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Self-flagellation . . . in blame shuffle (Ollie North Alert)
Washington Times ^ | 5/16/04 | Ollie North

Posted on 05/16/2004 4:23:02 AM PDT by Elkiejg

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:15:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Americans are so good at self-flagellation, even a heinous act by others may be insufficient to remind us we're not so bad after all. For three weeks, the media have bludgeoned the Bush administration, the defense secretary and the U.S. military for mistreatment of detainees in Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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Unfortunately, there's only one Ollie North. I've said it before......the Democrats and U.S. media are enemies of America and should be treated accordingly.
1 posted on 05/16/2004 4:23:03 AM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg; All
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2 posted on 05/16/2004 4:29:56 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: Elkiejg
This whole "sex" abuse scandal does expose the perverted minds of the left "religious" extremists in this nation.

Interesting that during the Clintons/Hollywood style "sex" abuse scandal their "media" whores had no problem with the perverts setting up a porn shop in the White House.

How curious it is that the Islamic "religious" terrorists took the Clintons "sex" abuse scandals as a sign of America's weakness, and inability and lack of resolve to defend herself.

What a perverted bunch these of the religion of "we are gods" have become, using one "right" of that Constitution, "free press", as they seek to destroy that Constitution.

This war against terrorists has two fronts, "destroyers" of human life, and "destroyers" of our Constitution.
3 posted on 05/16/2004 4:39:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Elkiejg

What really angers me is the apparent acceptance of the population with the media feeding us their propaganda how Bush and Rumsfeld are the root of all evil, Nick Berg is all Bush and Rumsfeld's fault and that wasn't so bad-what's bad is how those prisoners in Abu Gharib were 'tortured'. What really is the case is why is the United States even following the Geneva Convention to begin with since everyone whom we go to war with NEVER follows it to begin with. I say if they do not release those remaining American hostages that we threaten to kill those we've got in our custody. We will treat them how they treat ours. Zacqawi needs to be slowly beheaded for that matter.


4 posted on 05/16/2004 4:43:15 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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To: Elkiejg
the Democrats and U.S. media are enemies of America and should be treated accordingly.

So very true and cannot be repeated often enough.

It should be our mantra.

5 posted on 05/16/2004 4:49:35 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Elkiejg

bttt


6 posted on 05/16/2004 4:55:20 AM PDT by aloysius89 (I don't march. I am the different drummer.)
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To: RottiBiz

It is mine.

The democrat party is the biggest threat to our Nation today and for the foressable future.

We are one democrat administration away from becoming a socialist State.


7 posted on 05/16/2004 5:01:37 AM PDT by sport
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To: sauropod; Joe Brower; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; FRMAG; Squantos; Valin; Matthew James; AAABEST; ...

The leaders of democratic party and the anchors in media have become public enemies. They have an influence that is going to bring this nation to it's knees. Yesterday I visited for a short time with my father-in-law, he is 89 and a retired LTC (1961). He is normally mr conservative, but yesterday he was sounding like Dan Rather concerning the POW cases. He was almost calling for the resignation of Bush over the affair. I explained to him those involved were only a handful in probably 140,000 that are in Iraq, meaning a 1:10,000 or so ratio. He nodded his understanding, but the seed of doubt is there. He does like Ollie and if I can find him on Fox this afternoon maybe that will help.


8 posted on 05/16/2004 5:05:33 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Elkiejg

To add to the "is the media REALLY biased" debate... take a look at MSNBCs news website... A banner reading "Report: Rumsfeld OK’d Iraq interrogation plan" is there taking you to the story, which leads you to believe it's true, until way down the article, you find out it's MSNBC reporting on another report by the New Yorker magazine, and then of course the comments by Rumsfeld are way down saying how ridiculous that story in the New Yorker was. Unreal.


9 posted on 05/16/2004 5:11:08 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: Elkiejg

Your exactly right! Thanks for posting this. I like Ollie too. He's one of the few that puts out truth. He goes straight to the source too. The way he goes right in where it's all happening with our guys is something this RATmedia doesn't have the guts to do. God Bless all our people in uniform and God Bless Ollie too. Thanks again for the post.


10 posted on 05/16/2004 5:12:28 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270)
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To: sport

The scariest part of what you just said is your exactly right. I don't want to live in Hiterly's and Hanoi John's socialist state. This is ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.


11 posted on 05/16/2004 5:20:35 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270)
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To: Just mythoughts

Your right with your thoughts. You are on course and on time.


12 posted on 05/16/2004 5:22:11 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270)
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To: RottiBiz

The democrats and the media are destroying America's will to fight for their freedom. The fight is about the minds of the people and we must find a way to win.


13 posted on 05/16/2004 5:24:33 AM PDT by Big Horn (A waist is a terrible thing to mind.)
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To: Elkiejg

The biggest sex scandal on the entire planet is the way Islam treats women... and the way "women's rights activists" in the west completely ignore the plight of their sisters.

The "prison sex scandal" is a tiny pebble.

The plight of women in Islam is an entire mountain range.

In the west, leftists and liberals are faithfully keeping their eye on the pebble.


14 posted on 05/16/2004 5:26:00 AM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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To: bushfamfan

I'm with you in this. I'm voting for President Bush because of many reasons and one is that I can't stand this MOTHER MAY I PLEASE attitude of the liberal RATS!


15 posted on 05/16/2004 5:27:13 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270)
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To: Elkiejg

"...Democrats and U.S. media are enemies of America and should be treated accordingly."

Amen.

Well, 'agreed' is probably a better word but it is Sunday.


16 posted on 05/16/2004 5:32:30 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Round up the known Left - Hand them over to the Islamic militants for execution - watch the video.)
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Excellent piece by Ollie, and it is amazing that Berg's butchery got the type of attention it got, but I think that's mostly because of his father.

One of the reasons I think there wasn't as big an outcry is because we've known all along what these insects are capable of. They remind us regularly, especially with the occurrences in Israel. Who shoots a woman and her four kids, shooting the kids first, except a bunch of insects? We know what they're capable of.

We didn't know that England and the boys were fond of goober-porn and/or buggery. It was mostly a question of being shocked by the photos of a man on a leash, etc., I mean I know a few people liked it, unfortunately most people didn't. It was like being forced to look at your neighbors in a really bad edition of Hustler. Few, if any, that is the American people, equate the two morally, IMO.

17 posted on 05/16/2004 5:46:24 AM PDT by AlbionGirl ("E meglio lavorare con qui non ti paga, e no ha parlare con qui non ti capisce!")
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To: WorkingClassFilth
If I were president.....

(1) I would issue a warning to the effect that another 9/11 type attack on this country would be viewed as an act of war committed by the Muslim wprld and would be answered with "termination with extreme predjudice".
(2) I would warn any city in Iraq that if an American was killed it would be removed from the face of the Earth. And I would follow through.
(3) I would warn Syria that if they were found to be aiding the terrorists in Iraq or anywhere else, Damascus would be flattened.
(4) I would warn Iran that any evidence found of their pursuing a nuclear weapon would be met with maximum force.
(5) I would deputize state militias in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas to guard the borders with orders to shoot on sight anyone found crossing illegally.
(6) I would initiate treason proceedings against selected members of the media.

And that's just for a start.

I would apologize to no one.

I don't want to hear about "political realities", I just want the President to take the reins of power and protect this country with whatever force is required.

18 posted on 05/16/2004 6:02:32 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: Just mythoughts
Interesting that during the Clintons/Hollywood style "sex" abuse scandal their "media" whores had no problem with the perverts setting up a porn shop in the White House.

Ahh, but cigars were used in the White House, not light sticks.

Guess cigars, being made from a natural substance are ok.

19 posted on 05/16/2004 6:04:28 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Elkiejg
Never underestimate our penchant for self-flagellation.

i think ollie's pulling his punch....it's not self-flagellation, it's as you said so well.....flagellation from the enemy (rats/media)

20 posted on 05/16/2004 6:06:44 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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