, after test, in the public. Yes in our state you do have the right to carry concealed. You also have the right to open carry, however if your carrying scares someone then you have violated the law plain and simple. One of the reasons our crime rate is so high is because the law is not really enforced to the letter or spirit in which it was intended. I can tell, you are one those people that bitch and whine about the crime rate and how you have to carry a gun to feel safe, then get mad at me for doing the job you and others like you are paying your hard earned money in taxes for me to do. If I see someone carrying a shot gun or rifle in their truck, then I will not stop them, unless they do something else illegal. In which I will check the guns to make sure they have not been used in a crime or reported stolen. If I find them clear, then I will let that person go on their merry way.
You know what is even funnier, you are angry at me for a Law that has been on the books longer than you or I have been alive. Well, at least before I was alive anyway. I am only 32, I have no idea what your age is.
The law entitled, "Going Armed to the Terror of the People" is a COMMON LAW.
Each individual state has the right to regulate how and under what circumstances guns are allowed to be carried. However, if a gun is in the trunk, which is what state law here in NC says, then there is no problem. I never said any different. You like the other poster just assume I would do differently just because I say I would enforce the law as I have sworn to do.
I can not win for loosing with you people. If I don't enforce the law, then I am a waste of tax payer money. If I do enforce the law, then I am a communist. Either way, according to you I am wrong.
The law entitled, "Going Armed to the Terror of the People" is a COMMON LAW.
I don’t think that covers “responsibly” or “peaceably” carrying a weapon, of which I stated several times over in this thread as a condition of carrying, yet you still fail to grasp that concept.
The law says what it says, a concept you fail to grasp.
Originally posted by ChevyZ28
I will now address the second question. Have you been hiding under a rock since September 11, 2001 and the Columbine killings? Anyone who is carrying a gun, or any other kind of weapon is going to terrorize people. I don't care how responsible acting the wearer of the gun is.
It appears to me that my understanding of you defintion of terrorism is correct.
Yep, apparently anyone armed is a terrorist to this guy.
Scary stuff.
Originally posted by ChevyZ28:
"One of the reasons our crime rate is so high is because the law is not really enforced to the letter or spirit in which it was intended. I can tell, you are one those people that bitch and whine about the crime rate and how you have to carry a gun to feel safe, then get mad at me for doing the job you and others like you are paying your hard earned money in taxes for me to do."
Actually, I'm not one of those people who bitch and whine about the crime rate. I take responsibility for my own safety as the chances of an LEO being around when I need one are going to be about nil. I also take full responsibilty for the few crimes that I have been a victim of as I should have taken more common sense precautions.
No, your understanding is incorrect. I deal with people all of the time. I can tell you, there is not one thing you or I can do about how they feel when they see you coming with a gun. They will be terrorized. Trust me on this. I get called out to investigate the same man constantly and all he is doing is carrying his groceries from the grocery store. He is not committing a crime. BUT, someone is terrorized or they would not call us out to investigate.
I will tell you the same thing I told another poster. I can not win with you people. If I don't enforce the law as I am sworn to do, then I am a waste of tax payer money. If I do, then I am a communist in your eyes.
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