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Faith leaders citywide ask people to turn in their guns (Chicago)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 16, 2004 | MAUDLYNE IHEJIRIKA

Posted on 05/16/2004 5:15:36 PM PDT by Gun142

Faith leaders citywide ask people to turn in their guns

May 16, 2004

BY MAUDLYNE IHEJIRIKA Staff Reporter

The Rev. Walter Johnson, pastor of Wayman A.M.E. Church in Cabrini-Green, had five guns stashed Saturday and was looking to get ahold of a few more.

This wasn't a man of the cloth on the lam. This was the Citywide Gun Turn-In.

The church in the middle of the infamous Near North Side public housing complex was among 11 houses of worship citywide where folks were encouraged to drop off guns -- no questions asked.

"The blessing is that these individuals felt the need to want to turn in their guns, with no incentives," Johnson said. "We said show your love, turn in your guns. We just simply put out there, 'It's the right thing to do.' "

Saturday's Turn-In was the second held this year by Clergy for Safer Streets. Co-chaired by Johnson and the Rev. Michael Pfleger of St. Sabina Catholic Church, the group has brought the faith community together on the gun issue.

"We've only gotten one gun so far, but we've gotten 60 over the last six months," Pfleger said at his South Side church. "We need to continue fighting for stricter gun laws and hold gun manufacturers responsible. At the same time, the faith community has to continually challenge our communities to get rid of the ones we already have out here."

By late afternoon, 13 guns had been turned in to diverse houses of worship ranging from mosques to synagogues. The last noon-to-6p.m. Turn-In on Feb. 14 reaped 15 guns.

"The key is to encourage people not to be afraid," said Yvonne Orr-Richardson, coordinator of the Chicago Police Department's community policing unit. "We're not asking questions. We don't need to know where it came from, who you got it from. We just want the metal piece.

"We did get some guns that have been turned in that have been loaded. Who knows what those bullets could have been used for?"

Johnson said three of the guns he collected were turned in loaded -- two from a middle-aged couple and one from a middle-aged woman. All said they just didn't want them in their houses anymore. The guns were turned over to police.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Illinois
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To: Eaker

What a wonderful idea, lets put an ad in the paper telling people that if they feel a need to dispose of a gun for moral reason they can turn them into us with no strings attatched, I even think thats legal. I wonder how many we could get?


21 posted on 05/16/2004 7:23:14 PM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Jeff Gordon
I agree. The reason liberals are so afraid of guns is because they know that they, themselves, don't have the mental stability to be responsible with guns. I applaud their self awareness about this. Given that, it is ashame that they can't perceive that everyone is not irresponsible like they are.

You are correct, that is why they fear guns.

My late cousin, a Liberal Democrat, had that problem, he believed that no one should be allowed to own a handgun, because he knew he couldn't trust himself to control his anger, he believed everyone was like him in that way.

22 posted on 05/16/2004 7:27:30 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: baltodog
I need some more ram and a 1-Gig secure digital card for my camera. Also need a ribbon mike, some hearing aids, a screen door and an internal lasar for my G-36.

Maybe the time has come for FR to have an annual virtual swap meet, the more I think about it. Donations for bandwidth, of course.

23 posted on 05/16/2004 7:30:07 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: eastforker; humblegunner

We could probably get a few from humble; he ain't none to bright!!!


24 posted on 05/16/2004 7:34:21 PM PDT by Eaker (That the bright star of Texas shall never be dim while her soil boasts a son to raise rifle or limb.)
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To: tet68
And when one of these guns is found to be a murder weapon...........what then?

Great idea! Beats tossing it in the river.

25 posted on 05/16/2004 7:35:42 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Gun142

Hey, it worked so well in Fallujah.


26 posted on 05/16/2004 7:36:59 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Gun142
The church and [political] organization most have become is exactly why I won't step foot into a 'House of God' to practice my religion.

Gun - it's like everything else. Some are crap and some aren't. Find the right church and you'll also find a lot of blessings.
27 posted on 05/16/2004 7:41:30 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Gun142

But I thought Chicago was already gun free?


28 posted on 05/16/2004 7:41:59 PM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the War Babies' Live Thread Free Republic reporting service)
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To: Gun142

In the Church I attend, the message is straight from the Bible, the collection plate is not passed, it is in the back for anyone who wishes to donate. Gun ownership is encouraged from the pulpit, open carry is allowed, and those who carry concealed are thanked in private.


29 posted on 05/16/2004 7:42:49 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Eaker
Noooooo...... don't blow em up Bro !..................:o)

Stay Safe !

30 posted on 05/16/2004 7:48:13 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Eaker; *bang_list
hehe !


31 posted on 05/17/2004 1:25:42 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Gun142
"We've only gotten one gun so far, but we've gotten 60 over the last six months," Pfleger said at his South Side church. "We need to continue fighting for stricter gun laws and hold gun manufacturers responsible. At the same time, the faith community has to continually challenge our communities to get rid of the ones we already have out here."

Churchs have tax exempt status only because they are SUPPOSED TO BE nonpolitical. It would do Illinois and US coffers good to remove this "so-called church" its economic benefits, which by definition others must burden.
32 posted on 05/17/2004 7:11:46 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: School of Rational Thought; *bang_list; Eaker; Travis McGee

Here's a Rational thought......:o)

Physicians vs. Gun Owners

a. The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

b. Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.

c. Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

(Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health & Human Services)


Now think about this:

Guns:

a. The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.

b. The number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) is1,500.

c. The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188. Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do.

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!! (Out of concern for the public at large, I have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention.)

Stay Safe..........don't get sick !


33 posted on 05/17/2004 11:52:13 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Gun142
Anybody want to bet the the thugs wern't taking note of who was disarmeing themselves?
34 posted on 05/17/2004 12:01:45 PM PDT by oyez (Fortune favors the bold.)
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To: Gun142

There are no guns in Chicago. They're illegal.


35 posted on 05/17/2004 12:36:39 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Squantos; All
How Many Deaths Are Due to Medical Error? Getting the Number Right.

That's the second title on the list you'll see first. Click on that the authors, and you'll get the abstract from where you can get the whole article.

Check PubMed Here - your tax dollars at work

That figure of 120,000 is probably a pretty bad over-estimation, including people who were very sick in the first place, allergic drug reactions, errors of other healthcare personnel besides docs, etc. I know docs haven't helped matters when they actually commit malpractice or when their official organizations embrace BS liberal and socialist political positions, but they're not all that bad.

36 posted on 05/17/2004 7:12:06 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Gun142

Father Flaky is certifiable think of a Col. Kurtz type with a collar and a mission to save the black man all by himself. He is literally up the psycho river without a paddle, and yet the liberal media treat him like a saint.


37 posted on 05/17/2004 7:18:43 PM PDT by junta
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To: Squantos

Does the link work at your end?


38 posted on 05/17/2004 7:21:32 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Gun142
I would have though that there would have been more than 15 morons in the city. But I applaud the move. Anybody that would turn in their guns are the very ones who shouldn't have them. Unfortunately, many of them probably already have children.

39 posted on 05/17/2004 7:22:42 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: fourdeuce82d; Born Conservative

Could you tell me if the link in comment# 36 works on your end.


40 posted on 05/18/2004 9:52:40 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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