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Blix: Sarin gas used in Iraq attack not likely sign of WMDs... (Drudge)
Drudge Report | 5/17/04 | Drudge

Posted on 05/17/2004 11:12:42 AM PDT by The South Texan

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blix; iraq; sarin; wmd
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To: The South Texan

1) We should wait and see what Mr. Blix's incredible logic is to this imponderable issue of 'WMD is not WMD.'
2) If this were found in the U.S. then would the U.S. press describe it as something other than WMD? I don't think so.
3) I've always held that the huge amounts of previous WMD's have yet to be found.
4) That the enemy is now just starting to use them shows how desperate they are.
5) I think we can conclude that Bush and Rumsfeld have been right all along on this issue of WMD, which to me was a side issue.
6) We may never find all of it, until some little kid crawls into one of Saddam's underground storage facilities and comes out wheezing and covered with pimples.
7) Saddam probably killed the people that knew where this stuff was stored. Some of it was probably shipped to Syria -- he couldn't send it to Iran like his jets.
8) It's going to be interesting to see how the local populace starts reacting to this stuff being used in their backyards.
9) I wonder how the Baathists would feel if they found out the gas bomb was placed by Shites or Kurds?
10) Why is no one talking about partitioning so we can exit quickly?... So many things to do, so many places to go.

Hoppy


101 posted on 05/17/2004 12:58:40 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Dianna
Who smuggled it in?

Two people were treated for "minor exposure" after the sarin incident but no serious injuries were reported.

Well, it could have been on the back of a Cicada? That report, above in bold is what you guys are all excited about?
102 posted on 05/17/2004 12:58:50 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Two people were treated for "minor exposure" after the sarin incident but no serious injuries were reported

:::sigh::: The two chemicals are separate inside the "shell". When the device is properly ignited the two chemicals mix together, creating sarin gas. The men were exposed as we were trying to "disarm" the device, thus it was not detonated as it was designed to be.

Had the device been fired, we'd have a LOT of dead people hanging around Iraq today.

103 posted on 05/17/2004 12:58:51 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Scythian
Well, it could have been on the back of a Cicada? That report, above in bold is what you guys are all excited about?

You are too ignorant to bother with.

104 posted on 05/17/2004 1:01:02 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

Okay, granted, but still, is one shell news, do you think even democrats will be amazed that they found it? It's more amazing that they haven't. Maybe then the terrorists have planted it to inoculate the american public to find them, scattered about, so if more are found is a big yawn, and then Kerry gets elected. Do I have to use the sarcasm tag now? Who can tell, still I contend there's no huge story here, one shell, say they find 5 more?


105 posted on 05/17/2004 1:03:15 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: cake_crumb
Would it be too gross to suggest it spews from his mouth every time he talks, too?

Yes.
106 posted on 05/17/2004 1:03:22 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: The South Texan

Wasn't Blix a beneficiary of the Oil for Food slush fund? I'm series.


107 posted on 05/17/2004 1:06:41 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: The South Texan
Blix must be taking speaking lessons from Baghdad Bob.

"There are no WMDs here."

108 posted on 05/17/2004 1:07:06 PM PDT by al_c
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To: Scythian

"...Two people were treated for "minor exposure" after the sarin incident but no serious injuries were reported..."

Probably because the Sarin was in it's liquid form. Had the weapon detonated it could have vaporized into the envronment which is how Sarin does it's deadliest work. My point is that the Democrats/media have been repeating the same lie now for nearly six months "NO WMDs!, NO WMDs!, NO WMDs!" So now when WMDs are found, your saying "THIS IS NO BIG DEAL!, NO NEWS HERE!, PAY NO ATTENTION TO THOSE CHEMICAL-FILLED CANISTERS!" You're back-pedaling. I smell hypocrisy.


109 posted on 05/17/2004 1:07:16 PM PDT by BombHollywood
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To: Dianna
"The two chemicals are separate inside the "shell". "

Are you sure? Cause if you are then this is an important fact that needs to get out. I am listening to talk radio and the main not WMD point seems to be that since only two people were minorly injured the weapon in question can not have been a WMD.

110 posted on 05/17/2004 1:08:06 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Dianna

What is Drudges big headline, sirens on the Sarin story? Hardly, a minor footnote, it's standing ovation time for goofball, that's the headline


111 posted on 05/17/2004 1:08:20 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Indie
No it's kind of like CBS airing the gruesome photos of Diana dying and then saying the Nick Berg photo is too much to show.

or

Only makes sense to Mr. McGoo and J F'n Kerry ...
I actually knew the WMDs were there, right before I knew they weren't there.
112 posted on 05/17/2004 1:11:48 PM PDT by snooker (John F'n Kerry, the enemy's choice in Vietnam, the enemy's choice in Iraq.)
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To: Scythian
Okay, granted, but still, is one shell news, do you think even democrats will be amazed that they found it?

No, the dems will sound just like you.

Yes, one shell is news. Is it possible that Saddam just forgot about that one shell while he destroyed all the rest? Like maybe it fell off the transport truck? Hmmm, possible.

It is equally possible that this one shell is part of a whole bunch of shells that we just haven't found yet.

In any case, I don't ignore just one cockroach in my house and assume the dog brought it in. Seems like a foolish way to go about life IMO.

113 posted on 05/17/2004 1:11:54 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: jpsb
Are you sure? Cause if you are then this is an important fact that needs to get out. I am listening to talk radio and the main not WMD point seems to be that since only two people were minorly injured the weapon in question can not have been a WMD.

I only know what I have read on this thread.

114 posted on 05/17/2004 1:13:29 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

115 posted on 05/17/2004 1:14:59 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: jpsb
Gen Kimit referred to the shell as 'binary', meaning the chemicals are stored in the shell separate and mixed in flight. This also means the two chemical components are not lethal when stored and handled.

Saddam used binary shells on the Iranians and Kurds. Everyone has known this for a long time. Even, well maybe even, Blix.
116 posted on 05/17/2004 1:15:05 PM PDT by snooker (John F'n Kerry, the enemy's choice in Vietnam, the enemy's choice in Iraq.)
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To: Dianna

Well maybe a weapons expert will come along and explain how this weapon works and why the damnage done was so slight. I would guess that the weapon was old and lost it's effective. Your two halves is also plausable, but I don't know how sarin is made.


117 posted on 05/17/2004 1:17:47 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: snooker
Binary might mean a couple of things, sarin in one chamber and some dispersal agent in another. Does not have to mean the sarin is "made" in flight.
118 posted on 05/17/2004 1:20:25 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: jpsb
Are you sure? Cause if you are then this is an important fact that needs to get out. I am listening to talk radio and the main not WMD point seems to be that since only two people were minorly injured the weapon in question can not have been a WMD.

Yup. And I'm a former artillery officer who knows a bit about Iraqi chemical munitions, having been briefed on them pretty extensively in 90-91.

The deadly stuff was inside, needing only the rotation imparted from firing to mix the binary elements into Sarin. Because they simply detonated it, the components did not mix properly. But the ingredients were there to do the damage.

If you want a lay analogy to bounce off folks, call it a misfire. A nuke has to be detonated correctly to achieve fission/fusion. If you just stick some subcharge outside the nuke, you'll get an incomplete explosion, or maybe no explosion at all. But that doesn't make the nuke any less of a WMD. It just means that you were lucky enough on that occasion that the boneheads screwed up the detonation.

119 posted on 05/17/2004 1:23:23 PM PDT by XJarhead
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To: jpsb

Blix wouldn't mind sticking his nose in it to check it out.The guy is a Dork.


120 posted on 05/17/2004 1:24:25 PM PDT by magua
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