Posted on 05/23/2004 1:22:17 PM PDT by Aetius
After U.S. troops captured former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, the Gallup poll found Bushs approval rating was over 60 percent. It is now down to 46 percent. Six months ago more than half of those surveyed were satisfied with the direction of the country; now, almost two-thirds are dissatisfied. The precipitous slide gives the Democrats improved electoral prospects this fall in the House and Senate, according to a report in the LA Times.
In the House, where 218 seats constitute a majority, there currently are 228 Republicans, 205 Democrats, one independent who routinely votes with the Democrats and a vacant seat. In the Senate, there are 51 Republicans, 48 Democrats and one independent who usually sides with the Democrats.
Just a year ago Democrats doubted they could recapture either chamber despite the relatively narrow margins.
But the continuing grim headlines from Iraq and a yet wavering confidence in the economy are not only impacting Bush but working to the detriment of Republicans in Congress -- generally.
What a Difference a Year Makes
Just a short year ago, confident GOP leaders looked to expand their narrow control of the House and Senate to establish a durable majority that would dominate national politics into the next decade.
But that was then --
The psychology has changed from one of [achieving] a permanent victory to maintaining the status quo, said Michael Franc, a Republican who is a vice president of the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank in Washington.
Despite the opem window of opportunity, Democrats must still somehow morph the general voter discontent into key victories.
Abetting the party in the struggle for the Senate is the unexpected strength of Democratic candidates in several Bush strongholds, as well as retirements by GOP incumbents. As for the bid to take over the House, a good dose of momentum would come if they won an open seat in heavily Republican South Dakota a potential second Democratic victory in a special House election this year.
Many Republicans are relieved that Election Day is not right around the corner, reports the Times.
This is just the beginning of the summer, said Rep. Zach Wamp, R-Tenn. But if we get to Labor Day and we have these numbers in the polls, we have a big problem.
Part of that big problem is already here, however.
Recent polls indicate that the Democratic Party had gained an edge over the GOP when people were asked how they would vote in congressional elections.
A Time/CNN poll found that 53 percent said they would vote for a Democratic candidate for Congress in their district, compared with 40 percent who said they would back the Republican.
A survey for the Associated Press reported that that 50 percent wanted Democrats to win control of Congress, compared with 41 percent favoring the Republicans.
Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center for People and the Press, said such results probably reflected weakening support for Bush rather than a solid indication of voting intentions, adding, No president gets turned out of office without taking some of his brethren in Congress with him.
Harbinger of Political Swing
Furthermore, some Republican strategists say such soundings of public opinion are too generic to predict the outcomes in specific House races, which often are determined by local concerns. Other GOP leaders, however, worry that if these polls are the harbinger of a political swing that lasts into the fall, House seats not now competitive will become so.
If that really is the mood of the country well have races that turn from monkeys into gorillas, said Rep. Thomas M. Davis (R-Va.), former chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee.
In the meantime, First Lady Laura Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have been stumping for congressional candidates -- hoping to prevent the evolution of a hostile Congress to dog the presidents second term if successful at the polls in November.
Other Factors in the Mix
In the House, new district lines drawn after the 2000 census made safe seats even safer and reduced the potentially competitive ones to a few dozen, according to the Times report. Furthermore, Texas legislators redrew House districts in the state to give Republicans the potential to gain as many as six seats there.
In the Senate, the fight also began with a disadvantage for the Democrats because they had to defend 19 seats up for election, compared with the GOPs 16.
Adding to the grim picture, Democratic senators from the South, a region Republicans have come to claim, opted not to seek reelection.
But some breaks are cutting to the advantage of the Democrats.
Last month, Republican Rep. Jack Quinn of New York announced he would retire, opening a House seat that Democrats have a chance to win.
A Democrat won a special election in Kentucky, taking over a GOP-held seat.
In South Dakotas looming special election, Democrat Stephanie Herseth has been leading Republican Larry Diedrich in the polls. The vote will fill the seat vacated when Republican Rep. William J. Janklow was convicted of a lesser degree of manslaughter after running a stop sign and killing a motorcyclist.
Flipping back to the other side of the coin, Democrats suffered a hit when party incumbents in Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina and South Carolina decided to retire.
However, reports the Times, the GOP appears to have garnered a clear advantage only in Georgia.
According to battle plans, Democrats hope to gain seats in Colorado, Illinois and Oklahoma seats opened by GOP retirements. The Democratic candidate in Illinois is favored to win there, and the party has fielded strong contenders in the other two states.
Republican stronghold Alaska is going down to the wire. Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski faces a primary challenge from the right and. Even if she prevails, she will then face strong Democratic opposition from former governor Tony Knowles.
Dimming GOP Prospects
Taking a hard new look at the overall developments, Jennifer E. Duffy, an analyst with the nonpartisan Cook Political Report, said that in her estimation, the GOP chances of keeping control of the Senate has fallen to about 60 percent. Earlier this year, she had rated that prospect at 90 percent.
We are in an extremely volatile environment, said Sen. Jon Corzine, D-N.J., chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. There has been a major failure to manage the occupation in Iraq, which opens up peoples minds to the question of whether there has been competent management on a bunch of other issues.
Its an object lesson in how quickly things can change in this environment, said GOP pollster Whit Ayres, and how event-driven they are.
rat wet dream.
rat wet dream.
There's very little in this article that gives any credence to the Dems' ability to pick up control of the House. I'd be very surprised if they could do that. Look at the GOP's successful redistricting efforts in Texas, etc. Besides, those polls that give the Dems a 13 point lead for the Congressional generic are garbage. Even the Democracy Corps Poll (a Democrat org) shows the Dems up by just 2 points.
Plus, read this from Rasmussen on how polling questions for the House are very misleading: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Congressional_Ballot%20Survey.htm
"It is important to note that while surveys of Congressional ballot preference can measure broad trends and voter attitudes, they do not indicate likely results in the race for control of Congress.
In the House of Representatives, only a handful of the 435 races will truly be competitive. Incumbents, especially those who have served more than one term, rarely lose. So, barring a major shift of public attitudes in favor of the Democrats, it is highly unlikely that Democrats will regain control of the House."
And Rasmussen consistently shows the Dems leading by between 4 and 7 points or so!!
When are you going to stop blaming the Bush campaign and start blaming yourself for not following current events??
Your accusations are laughable.
"I hate to sound so pessimistic..." Then please don't be. Good grief! This is the AP talking. These main media types publish everything they can to bring down Bush's polls, then spin the result of their skewed polls, then more media bashing--and on. The Dems ARE NOT going to win the house or senate, period. If for some reason they should, we are totally, utterly down the drain.
So please don't jump on the AP bandwagon--just say no1
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Newsflash: It's the same war, General.
WTF. Congress voted for it, numb-nuts.
Joe, you evidently don't know about the War Powers Act.
Hasn't your Civics class covered that yet?
This is true. But aren't they going to go to bigger hammers for the pounding as the election nears? It's not as if they have emptied their guns. Each time I think that is it, they come up with something else. Frankly, I suspect the rats have one false scandal after another lined up til the election. Every time one of them fades, they trot out another and the media duly runs it as long as they can as the top story on the evening news.
Bush is going to have to pull a labor day miracle to slough off that pounding and right the campaign. Not saying he cannot do that. But as my brother points out whenever I complain about the media, that's the way it is and Republicans have to win despite the partisanship in the media. This year, the media is clearly going all-out, dropping any pretense of objectivity, to defeat George Bush. It is going to be a much bigger factor this year than normally. I usually figure the media is worth -5% for every republican in the country. This year that number is more like -10%. So we are all going to have to work harder because we have to win despite that.
I would sure like to see a better campaign being conducted. We have to be at least even steven on election day. Because, unless it's close on election day, the troops aren't gonna turn out. At this point, I'm not seeing a campaign that is likely to end up there.
Another advantage that they have is that at least one House seat is going to open this year. The incumbent was Republican Billy Tauzin, and the Republicans don't have a strong candidate to run in his place.
I still think that many voters are concerned about terrorism, and they know that Democrats really can't be trusted to keep Americans safe. I think those concerns will keep Democrats from making major gains this year.
And believers should not forget to pray for the most God-fearing/God-honoring president this country has seen in many years.
Jim -- Hats off to you, sir! Our first & foremost FReeper.
We've seen no such articles in the Washington Times, News Max, or WND or CNS. Some grumbling about the assault weapons ban, and illegals. We've seen articles in FR about the illegals getting rounded up by the hundreds lately and the new electronic stuff for the borders. GW is addressing the issue with the system and tools he has at hand.
The assault weapons ban will sunset I think. The spending can't be helped when his own party has their hands in the til. Some of it is necessary as it has ties to fixes in some cases.
How could somebody who's 100 percent pro-life, and 100 percent in favor of the Bush tax cuts, "wish for a GOP loss"? On the contrary, I FEAR that might happen, because of the Iraq problems.
Gen. Zinni doesn't think so. Schwarzkopf also thought it was a mistake from the first. They may be wrong, but they're as patriotic as you are. It doesn't make me a liberal, a leftist, a Democrat or a traitor because I happen to agree with them.
Ge. Zinni: "They screwed up."
May 23, 04 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/21/60minutes/main618896.shtml
CBS) Retired General Anthony Zinni is one of the most respected and outspoken military leaders of the past two decades. From 1997 to 2000, he was commander-in-chief of the United States Central Command, in charge of all American troops in the Middle East. That was the same job held by Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf before him, and Gen. Tommy Franks after.
Following his retirement from the Marine Corps, the Bush administration thought so highly of Zinni that it appointed him to one of its highest diplomatic posts -- special envoy to the Middle East.
But Zinni broke ranks with the administration over the war in Iraq, and now, in his harshest criticism yet, he says senior officials at the Pentagon are guilty of dereliction of duty -- and that the time has come for heads to roll. Correspondent Steve Kroft reports.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There has been poor strategic thinking in this, says Zinni. There has been poor operational planning and execution on the ground. And to think that we are going to stay the course, the course is headed over Niagara Falls. I think it's time to change course a little bit, or at least hold somebody responsible for putting you on this course. Because it's been a failure.
Zinni spent more than 40 years serving his country as a warrior and diplomat, rising from a young lieutenant in Vietnam to four-star general with a reputation for candor. Now, in a new book about his career, co-written with Tom Clancy, called "Battle Ready," Zinni has handed up a scathing indictment of the Pentagon and its conduct of the war in Iraq.
In the book, Zinni writes: "In the lead up to the Iraq war and its later conduct, I saw at a minimum, true dereliction, negligence and irresponsibility, at worse, lying, incompetence and corruption."
I think there was dereliction in insufficient forces being put on the ground and fully understanding the military dimensions of the plan. I think there was dereliction in lack of planning, says Zinni. The president is owed the finest strategic thinking. He is owed the finest operational planning. He is owed the finest tactical execution on the ground. He got the latter. He didnt get the first two.
Zinni says Iraq was the wrong war at the wrong time - with the wrong strategy. And he was saying it before the U.S. invasion. In the months leading up to the war, while still Middle East envoy, Zinni carried the message to Congress: This is, in my view, the worst time to take this on. And I dont feel it needs to be done now.
But he wasnt the only former military leader with doubts about the invasion of Iraq. Former General and National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft, former Centcom Commander Norman Schwarzkopf, former NATO Commander Wesley Clark, and former Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki all voiced their reservations.
Zinni believes this was a war the generals didnt want but it was a war the civilians wanted. I can't speak for all generals, certainly. But I know we felt that this situation was contained. Saddam was effectively contained. The no-fly, no-drive zones. The sanctions that were imposed on him, says Zinni. Now, at the same time, we had this war on terrorism. We were fighting al Qaeda. We were engaged in Afghanistan. We were looking at 'cells' in 60 countries. We were looking at threats that we were receiving information on and intelligence on. And I think most of the generals felt, let's deal with this one at a time. Let's deal with this threat from terrorism, from al Qaeda.
One of Zinni's responsibilities while commander-in-chief at Centcom was to develop a plan for the invasion of Iraq. Like his predecessors, he subscribed to the belief that you only enter battle with overwhelming force.
But Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld thought the job could be done with fewer troops and high-tech weapons.
How many troops did Zinnis plan call for? We were much in line with Gen. Shinseki's view, says Zinni. We were talking about, you know, 300,000, in that neighborhood.
What difference would it have made if 300,000 troops had been sent in, instead of 180,000? I think it's critical in the aftermath, if you're gonna go to resolve a conflict through the use of force, and then to rebuild the country, says Zinni.
The first requirement is to freeze the situation, is to gain control of the security. To patrol the streets. To prevent the looting. To prevent the 'revenge' killings that might occur. To prevent bands or gangs or militias that might not have your best interests at heart from growing or developing.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last month, Secretary Rumsfeld acknowledged that he hadn't anticipated the level of violence that would continue in Iraq a year after the war began. Should he have been surprised?
He should not have been surprised. You know, there were a number of people, before we even engaged in this conflict, that felt strongly we were underestimating the problems and the scope of the problems we would have in there, says Zinni. Not just generals, but others -- diplomats, those in the international community that understood the situation. Friends of ours in the region that were cautioning us to be careful out there. I think he should have known that.
Instead, Zinni says the Pentagon relied on inflated intelligence information about weapons of mass destruction from Iraqi exiles, like Ahmed Chalabi and others, whose credibility was in doubt. Zinni claims there was no viable plan or strategy in place for governing post-Saddam Iraq.
As best I could see, I saw a pickup team, very small, insufficient in the Pentagon with no detailed plans that walked onto the battlefield after the major fighting stopped and tried to work it out in the huddle -- in effect to create a seat-of-the-pants operation on reconstructing a country, says Zinni.
I give all the credit in the world to Ambassador Bremer as a great American who's serving his country, I think, with all the kind of sacrifice and spirit you could expect. But he has made mistake after mistake after mistake.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What mistakes?
Disbanding the army, says Zinni. De-Baathifying, down to a level where we removed people that were competent and didnt have blood on their hands that you needed in the aftermath of reconstruction alienating certain elements of that society.
Zinni says he blames the Pentagon for what happened. I blame the civilian leadership of the Pentagon directly. Because if they were given the responsibility, and if this was their war, and by everything that I understand, they promoted it and pushed it - certain elements in there certainly - even to the point of creating their own intelligence to match their needs, then they should bear the responsibility, he says.
But regardless of whose responsibility I think it is, somebody has screwed up. And at this level and at this stage, it should be evident to everybody that they've screwed up. And whose heads are rolling on this? That's what bothers me most.
Adds Zinni: If you charge me with the responsibility of taking this nation to war, if you charge me with implementing that policy with creating the strategy which convinces me to go to war, and I fail you, then I ought to go.
Who specifically is he talking about?
Well, it starts with at the top. If you're the secretary of defense and you're responsible for that. If you're responsible for that planning and that execution on the ground. If you've assumed responsibility for the other elements, non-military, non-security, political, economic, social and everything else, then you bear responsibility, says Zinni. Certainly those in your ranks that foisted this strategy on us that is flawed. Certainly they ought to be gone and replaced.
Zinni is talking about a group of policymakers within the administration known as "the neo-conservatives" who saw the invasion of Iraq as a way to stabilize American interests in the region and strengthen the position of Israel. They include Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz; Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith; Former Defense Policy Board member Richard Perle; National Security Council member Eliot Abrams; and Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby. Zinni believes they are political ideologues who have hijacked American policy in Iraq. I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington. That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington has known and fully knows what their agenda was and what they were trying to do, says Zinni.
And one article, because I mentioned the neo-conservatives who describe themselves as neo-conservatives, I was called anti-Semitic. I mean, you know, unbelievable that that's the kind of personal attacks that are run when you criticize a strategy and those who propose it. I certainly didn't criticize who they were. I certainly don't know what their ethnic religious backgrounds are. And I'm not interested.
Adds Zinni: I know what strategy they promoted. And openly. And for a number of years. And what they have convinced the president and the secretary to do. And I don't believe there is any serious political leader, military leader, diplomat in Washington that doesn't know where it came from.
Zinni said he believed their strategy was to change the Middle East and bring it into the 21st century.
All sounds very good, all very noble. The trouble is the way they saw to go about this is unilateral aggressive intervention by the United States - the take down of Iraq as a priority, adds Zinni. And what we have become now in the United States, how we're viewed in this region is not an entity that's promising positive change. We are now being viewed as the modern crusaders, as the modern colonial power in this part of the world. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Should all of those involved, including Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, resign?
I believe that they should accept responsibility for that, says Zinni. If I were the commander of a military organization that delivered this kind of performance to the president, I certainly would tender my resignation. I certainly would expect to be gone.
You say we need to change course -- that the current course is taking us over Niagara Falls. What course do you think ought to be set, Kroft asked Zinni. Well, it's been evident from the beginning what the course is. We should have gotten this U.N. resolution from the beginning. What does it take to sit down with the members of the Security Council, the permanent members, and find out what it takes, says Zinni. What is it they want to get this resolution? Do they want a say in political reconstruction? Do they want a piece of the pie economically? If that's the cost, fine. What theyre gonna pay for up front is boots on the ground and involvement in sharing the burden.
Are there enough troops in Iraq now?
Do I think there are other missions that should be taken on which would cause the number of troops to go up, not just U.S., but international participants? Yes, says Zinni. We should be sealing off the borders, we should be protecting the road networks. We're not only asking for combat troops, were looking for trainers; were looking for engineers. We are looking for those who can provide services in there. But has the time come to develop an exit strategy?
There is a limit. I think its important to understand what the limit is. Now do I think we are there yet? No, it is salvageable if you can convince the Iraqis that what we're trying to do is in their benefit in the long run, says Zinni. Unless we change our communication and demonstrate a different image to the people on the street, then we're gonna get to the point where we are going to be looking for quick exits. I don't believe we're there now. And I wouldn't want to see us fail here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zinni, who now teaches international relations at the College of William and Mary, says he feels a responsibility to speak out, just as former Marine Corps Commandant David Shoup voiced early concerns about the Vietnam war nearly 40 years ago. It is part of your duty. Look, there is one statement that bothers me more than anything else. And that's the idea that when the troops are in combat, everybody has to shut up. Imagine if we put troops in combat with a faulty rifle, and that rifle was malfunctioning, and troops were dying as a result, says Zinni. I can't think anyone would allow that to happen, that would not speak up. Well, what's the difference between a faulty plan and strategy that's getting just as many troops killed? Its leading down a path where we're not succeeding and accomplishing the missions we've set out to do.
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