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Creationism vs. evolution debate to be topic of two-day Clarksb
Clarksburg ^ | May 17 2004 | Kim Mines

Posted on 05/17/2004 10:46:51 AM PDT by yonif

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1 posted on 05/17/2004 10:46:53 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
"There are two world views -- God is or God isn't -- creation or evolution,"

Sigh -- the Fallacy of the False Dichotomy rides again...

The majority of evolutionists are Christian, so obviously something is wrong with with his "either-or" notion, and with his trying to equate evolution with atheism.

2 posted on 05/17/2004 10:52:44 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Not to mention that Intelligent Design does not assume or require a deity.
3 posted on 05/17/2004 10:59:47 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: yonif
Robert C. Byrd High School

Is that who I think it is? If so, what kind of guy has a school named after him while he's STILL ALIVE?!?!

4 posted on 05/17/2004 11:06:35 AM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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To: yonif
Ham will be speaking at the Answers in Genesis conference May 21-22 at Robert C. Byrd High School.

I wonder who paid for that school?
5 posted on 05/17/2004 11:07:09 AM PDT by microgood
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I wonder who paid for that school?

My first guess is it wasn't Robert C. Byrd.

6 posted on 05/17/2004 11:10:48 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: yonif

I submit that the chemical artillery shells found in Iraq naturally evolved from ordinary artillery shells.


7 posted on 05/17/2004 11:12:39 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: azhenfud
My first guess is it wasn't Robert C. Byrd.

Good first guess.
8 posted on 05/17/2004 11:19:07 AM PDT by microgood
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To: Blood of Tyrants

you are correct.


9 posted on 05/17/2004 11:31:35 AM PDT by job ("God is not dead nor doth He sleep")
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To: yonif

It took God 6 days to create everthing. How long was each day?


10 posted on 05/17/2004 11:35:38 AM PDT by inflation
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To: yonif
Been working on a new description of ID.

If you let go of a ball it will fall to the floor. Did God cause the ball to drop to the floor? Or did God create gravity, and gravity pulled the ball to the floor?

You can say that this is an example of "intelligent action". I.E. the ball went to the floor rather than across the room because the intelligence sent it in one particular direction (down) rather than across the room.

I'd call this an "intelligent process".

So if a creature with slightly superior capabilities than another survives because of those capabilities, is that Darwin's "Natural Selection"? Or is it "intelligent design"?

Just as the ball dropped because of gravity as created by God, "Natural Selection" occurs by the life processes as created by God.

Bottom line: there is no conflict between Genesis and Evolution. Just as God created Gravity, he created Evolution. The chapters of Genesis that describe creation are only a few hundred words. Not nearly enough to describe any details, leaving plenty of room for Evolution.

When Christians fight Evolution, they marginalize themselves, and aid the anti-Christian bigots by giving them something to criticize.

11 posted on 05/17/2004 11:37:17 AM PDT by narby (Iraq prison abuse looks like Frat house hazing to me.)
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To: Ichneumon

Sigh the fallacy of the fallacy of the false dictomony rides again and again....
God either is or he isn't....
If he is then evolution is lie....
The bible tells me so....
:)


12 posted on 05/17/2004 11:39:47 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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13 posted on 05/17/2004 11:40:11 AM PDT by Sender (<a href="http://www.democrats.org/">Miserable Failure</a>)
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To: jtminton
Is that who I think it is? If so, what kind of guy has a school named after him while he's STILL ALIVE?!?!

Classic. He is dead, but typical of Dimocrats that have the dead on the voting rolls, in this case they just propped up a dead politician and elected him.

14 posted on 05/17/2004 11:42:56 AM PDT by highlander_UW (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. - Robert Frost)
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Byrd has a bunch of stuff named after him in WV.

Robert C. Byrd High School
Robert C. Byrd Highway
Robert C. Byrd Hardwood Technology Center
Robert C. Byrd National Technology Transfer Center
Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center (WVU)

etc...

There's also a giant bronze statue of him in the rotunda of our State Capital.

Makes me proud to be a West Virginian.

/sarcasm


15 posted on 05/17/2004 11:44:44 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Why do I carry a .45? Because they don't make a .46!)
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To: yonif
Here is the web site of Ken Ham's Answers in Genesis.
17 posted on 05/17/2004 11:57:53 AM PDT by protest1
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The first Book of Semiconductors, chapter 6, verse 12, states:

"And let computers multiply throughout the land. Be they used for running car engines or for the running of video games. Let them become numerous and be sold cheaply."

The rest deals with the availability of pornography so I won't address it here.

18 posted on 05/17/2004 12:03:01 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Know your rights
Not to mention that Intelligent Design does not assume or require a deity.

Can you point me to an ID source that does not mention a deity?

19 posted on 05/17/2004 12:03:06 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: narby

Well said, and thanks for saying it.


20 posted on 05/17/2004 12:07:05 PM PDT by FactQuest
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