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1 posted on 05/23/2004 5:27:07 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

Ron Brown was about to blow the lid on a bunch of Clinon crimes (some of which we probably still don't know about), so the Clintons had him killed. Its just that simple. And President or not, there is no statute of limitations on murder.


2 posted on 05/23/2004 5:32:24 PM PDT by wagglebee
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DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON SECTION: BEHIND THE TREASON ALLEGATIONS SUBSECTION: RON BROWN
4 posted on 05/23/2004 5:39:39 PM PDT by FReepaholic (War On Terror: If not us, who? If not now, when?)
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All very interesting.

I'd also like to know more about the death of Barbara Wise, Commerce Department staffer.

Wise worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. She died November 29, 1996, her bruised, nude body found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Her death was attributed to "natural causes."

5 posted on 05/23/2004 5:40:53 PM PDT by martin_fierro (</pith>)
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To: Peach

I'm not big on conspiracy theories but the Ron Brown story is begging for truthful investigation. There are too many major facts that point to his murder.


7 posted on 05/23/2004 5:45:41 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Peach

Well, I never knew quite what to make of Brown's unfortunate death, along with so many others! But this is a fair sounding review of the book.


9 posted on 05/23/2004 5:47:45 PM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: Peach

Here's some more on Ron Brown. The circumstances of his death are even more curious considering the full extent of his involvement in the Clinton administration.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127191/posts

http://www.theshop.net/faithpub/a1con/conmiller2.html


10 posted on 05/23/2004 5:48:52 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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21 posted on 05/23/2004 6:15:51 PM PDT by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
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To: Peach

bump


34 posted on 05/23/2004 6:34:20 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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To: Peach
Peach, loved the comment about your aunt! LOL!
I won't buy this book if it is a sanitized version, which is what it appears to be. We get better info here from freepers.
40 posted on 05/23/2004 7:02:28 PM PDT by ladyinred (Torture is what happened to Nick Berg!)
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but.........but........when Brown's plane went down, I'm sure I heard Brokaw (broke-jaw?) say it was "the biggest storm in 10 years....


42 posted on 05/23/2004 7:19:34 PM PDT by isom35
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ILS mystery BUMP.

Jammer
46 posted on 05/23/2004 7:48:01 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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Much was made in the media about the "bad weather" Brown's plane tried to land in--that it had been terrible all day. An earlier report of the accident I read checked the weather available to air traffic that day, and it was actually a pretty good day for that area--even this article mentions that Enron's execs arrived in their own plane an hour earlier. I wish I could remember who put the report out--I am terrible about keeping a file on things. It came from a conservative source as one of several reports given for subscribing, and it just laid out the facts like the weather; the cylindrical hole in Brown's head and the refusal of further investigtion; the "suicide" of the Croatian guy in charge of the landing signal the plane came in on on the very day he was to be questioned about why the landing beam seemed to be lined up directly with the mountain.

The media blitz at the time also made a big deal about the plane using a compass to come in for a landing, but it was new and modern and planes don't depend on a compass. The plane was also observed to make a desperate last minute effort to turn from the mountain and the actual crash was caused by the wing tip hitting because of the extreme banking--it had been following the
landing beam coming directly from the mountain, and got close enough to visually see where it was heading.

I don't see conspiracy everywhere, but darned if there aren't some things where there just has to be one of some kind--Waco, OKC bombing, Vince Foster, Brown's death (incidently, his law partner was murdered in Africa (unsolved) the same day Brown's plane crashed) and then the death of the young woman in the Commerce building-also unsolved or not even investigated.

vaudine


47 posted on 05/23/2004 8:07:53 PM PDT by vaudine
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This is the nexus at which a conspiracy is born. Had investigators simply performed an autopsy, all the questions could have been answered. But they didn't.

I'm not saying Brown wasn't murdered, but the above statement is patently false. There are lots of cases where autopsies were performed and yet questions still persist.

54 posted on 05/23/2004 9:07:07 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Peach

We KNOW Jerry Parks was assassinated.


55 posted on 05/23/2004 9:07:59 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: BOBWADE; Mrs Zip

Post 21 ping


56 posted on 05/23/2004 9:12:47 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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Cashill is, indeed, a professional conspiracy theorist. Ron Brown was as crooked as eighty miles of Bosnian backroads, but his death was all but inevitable -- the aircrew was attempting to make an instrument approach without the proper instruments. That is a rare killer of military pilots, but a pretty common cause of crashes overall. There were many factors that contributed to this crash, but almost all of them were under the control of the Air Force unit and crew that flew the mission.

Before anyone gets too excited about Brown's death, they need to read the 51-3 on the mishap (or the extracts from it available in about three or four books for aviators and crash investigators, not stuff written by laymen for laymen). I can explain what happened for the technically savvy. (In brief: They were flying an approach that required two separate ADFs -- a common panel set-up in Third Worldian machinery, but not in USAF jets. One ADF tuned to one NDB gave them the course to fly, and the second ADF tuned to another beacon told them when to go missed. Without ADF #2 they never executed a missed approach and CFIT'd instead).

NDB approaches are difficult and seldom practiced by US-based pilots or major airline pilots elsewhere (a bungled NDB approach causes about one airline crash every three years or so). Most large airports have superior blind-landing equipment (indeed, even Dubrovnik had better stuff, but it got ripped off or destroyed during the Balkan wars) so flying the ancient NDB is a dying art.

There were organizational issues also. The whole wing flying that mission was screwed up, and the crew was terminally screwed up (literally). They paid with their lives, as did Brown and the members of the trade delegation (who had paid big bucks to fly with him). The commanders who had can-do'd the unit into exhaustion (a not uncommon outcome in Clinton years) were all sacked, IIRC.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
59 posted on 05/23/2004 9:38:00 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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Old file:

Was Ron Brown Assassinated? Take Two....

64 posted on 05/24/2004 1:40:13 AM PDT by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
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Hydrant Marking for later


65 posted on 05/24/2004 1:46:30 AM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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Ron Brown Could Tell Tales From the Grave
Kansas City Star | May 23, 2004 | Dawn Harris


Posted on 05/23/2004 5:27:07 PM PDT by Peach


Ron Brown could tell tales from the grave

By DAWN HARRIS Special to The Star

You'd think that after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, we'd have learned our lesson. We didn't.

As with JFK's murder in 1963, two recent events have been marked by conspiracy theories and bungled investigations: the crash of TWA Flight 800 and the plane crash that killed then Commerce Secretary Ron Brown.

But don't count Kansas City author Jack Cashill as a garden-variety conspiracy theorist. Although the title of his new book suggests both the conspiratorial and the partisan, Cashill bends over backward to include the most benign of explanations to a most disturbing case.

Ron Brown's Body: How One Man's Death Saved the Clinton Presidency and Hillary's Future will be like salt in wounds for many of Bill Clinton's defenders, yet not nearly salty enough for his adversaries. In it, Cashill paints a human and sympathetic portrait of Brown, Clinton's Secretary of Commerce.

Cashill depicts Brown with the help of details provided by Nolanda Hill, Brown's longtime business partner and lover, also the subject of numerous investigations related to Brown's activities. Hill seems to have poured out her heart — and her recollections — to Cashill because she became convinced that he wanted to discover what really happened to Brown and his doomed 1996 flight to Dubrovnik, Croatia.

The tale is a twisted one. At times, especially early in the work, Cashill seems to have six synapses firing at once and doesn't know which one to follow. But as the narrative unfolds, that sense gives way to riveting storytelling.

Brown made frequent trade missions to foreign countries, often with leaders of industry in tow. His aim was to smooth the way for these Americans to conduct business with other countries.

Cashill reports that the way for an American businessman to get a seat on one of those missions was to make a substantial contribution to the Democratic National Committee, which was producing ads at the time for the presidential campaign in an effort to get around campaign contribution and spending limits. Once these businessmen made such contributions, they expected something in return — something Brown was expected to deliver.

As the 1996 election approached, Brown was sent on more of these trade missions. On the ill-fated trip, he was to be accompanied by executives of Enron Corp. But those executives traveled to Dubrovnik on a plane that landed about an hour ahead of the time at which the secretary was to arrive.

He never made it. On April 3, the plane on which he was traveling with 34 other people veered off course and crashed into St. John's Peak. Investigators did not locate the wreckage until hours later, and the one woman to survive impact died on the way to the hospital.

The story might have ended there. But there was something odd about Ron Brown's lifeless body. He had suffered a circular wound in the top of his head. Some military investigators and photographers noticed what appeared to them to be a bullet hole. But strangely, no mention of the symmetrically shaped cylinder appeared in any report on the crash, and although an Air Force doctor examined Brown's body, a full autopsy was not ordered.

This is the nexus at which a conspiracy is born. Had investigators simply performed an autopsy, all the questions could have been answered. But they didn't.

Cashill has a theory about exactly what happened to Ron Brown (which I leave for the reader to discover) and why it happened. The “why” involves Brown's apparent knowledge of the Clintons' involvement in using international means, including ties with China, in what may have been blatant circumventions of campaign finance law. Cashill goes to great pains to make clear the difference between what has been documented and what he surmises from the evidence.

Cashill meticulously researched this work, consulting with experts on everything from campaign finance law to aircraft navigation systems to encryption technology to Ron Brown's life, personal and professional.

In scrupulous detail, the author chronicles Brown's life as the young lawyer made his way through Washington and became entwined in Democratic politics. He connects the dots between Brown and President Clinton. But he does not lay blame at Clinton's doorstep, as some might expect. Cashill doesn't let Brown off the hook for getting himself entangled in a life of power grabs and money lust. He does view Brown as a tragic figure, someone who had potential but who was spoiled by license and largesse.

We don't know if fate or force brought that plane down in Dubrovnik. Cashill emphasizes that it is entirely possible that what happened to Ron Brown was an accident riddled with unfortunate coincidence. But Cashill, who holds a doctorate in American studies, knows a conspiracy is hard to come by without someone acting as if someone had something to hide.

After living through the aftermath of the Kennedy assassination, one would think that, in similar circumstances, all possible leads would be followed so that the ghosts that haunt us from that fateful day in Dallas would not multiply but be cast into the light and disappear. But because of the action (or inaction) of investigators, questions linger over Brown's death.

Cashill also recently investigated the crash of TWA Flight 800, and because this book comes on the heels of that, some might dismiss him as just another too-eager conspiracy theorist. That would be a harmful oversimplification. Many others have taken issue with the official findings on Flight 800, including Cap Parlier, a respected former Navy test pilot who co-wrote a book on the crash.

As for Ron Brown's Body, the book does sound shrill notes now and again and takes a partisan shot here and there. But if half of what Cashill writes is true, all Americans, regardless of political affiliations, should demand a full investigation into Ron Brown's activities as Commerce Secretary and into the circumstances of his death.




Cashill at Unity

Jack Cashill will discuss and sign Ron Brown's Body: How One Man's Death Saved the Clinton Presidency and Hillary's Future, at 7 p.m. Wednesday at Unity Temple on the Plaza, 707 W. 47th St. For more information call Rainy Day Books at (913) 384-3126.





67 posted on 05/24/2004 3:26:52 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: Peach

Interesting post!


68 posted on 05/24/2004 3:43:09 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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