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U.S. Athletes Told Not to Carry Flag at Olympics
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | 16 May, 2004 | Simon Hart

Posted on 05/16/2004 4:14:05 AM PDT by tjwmason

Fear of a hostile reaction has led US officials to warn its participants in the Games against overtly patriotic displays
By Simon Hart in New York
(Filed: 16/05/2004)


American athletes have been warned not to wave the US flag during their medal celebrations at this summer's Olympic Games in Athens for fear of provoking crowd hostility and harming the country's already battered public image.

The spectacle of victorious athletes grabbing a national flag and parading it around the stadium is a familiar part of international sporting competition, but US Olympic officials have ordered their 550-strong team to exercise restraint and avoid any jingoistic behaviour.

The plan is part of a charm offensive aimed at repairing the country's international reputation following the deepening crisis in Iraq and damaging revelations of torture and mistreatment of detainees by US forces at the Abu Ghraib prison.

"American athletes find themselves in extraordinary circumstances in Athens in relation to the world as we know it right now," said Mike Moran, a veteran former spokesman for the US Olympic Committee who has been retained as a consultant to advise athletes about the correct way to behave.

"Regardless of whether there is anti-American sentiment in Athens or not, the world watches Americans a lot now in terms of how they behave and our culture. What I am trying to do with the athletes and coaches is to suggest to them that they consider how the normal things they do at an event, including the Olympics, might be viewed as confrontational or insulting or cause embarrassment."

Four years ago, at the Sydney Olympics, the victorious American 4 x 100m relay team were widely condemned for their arrogant strutting with the US flag following their gold medal presentation, and American officials, mindful of the country's precarious standing in world opinion, are desperate to avoid any repeat.

"Unfortunately, using the flag as a prop or a piece of apparel or indulging in boasting behaviour is becoming part of our society in sport because every night on TV we see our athletes - professional, college or otherwise - taunting their opponents and going face to face with each other," said Mr Moran. "We are trying, for 17 days, to break that culture.

"What I am telling the athletes is, 'Don't run over and grab a flag and take it round the track with you.' It's not business as usual for American athletes. If a Kenyan or a Russian grabs their national flag and runs round the track or holds it high over their heads, it might not be viewed as confrontational. Where we are in the world right now, an American athlete doing that might be viewed in another manner."

Mr Moran added that the behaviour of British athletes could face similar scrutiny in Athens, though the British Olympic Association insists that there are no plans to ban them from celebrating with the Union flag.

A spokesman for the association said: "It's up to every athlete how he or she wishes to celebrate their Olympic success and there are no plans to issue any instructions. We are confident that every athlete will celebrate in a responsible way."

The US Olympic Committee's anxiety at over-exuberant displays of jingoism is a far cry from the scenes at the 2002 Winter Olympics, hosted by Salt Lake City, where the American flag became the defining symbol of the Games.

A different environment awaits the American team in Athens, where officials are anxious to replace apple pie with humble pie.

Americans were booed at the World Athletics Championships in Paris last year - largely as a result of Jon Drummond's histrionic protest at his disqualification from a heat of the 100 metres. And at an Olympic football qualifying match in Mexico earlier this year the American team was subjected to sustained barracking by a section of the crowd, including chants of "Osama, Osama".

Despite the extra burden being placed on American athletes, officials still predict a US medal haul of more than 100, and have made it their target to finish top of the medals table. The irony is that finishing the Games as the most powerful nation is unlikely to endear them to the rest of the world.

"We're not the favourite kid in the world right now," admitted Bill Martin, the US Olympic Committee's acting president.

"We are sensitive not only to the security issue but to jingoism in its raw sense. That is why we are sending people around to educate the athletes as to the appropriate behaviour."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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Welcome to the happy world of anarcho-leftism. Don't carry the U.S. flag to celebrate a U.S. victory, that would be jingoistic; but for a Russian to carry a Russian flag to celebrate a Russian victory would be fine?????

I am not overly keen on those 'Don't Tread on Me' flags personally, but perhaps they could be issued to athletes.

Thank goodness our Olympic Committee have not done this yet, we're usually the first on these loony leftist schemes.

1 posted on 05/16/2004 4:14:06 AM PDT by tjwmason
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Doesn't sound like an American problem, but something the funny little foreign people are suffering from.

Best bet ~ don't send any American athletes to this one.

Then the funny little foreign people can wave their own flags in front of empty seats and TV cameras that link up to a network of disinterest.

The warning should be made to the funny little foreign people that if they get out of hand at the awards ceremonies they will, of course, be penalized. I can think of a few ways to do that too!

2 posted on 05/16/2004 4:20:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Patriotic display = jingoism

Well that's just rich.


3 posted on 05/16/2004 4:20:02 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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"I am not overly keen on those 'Don't Tread on Me' flags personally, but perhaps they could be issued to athletes."

Wonderful idea. I have one left over from my days in the militia -- I'd be glad to loan it to them!

Carolyn

4 posted on 05/16/2004 4:22:04 AM PDT by CDHart
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WTF!!! Why should we have to be ashamed...just because the rest of the world is F****** !!!!

The only thing we have to be ashamed about is the fact that our Pres has cowered to the media propaganda and has failed to press a serious war or campaign against terrorism. I shouldn't have to explain. Multiple FR threads already contain the basis for my statement.

Someday we'll learn you can not make people like you [that hate you already] by being "nice" or showing "tolerance."
The only thing you can get from them is respect through Strength, and he has failed even in that test.

It is only a matter of time until the many other Nick Bergs happen..on our own soil..by the [fictional] "moderate" islamonazis who allegedly live in the US. We can not say we weren't warned.
5 posted on 05/16/2004 4:23:56 AM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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Yes, it is much more appropriate for American medals winners to crawl on their hands and knees and beg to world to forgive them for being the best at their sport.

They should hang their heads in utter shame for living in the land of the free and the home of the brave, defender of the entire world against people who hack off peoples heads for religious reasons.

As a matter of fact, the Olympic committees should make our athletes start every race with their shoes tied together just to appease the people who will be offended.

6 posted on 05/16/2004 4:26:48 AM PDT by JZoback
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A different environment awaits the American team in Athens, where officials are anxious to replace apple pie with humble pie.

Why? What the hell do we have to feel humble about...especially if we win a medal?

Fire this Moran idiot...NOW!

8 posted on 05/16/2004 4:29:48 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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I recall the press lionization of the two US trackmen raising clenched fists on the awards stand twenty some years ago.


9 posted on 05/16/2004 4:30:18 AM PDT by Jumpmaster (Teddy is all wet.)
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Time for some good ol' American nationalism, I say...

Be out front, in-your-face proud and loud!

The Olympics are for strutting your stuff, not cowering and whimpering!

Let the rest of the world wallow in fear...I'm not buying it!


11 posted on 05/16/2004 4:30:52 AM PDT by wunderkind54
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Don't carry the American flag?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If this appeasement insanity keeps up my head's going to explode! If we can't carry our flag, then our athletes should stay at home. They're going to be targets anyway and goodness knows we can't count on our spineless "allies" not to give them up in a hostage crisis.

12 posted on 05/16/2004 4:31:42 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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Please, will the AHs who propose that the US flag not be displayed by US athletes go to hell.


13 posted on 05/16/2004 4:32:39 AM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: Indie

"It is only a matter of time until the many other Nick Bergs happen..on our own soil..by the [fictional] "moderate" islamonazis who allegedly live in the US. We can not say we weren't warned."

At the risk of getting WAY off topic on this thread....

I think about that stuff too. Well, not that stuff, I think about suicide bombers in New Jersey shopping malls and NYC subway stations. But what I want to know is what will happen then? Will the gov't start to round up all Muslims? Will they shut down the Mosques? Will there be mass deportation of Muslims who are foreign nationals? If these things do not happen, will non-Muslim Americans take to the streets and demand them?


14 posted on 05/16/2004 4:33:19 AM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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And if we can't display the flag proudly after a win, we should just run arol


15 posted on 05/16/2004 4:34:30 AM PDT by ChuckShick (He's clerking for me...)
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The plan is part of a charm offensive aimed at repairing the country's international reputation following the deepening crisis in Iraq and damaging revelations of torture and mistreatment of detainees by US forces at the Abu Ghraib prison.

Go pound sand, lefty.

17 posted on 05/16/2004 4:36:41 AM PDT by Aeronaut (How many times can a flip-flop flip before a flip-flop becomes a flop?)
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It will be VERY interesting to see how the Iraqi soccer team reacts to the Americans.

The world will finally have a chance to see how the Iraqi people really feel about Americans, minus the media filter.

If the Iraqi soccer team boos/spits at Americans (I seriously doubt it), then the world's opinion will be confirmed.

But if the opposite reaction occurs, the world just might have to wonder....


18 posted on 05/16/2004 4:37:17 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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Mike Moran, a veteran former spokesman for the US Olympic Committee who has been retained as a consultant to advise athletes about the correct way to behave

Ironic name.

19 posted on 05/16/2004 4:38:24 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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THIS WILL NOT STAND.

We need to let our USOC and Olympians know that we are proud of them and they need to take their flags and wave them proudly.

I haven't had my Saturday coffee yet but we need to do our best Freeping on this.

PS: I offer a bounty for every flag waved directly into the face of a Frenchie lol.


20 posted on 05/16/2004 4:40:05 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads” Surat Mohammed:4)
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