Posted on 05/19/2004 7:45:48 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
CANNES, France -- Two questions involving the duration of events: (1) So how long, exactly, was the standing ovation for Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11"? And (2) Did President Bush actually remain in a Florida classroom, reading from My Pet Goat, for seven minutes after he was informed of the second attack on the World Trade Center?
Moore's anti-Bush documentary was received rapturously at its black-tie screening here Monday, and a friend told me the ovation lasted 25 minutes. In my report I suggested that Cannes ovations, like the estimates of parade crowds in Chicago, have a tendency to be exaggerated. Since I attended an 8 a.m. press screening, I was not inside the Palais des Festivals to clock it myself.
Now I have another source. The ovation lasted 20 minutes, according to Variety, which may be correct, because its reporters all carry stopwatches to check the running times of movies.
In any event it was "the longest ovation in the history of the festival," according to Thierry Fremaux, the festival's director. At a party Monday evening, I asked Moore. "It depends on when you start counting," he said. "Do you start with the beginning of the closing credits or when the lights go up? When they just wouldn't stop clapping, I walked out and they kept applauding in the lobby."
And as for Bush's delay in reacting to the attack on the World Trade Center? Conventional wisdom has it that the president was reading to schoolchildren when he got the news and quickly left the room.
The Moore version: He was informed of the first attack, went into the room anyway, was informed of the second attack, and remained with the students until a staff member suggested that he leave.
"The teacher in that Sarasota classroom happened to tape the whole event," Moore told me. "We'd seen other footage from the networks, but it was all edited. She just left the camera running. She said nobody had ever asked her for the film. Bush didn't instinctively jump up and go into action, but just stayed on autopilot until someone told him what to do."
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No, because a SECOND passenger jet had hit WTC South Tower. How quickly we forget. Everyone here forgets that Bush was told of the SECOND attack, yet chose to not protect our nation's capital during the initial moments of this war.>>>
This is a patently ridiculous assumption. Fighter Jets were scrambled after the 2nd impact at the WTC. Considering the location of the Pentagon to the airport there, there was absolutely no chance in hell that the pentagon flight could have been intercepted, and by most knowledge due to the fact the take off path of the flight goes near the pentagon anyways. The last plane was going to be intercepted but it was tooken out by brave people on board the plane.
With a minimum of Googling, I was able to prove both you and Moore wrong.
We know what Moore's agenda is, but one would have to wonder what your motives are, faced with the facts, but still continuing a proven falsehood.
Isn't that exactly what Peter Jennings implied?
Well........If only Pat Buchanan was the Commander In Chief at this moment of time.
He would have immediately given a speech on the Jewish monopoly in entertainment and the finacial industry.
It's hard to type correctly when your head is exploding with rage.
Calm down...it will help.
And you know who corrected Jennings on air? None other than ABC's own Ann Compton; she was with Bush and she KNEW what they were doing.
Nice response. What are you, like 16.
Sheesh could you please can your "cloaking device" knee jerk Liberaltarian phrase that you all use when you try to push the leftist socialist line on FR.
BTW, the watch is broken in the first place, it doesn't work.
NOBODY knew it was an attack!
Noone even knew if it was a civilian or a commercial plane. There was no 'official' 'attack' until more information came in.
Do you really want the president interrupted every time a plane crashed anywhere in the US?
That plane took off from Dulles and the controllers lost verbal contact with it, but it kept on its flight path, so at first there was no suspicion about it.
Here's an interesting view of it:
http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11/questions/af-jets-standdown/af-scrambled-from-andrews-airforce-base.txt
Uh dude, maybe you should take your own advice that you were, IMO, with a hubristic omnipotent way giving in your reply #105 of this thread.
My motives and agenda are finding and disseminating the truth about the Bush adminstration
First reports were that it was a smaller commuter plane.
Apparently so, according to Cooter. Now that I think about it, I remember that too. Just another in the nearly infinite list of media bias.
You're lost in a Hollywood fantasy if you think any air response system could have shot down jet airliners already approaching their targets on a few minutes notice. The real world isn't Hollwood, bozo.
Odd that you would choose Michael Moore as your partner in crime.
He's a liar. That says a lot about what you're willing to do to "expose" the Bush administration.
You're exactly right. The president is the guy who scambles fighters at the first hint of trouble. The whole military establishment, down to the privates first class in their fireteams, move only at his direction.
You, Sir, are an idjit.
Hehe.....I like that. A lot. I'm gonna steal it for a tagline. At least for a few days.
I used to be a navy corpsman. I would never stitch anyone up without a Presidential directive.
Nice try, Howlin, but you're not even close.
I just happen to think he's right on this issue
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