Posted on 05/18/2004 7:54:28 AM PDT by Samwise
Or get bombs strapped to their necks and forced to rob banks, yeah. Delivering pizza's a pretty decent summer job, but you have to watch where you're working. I did it a couple summers ago, and in this area, I'd do it again in a heartbeat. But you couldn't pay me enough to work in a city.
Will wonders ever cease? :^)
"Try it sometime."
Many times :-)
can you get 15 off in less then 3-4 seconds ?
Pretty fast life flash
This is an easy one because any crime story from Indianapolis that involves a white has to have a list of the hate crimes that have occured over recent months. Since this report says nothing about hate crimes or evil armed white men, my bet is that both guys are black. If the armed pizza man had been white, the story would have mentioned his rap sheet or the absence of it.
"Why'd you shoot him 15 times?"
"Ran out of ammo."
PLEEEZE, God, let me be on that jury.
Deliveryman: 'It was my gun or his'
By Terry Horne
terry.horne@indystar.com
May 18, 2004
Marion County prosecutors will decide if any charges will be filed against a pizza deliveryman who killed an armed man during an apparent robbery attempt Monday night on the city's Far Eastside.
"I'm just satisfied it was him and not me," said Ronald B. Honeycutt, 38, of Carmel this morning.
Honeycutt said he pulled his gun and fired off all 15 rounds when, as he was about to get into his van, he turned and saw a man coming toward him.
"He said, "Hey, my guy," and as he said "Hey, my guy," he's lifting his arm up with his gun in his hand."
Honeycutt said he pulled his own 9 mm pistol and fired off all 15 rounds at the other man at close range.
The other man, Jerome Brown, 20, 9500 block of East 39th Place, was taken to Methodist Hospital where he died a short time later.
Marion County Sheriff Capt. Phil Burton said there were no witnesses to the shooting, which occurred about 11 p.m. in the 3600 block of Long Wharf Drive.
Burton said he did not know how many times Brown was shot but it was multiple times.
Burton said the investigators would present their findings to the Marion County Prosecutor's office.
Honeycutt said detectives had told him that "something could come out of it" because of the number of times he had shot Brown.
Honeycutt said he emptied his gun in less than 10 seconds and kept firing because he couldn't tell whether the bullets were striking Brown, who was three to five feet away. "He never ran. He never cried. He never moved. It was like I was missing him altogether."
Honeycutt said that after Brown fell, with his gun arm outstretched, Brown said, "I just wanted a pizza."
But Honeycutt said he didn't believe him, "because that's not what he wanted," he said.
The deliveryman said he later learned that Brown's gun never fired because there wasn't a round in the chamber. However, he did hear Brown's gun click two times, he said.
Honeycutt, who said he was laid off about a year ago from a transportation job with The Indianapolis Star, said he has been delivering pizza for 20 years. "I've always had a gun," he said. "I like delivering pizzas. It's a fair job, but I don't plan on dying for it. I know so many people that really got mangled up."
Honeycutt, who was delivering for the Pizza Hut store at 8932 E. 38th Street, said he had already made a $50 delivery Monday night where bystanders had badgered him. "I expected to get robbed," he said.
Then he drove to the Long Wharf Drive apartment. He said he noticed two men coming towards him as he was approaching the building but he doesn't know if either of them were Brown or associated with him.
After making his delivery, he turned around -- "to check my back one more time" -- and saw a man walking briskly toward him. He had reached his van and opened the door when he saw Brown raise his arm, he said. "Once he leveled that gun at me, it was my gun or his."
Honeycutt said he picked up Brown's gun after the shooting, because he feared Brown had an accomplice, and drove back to the store, just a couple of minutes away, where detectives later met him.
Honeycutt said he was fired from his job because he had violated the store policy against carrying a gun, which he was licensed to carry.
"It's my life. I choose which policy to follow."
A Pizza Hut spokeswoman, Patty Sullivan, confirmed that the ban on carrying weapons is a company policy.
Honeycutt said he had never had to fire his gun in self-defense before, although he had pointed at some would-be robbers once before.
"I'm a pretty down to earth kind of person. With everything that's transpired since 911, killing these days almost seems a necessity if it means your life or theirs."
"The victim was taken to a local hospital where he later died, RTV6 reproted."
Victim, what victim? Did the Pizza Delivery man get hurt by shooting the perp?
I've boycotted Dominos ever since.
I used to call the manager at the local Dominos to let them know
I'd just ordered a pizza from somewhere else due to their policy.
I'll add Pizza Hut to the list.
I did a tour of duty as a gas station clerk. I never got held up but a guy I worked with did. He wasn't the same after it happened. Like you I am not sure if they could pay me enough to work that job again. I respect convenance store clerks, restraunt employees and delivery people and feel they should be allowed to protect themselves. Anyone who attempts to commit a crime on people working such jobs deserves to be dead no matter if they kill someone or not.
Yeah he was just going to hold up the delivery guy for one pizza with pepperoni and extra cheese. The cops and the attorneys going after this guy should deliver pizzas for a few weeks unarmed and see if they still want to press charges.
Sorry it wont happen again.
Rules for a Gunfight #9:
"Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty."
http://www.jaspersports.com/fencing/gunfight%20rules.htm
Good idea.
One way to evaluate these situations is to substitute a cop in place of the citizen all other circumstances being the same and analyze the result. To wit: an off duty cop opens the door to his van, turns to see a man approaching him, pointing a pistol and saying "my man, my man". The instant the cop saw the gun regardless of any other circumstances, he would be legally authorized (and would indeed) draw his weapon and fire repeatedly with intent to kill, untill his target no longer (in his opinion) posed a threat. Then he would disarm the target and secure the gun. The investigating officers would praise him for his quick thinking and courage and would note in their report that he had no other choice and he was in fear of his life, and reccomend him for a medal.
Now ask yourself, Is a cop's life worth more than a pizza deliveryman's? Or, are their lives of equal value? If so the deliveryman should walk without having incurred any legal costs so much as a police report copy.
"It's my life. I choose which policy to follow."
Sounds like a hard-working, no BS, Red Zone sorta guy. Hope no charges are filed.
I support Pizza Hut. Honeycutt is incapabe of continuing as a delivery driver, being deceased.
If you read the end of the article:
"The victim was taken to a local hospital where he later died, RTV6 reproted."
Something erie about this story.
Anyone here willing to walk those streets at night without a gun?
Nope, Dumb-in-nose has the same policy......no guns for drivers.
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