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1 posted on 05/25/2004 9:09:30 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hasn't Mz. Duddy-Burke already disregarded Catholic church teachings?


2 posted on 05/25/2004 9:11:23 AM PDT by alisasny (SMARTY JONES FOR SECRETARY OF OFFENSE)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The true Catholics are taking back the Church from the friends of Hillary and Antonio Gramsci


3 posted on 05/25/2004 9:12:48 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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"That's pretty strong language," Rushford said on hearing the paragraph yesterday.

Truth, properly and boldly stated, usually is.

4 posted on 05/25/2004 9:12:48 AM PDT by FormerLib (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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``Oh, my God. Wow,'' gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics.

Apparently Marianne has no grasp of the God or Bible she pretends to believe in.


5 posted on 05/25/2004 9:13:41 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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``That's pretty strong language,'' Rushford said on hearing the paragraph yesterday.

Oh, no, no, nonono. Can't have any of that, of course. [::rolls eyes::]

6 posted on 05/25/2004 9:13:52 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.''

Render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's. But give to God, that which is God's.

Moral issues are the purview of the Church. The Church cares about your soul. The Civil Servant's duty to the entire community does not overlap these issues in anyway.

7 posted on 05/25/2004 9:14:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.

She thinks the Bishop is a civil servant? Oh, words fail me!

9 posted on 05/25/2004 9:16:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS - the anti-liberal!)
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Ping


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10 posted on 05/25/2004 9:16:31 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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"...Protestant faith traditions that consider the unions of same-sex couples worth blessing.''

Not this Protestants faith.


11 posted on 05/25/2004 9:17:44 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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``Oh, my God. Wow,'' gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics. ``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.''

Okay, Butch. Since when is a bishop a "civil servant"? He gets a stipend from tithes, not taxes.

Your existence is "appalling on so many levels", to me, Butch.

13 posted on 05/25/2004 9:18:39 AM PDT by Old Sarge (It's not Bush's fault - It's THE MEDIA'S fault!)
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How telling.

``Oh, my God. Wow,'' gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics. ``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.''

Of course, the Bishop is hardly a "civil servant", but instead a spiritual servant. The idea of an "apostolic" witness and adherent to the transcendant truth is beyond the understanding of those, so called, "Christians" that see the faith as nothing but a veiled apparatus for social improvement or change based upon a loose set of Enlightenment values.

In the thinking of such people, the servant reports to the General Will, not to God.

14 posted on 05/25/2004 9:20:46 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31655-2004May16_2.html

It's been an emotional roller coaster," said Marianne Duddy-Burke, 43, of the period since the SJC decision. She plans to be married to her partner of 10 years at a Boston hotel in June, but added a clause to the reservation contract so she would not lose her deposit if legal circumstances change.

Google Marianne LOL


16 posted on 05/25/2004 9:23:41 AM PDT by alisasny (SMARTY JONES FOR SECRETARY OF OFFENSE)
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Interesting. Was just there this past week, and got the strong impression that Worcester is not in-sync with radical-liberal Metro Boston 40 miles or so to the east.

This confirms it.

Major props to the bishop.

Excuse me, I have to step out for a while so I can look for the definitive "Church teachings on inclusivity" the city clerk referred to. Is that something Jesus said, is it in an encyclical, or did I miss it in the Catechism?


17 posted on 05/25/2004 9:23:59 AM PDT by litany_of_lies
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``Not only is he villainizing gay and lesbian couples and Catholics who support civil rights,'' Friedes said, ``he is also attacking reform Jews and Protestant faith traditions that consider the unions of same-sex couples worth blessing.''

Yes. And his point would be that this is a bad thing?

18 posted on 05/25/2004 9:24:03 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What's up with the Catholic Bishops lately? Whatever it is they're drinking maybe they could send the Republicans in the House and Senate a case or two.


19 posted on 05/25/2004 9:24:04 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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he is also attacking reform Jews and Protestant faith traditions that consider the unions of same-sex couples worth blessing.''

A tradition since 1998? Right. The only "Protestant faiths" that endorse homosexual "marriage" are pro-abortion, pro-sodomy, self-worshipping perversions of Christianity.

22 posted on 05/25/2004 9:27:17 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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The new leader of the Catholic Diocese of Worcester stunned gay rights supporters by writing in a church newsletter that Catholics, especially public officials, pushing to legalize same-sex marriage are "in cooperation with evil."

That would seem to be in line with Catholic doctrine. I can't see why they'd be stunned.

"Oh, my God. Wow," gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics. "It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community."

And just what is a civil servant's duty to the entire community? To perform his duties as prescribed by law regardless of his own moral convictions?

Responding to Worcester City Clerk David Rushford's public statements that allowing gays and lesbians to marry is in line with church teachings on inclusivity, Worcester Bishop Robert McManus penned a "pastoral note of clarification" published Friday.

Bishop McManus, having noted that a prominent and influential member of his community had misstated Catholic doctrine, set the record straight. As is his duty to the entire community. And especially that part of the community that states that it is Roman Catholic, which apparently includes Ms. Duddy-Burke.

After recognizing gays and lesbians as "brothers and sisters in the human family,"

Not a conflict; one's family members can be in grave error and still be members of the family.

the note ends with a bombshell: "Moreover, it must be pointed out that Catholics, especially public officials, who willingly and with approval facilitate the legal sanctioning of same-sex unions are involving themselves in cooperation with evil."

I'm not clear on the bombshell. Is it the information that the Bishop stated, or the fact that he had the guts to put it so publicly and plainly? Discuss.

"That's pretty strong language," Rushford said on hearing the paragraph yesterday.

Well, brother Rushford, apparently you weren't listening when he (or He) was more subtle. If you read the Bible, Jesus often favored strong language. When he did use more subtle literary devices, he often then immediately explained them in plain language afterwards.

"I just would hope that people from all walks of life and our society would agree that the civil rights of individuals are not debatable."

Well, actually, they are. It is at least debatable as to what is properly considered a civil right and what isn't.

Diocesan spokesman Ray Delisle cautioned that McManus was writing in the precise "language of moral theology."

Yeah, I'd say that language was precise.

Josh Friedes, advocacy director of the Freedom to Marry Coalition, said, "Not only is he villainizing gay and lesbian couples and Catholics who support civil rights,"

If telling someone that they are sinning is villianizing them, then that's exactly what he's doing. At least, the first part. He's not villianizing Catholics who support civil rights, just those who support same-sex marriage. There's a difference.

Friedes said, "he is also attacking reform Jews and Protestant faith traditions that consider the unions of same-sex couples worth blessing."

I was unaware that a Roman Catholic Bishop was supposed to worry about those things.

23 posted on 05/25/2004 9:30:15 AM PDT by RonF
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". . ..``Oh, my God. Wow,'' gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics. ``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.'' . . ."

SOmeone needs to tell this mangirl that a Bishop is GODS Servant - not a civil servant. As GODS servant Bishop McManus has done his duty well!


25 posted on 05/25/2004 9:35:36 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Those who serve two masters also have two faces)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.''

I don't recall the pastor's calling and charge being given from the gay marriage factory (formerly known as city hall)or the Massachusetts Supremes....

The man's DUTY is to be faithful to God, and prophetically truthful in the declaration, interpretation and application of the Holy Scriptures.

Just a polite reminder for Ms. Duddy-Burke

Regards,

26 posted on 05/25/2004 9:36:15 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is found by asking the right questions)
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Josh Friedes, advocacy director of the Freedom to Marry Coalition, said, ``Not only is he villainizing gay and lesbian couples and Catholics who support civil rights,'' Friedes said, ``he is also attacking reform Jews and Protestant faith traditions that consider the unions of same-sex couples worth blessing.''

I certainly hope so.

30 posted on 05/25/2004 9:41:13 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective , freedom is the obstacle.)
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