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U.S. Athletes Told Not to Carry Flag at Olympics
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | 16 May, 2004 | Simon Hart

Posted on 05/16/2004 4:14:05 AM PDT by tjwmason

Fear of a hostile reaction has led US officials to warn its participants in the Games against overtly patriotic displays
By Simon Hart in New York
(Filed: 16/05/2004)


American athletes have been warned not to wave the US flag during their medal celebrations at this summer's Olympic Games in Athens for fear of provoking crowd hostility and harming the country's already battered public image.

The spectacle of victorious athletes grabbing a national flag and parading it around the stadium is a familiar part of international sporting competition, but US Olympic officials have ordered their 550-strong team to exercise restraint and avoid any jingoistic behaviour.

The plan is part of a charm offensive aimed at repairing the country's international reputation following the deepening crisis in Iraq and damaging revelations of torture and mistreatment of detainees by US forces at the Abu Ghraib prison.

"American athletes find themselves in extraordinary circumstances in Athens in relation to the world as we know it right now," said Mike Moran, a veteran former spokesman for the US Olympic Committee who has been retained as a consultant to advise athletes about the correct way to behave.

"Regardless of whether there is anti-American sentiment in Athens or not, the world watches Americans a lot now in terms of how they behave and our culture. What I am trying to do with the athletes and coaches is to suggest to them that they consider how the normal things they do at an event, including the Olympics, might be viewed as confrontational or insulting or cause embarrassment."

Four years ago, at the Sydney Olympics, the victorious American 4 x 100m relay team were widely condemned for their arrogant strutting with the US flag following their gold medal presentation, and American officials, mindful of the country's precarious standing in world opinion, are desperate to avoid any repeat.

"Unfortunately, using the flag as a prop or a piece of apparel or indulging in boasting behaviour is becoming part of our society in sport because every night on TV we see our athletes - professional, college or otherwise - taunting their opponents and going face to face with each other," said Mr Moran. "We are trying, for 17 days, to break that culture.

"What I am telling the athletes is, 'Don't run over and grab a flag and take it round the track with you.' It's not business as usual for American athletes. If a Kenyan or a Russian grabs their national flag and runs round the track or holds it high over their heads, it might not be viewed as confrontational. Where we are in the world right now, an American athlete doing that might be viewed in another manner."

Mr Moran added that the behaviour of British athletes could face similar scrutiny in Athens, though the British Olympic Association insists that there are no plans to ban them from celebrating with the Union flag.

A spokesman for the association said: "It's up to every athlete how he or she wishes to celebrate their Olympic success and there are no plans to issue any instructions. We are confident that every athlete will celebrate in a responsible way."

The US Olympic Committee's anxiety at over-exuberant displays of jingoism is a far cry from the scenes at the 2002 Winter Olympics, hosted by Salt Lake City, where the American flag became the defining symbol of the Games.

A different environment awaits the American team in Athens, where officials are anxious to replace apple pie with humble pie.

Americans were booed at the World Athletics Championships in Paris last year - largely as a result of Jon Drummond's histrionic protest at his disqualification from a heat of the 100 metres. And at an Olympic football qualifying match in Mexico earlier this year the American team was subjected to sustained barracking by a section of the crowd, including chants of "Osama, Osama".

Despite the extra burden being placed on American athletes, officials still predict a US medal haul of more than 100, and have made it their target to finish top of the medals table. The irony is that finishing the Games as the most powerful nation is unlikely to endear them to the rest of the world.

"We're not the favourite kid in the world right now," admitted Bill Martin, the US Olympic Committee's acting president.

"We are sensitive not only to the security issue but to jingoism in its raw sense. That is why we are sending people around to educate the athletes as to the appropriate behaviour."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: jocon307

Probably not. The media will do their best to colloborate with the "victims" of American ______ (fill in the blank).
The "victims" are the Muslims. If only we did/didn't _____ (fill in the blank).
For an example, see how the media treats the Palistinian "victims" of Zionist "oppression".


21 posted on 05/16/2004 4:40:39 AM PDT by macrahanish #1
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To: tjwmason

They also should warn the athletes against winning any competitions. That might upset the fans of other countries' teams.


22 posted on 05/16/2004 4:45:10 AM PDT by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: tjwmason

This is so beyond outrageous I am sitting here speechless.


23 posted on 05/16/2004 4:46:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: tjwmason
OK, lets not wave our American Flags.. we should just take their own unworthy flags and shove it up their arses.. one mans opinion...
24 posted on 05/16/2004 4:48:09 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; sit-rep; Lion Den Dan; FRMAG; Squantos; Jeff Head; Poohbah; AAABEST; ...

Can anyone say "1972" without remembering the scenes on TV? The security of the Greeks is rotten at best with Athens a center for mideast terrorism, and the olumpics will be just one more venue for them. As far as world attitude to the flag - I say screw 'em, take our foreign aide packages away and see how their tune changes overnight. If it wasn't for the sugar teat of Uncle Sam these two bit countries would regress to the stone age.


26 posted on 05/16/2004 4:49:02 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: tjwmason

OLympic cpmmittee sends me requests for donations they can kiss my hind quarters


27 posted on 05/16/2004 4:49:21 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: OldFriend

This is unreal. And it's our own Olympics Committee that's saying this????


28 posted on 05/16/2004 4:49:56 AM PDT by livius
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To: proud American in Canada

Irrelevant - If an Iraqi team boos...fine, America= Unpopular occupying power.

If Iraqi Team doesn't boo...America=Occupying power which team is too scared of to boo for fear of repercussions to selves, relatives or state.

NO matter what the team does, those pro and anti the war will draw and defend their own beliefs.


29 posted on 05/16/2004 4:51:19 AM PDT by Androcles
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To: tjwmason
I think that whoever ""warned them not to wave the US flag " is more worried about what the crowd reaction will say about the world rather than about the US.
30 posted on 05/16/2004 4:51:30 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: jocon307
I think about suicide bombers in New Jersey shopping malls and NYC subway stations. But what I want to know is what will happen then? Will the gov't start to round up all Muslims? Will they shut down the Mosques? Will there be mass deportation of Muslims who are foreign nationals? If these things do not happen, will non-Muslim Americans take to the streets and demand them?

I have a feeling that Muslims in America will have to be placed in protective custody until they can be safely escorted out of the country.
31 posted on 05/16/2004 4:53:42 AM PDT by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: tjwmason
Olympic rift with gays is healed, mutual goals prompt move.

October 3, 2002— "After years of ill will between the U.S. Olympic movement and the Gay Games athletic competition, organizers of the gay event and boosters of bringing the Olympics to the Bay Area in 2012 said Wednesday that they had joined forces to help each other's causes."

...."Mike Moran, spokesman for the USOC, said the support of the federation and the Bay Area's gay community could only help the local effort when it goes before the 123-member Olympic committee in Colorado Springs, Colo., next month."

"We look to that support from diverse segments of the community," he said. "The differences are way in the past."

Moran

32 posted on 05/16/2004 4:54:49 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: tjwmason
E'ff 'Em!!!


33 posted on 05/16/2004 4:55:02 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Welcome home Thomas Hamill !!!)
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To: jocon307
I think about that stuff too

I live 40 miles from Dearborn, Michigan..............AK47's at shopping malls just before the election is my fear.

If something, somewhere occurs again, I don't think American citizens will be passive like the Israeli's are.

I hope we don't have to find out.

34 posted on 05/16/2004 4:55:10 AM PDT by Tripleplay
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To: tjwmason
Here's an idea: Don't allow any flags at the Olympics, from any country. Celebrate the individual victory, not national point-scoring.

Besides, the Olympics is full of sports that only make the Saturday afternoon TV shows in the first place, which nobody pays attention to the rest of the time.

Irrelevant made-for-TV sports? What a great idea for another way to spend money!

35 posted on 05/16/2004 4:55:39 AM PDT by Bernard
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To: tjwmason

What do we expect from a USOC that dresses our athletes in an overly Canadian patriotic Roots company? I am still angry as hell that Roots and not an American company is uniforming our athletes. You can see why the world wants John Kerry and Demonrats-BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN AND HAVE NO PRIDE AND WORK FOR THEIR WELL BEING AND FEELINGS RATHER THAN OURS.


36 posted on 05/16/2004 4:56:38 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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To: muawiyah
BOYCOTT THEM, DON'T TURN THEM ON, DON'T GO SEE THEM, IF OUR FLAG IS OFFENSIVE THEN SO IS OUR MONEY IF IT WERNE'T FOR USA TOURIST DOLLARS THE WHOLE EU WOULD BE IN DEPRESSION, NOT SIMPLY RECESSION.
37 posted on 05/16/2004 4:57:05 AM PDT by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: tjwmason

Greece can't police the games properly, sad to say. I expect violence, but I suppose anything Americans can do to minimize their very being would help matters. Uh, maybe we should just stay home this time around. That said, I hate the idea of the rest of a jealous world influencing our behavior in the least. And if violence does occur and people get hurt or killed, I don't want to hear someone from the state department saying that such behavior is unacceptable and that we intend to hunt down the killers and prosecute them. I want something like the Mossad to step in and do the job asap.


38 posted on 05/16/2004 4:58:16 AM PDT by hershey
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To: tjwmason

Obviously the US Olympic Committee has become a political lobbying organization. Can we pull their tax free status.


39 posted on 05/16/2004 4:59:01 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jocon307

Good question. I'd like to know the answer to that, too.


40 posted on 05/16/2004 5:00:11 AM PDT by hershey
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