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".. Asked whether Karpinski could face criminal charges, Schilf did not answer directly, but said, "This action doesn't close any doors."

"It's under review now," Schilf said of possible further steps regarding Karpinski. "It's ensuing from Major General Taguba's report. And the review is under way. And we don't know exactly how long it will take. But we want to be thorough and don't want to let any grass grow under it." .."

1 posted on 05/25/2004 12:18:48 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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U.S. Army Suspends General

...by what? Her piercings, I'm just mean enough to hope.

2 posted on 05/25/2004 12:21:52 AM PDT by RichInOC (...that's a man, baby.)
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General Karpinski

3 posted on 05/25/2004 12:23:21 AM PDT by ambrose (AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
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Never put a woman into a mans job. The results, as in this case, are disturbing to say the least.


4 posted on 05/25/2004 12:23:32 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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I'm happy to see the beginning of process being brought against the idiot General "in charge". I suspect it's not the end of it. At a minimum, her army career is over.

BTW --- The Reuters article is much better than the AP article on the same subject. AP suggested that General Sanchez merely admonished General Karpinski even though the Taguba Report wanted him to be tougher on her. Since General Sanchez' admonishment occurred almost immediately after Central Command became aware of the pictures and BEFORE any formal investigation had occurred, this is extremely misleading. Unfortunately, the AP wire report will be picked up by many newspapers, and the sheeple will not know better.
5 posted on 05/25/2004 12:29:12 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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9 posted on 05/25/2004 1:25:02 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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While Gen. Karpinski does bear some of the responsibility, she is apparently correct on one point..

Authority was taken from her, and given to military intelligence..
This is verified in Gen. Taguba's report..

3. (U) In addition to MG Ryder’s and MG Miller’s Reports, the team reviewed numerous reference materials including the 12 October 2003 CJTF-7 Interrogation and Counter-Resistance Policy, the AR 15-6 Investigation on Riot and Shootings at Abu Ghraib on 24 November 2003, the 205thMI Brigade’s Interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROE), facility staff logs/journals and numerous records of AR 15-6 investigations and Serious Incident Reports (SIRs) on detainee escapes/shootings and disciplinary matters from the 800th MP Brigade. (ANNEXES 5-20, 37, 93, and 94)

The October 12 policy statement has been noted as the "unofficial" takeover, just a week or so before the charged abuses began to take place..
On Nov. 19, 2003, authority was "officially" (written orders were signed) transferred to Military Intelligence..

Very shortly thereafter, leaks concerning abuse began to emerge.. note the Nov. 24 2003 Riot and Shooting incident above..

It's all well and good to investigate Gen. Karpinski, and charge her with relevent failures of command.. If she's found guilty, she should be punished according to the UCMJ..
The fact that she was a female General Officer may well have to do with the laxness of her command..
But it also probably had to do with the ease with which the Military Intelligence command was able to usurp and override her authority...
She should have raised a big stink about it, right up the chain of command, generating tons of paperwork.. traceable paperwork..

There are others responsible here.. Sanchez, most probably.... Miller, by all reports, another..
Taguba himself, may be covering his own butt as well..

We will see what we will see...

13 posted on 05/25/2004 2:23:26 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom.... not just a job, ... It's An Adventure!!!)
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Ya know I just realaized I am sexist. This in itself is odd, since I was totally raised in the feminist era. Bras had already been burned by the time I became an adult.

I find myself thinking Good - they got rid of the dike. She either slept her way to the top or threatened her way to the top. I am sure she wasn't chosen because she was more qualified than any other Officer.

There are times that I do not want to take a chance that a woman was not the most qualified - for instance Doctors. Although a women Doctor might be the most qualified - why take a chance? I certainly would not hire a women body guard, nor would I go to a church that has a women minister.
America's defense falls into this catagory.






18 posted on 05/25/2004 4:21:10 AM PDT by ODDITHER
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Suspend? I believe the correct term is "relieved of command."


21 posted on 05/25/2004 5:03:33 AM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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Karpinski was relieved of command back when she was a captain because whe was unable to control the troops. That alone should have ended her career but I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that she was kept on because of political correctness.


23 posted on 05/25/2004 5:39:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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