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U.S. Athletes Told Not to Carry Flag at Olympics
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | 16 May, 2004 | Simon Hart

Posted on 05/16/2004 4:14:05 AM PDT by tjwmason

Fear of a hostile reaction has led US officials to warn its participants in the Games against overtly patriotic displays
By Simon Hart in New York
(Filed: 16/05/2004)


American athletes have been warned not to wave the US flag during their medal celebrations at this summer's Olympic Games in Athens for fear of provoking crowd hostility and harming the country's already battered public image.

The spectacle of victorious athletes grabbing a national flag and parading it around the stadium is a familiar part of international sporting competition, but US Olympic officials have ordered their 550-strong team to exercise restraint and avoid any jingoistic behaviour.

The plan is part of a charm offensive aimed at repairing the country's international reputation following the deepening crisis in Iraq and damaging revelations of torture and mistreatment of detainees by US forces at the Abu Ghraib prison.

"American athletes find themselves in extraordinary circumstances in Athens in relation to the world as we know it right now," said Mike Moran, a veteran former spokesman for the US Olympic Committee who has been retained as a consultant to advise athletes about the correct way to behave.

"Regardless of whether there is anti-American sentiment in Athens or not, the world watches Americans a lot now in terms of how they behave and our culture. What I am trying to do with the athletes and coaches is to suggest to them that they consider how the normal things they do at an event, including the Olympics, might be viewed as confrontational or insulting or cause embarrassment."

Four years ago, at the Sydney Olympics, the victorious American 4 x 100m relay team were widely condemned for their arrogant strutting with the US flag following their gold medal presentation, and American officials, mindful of the country's precarious standing in world opinion, are desperate to avoid any repeat.

"Unfortunately, using the flag as a prop or a piece of apparel or indulging in boasting behaviour is becoming part of our society in sport because every night on TV we see our athletes - professional, college or otherwise - taunting their opponents and going face to face with each other," said Mr Moran. "We are trying, for 17 days, to break that culture.

"What I am telling the athletes is, 'Don't run over and grab a flag and take it round the track with you.' It's not business as usual for American athletes. If a Kenyan or a Russian grabs their national flag and runs round the track or holds it high over their heads, it might not be viewed as confrontational. Where we are in the world right now, an American athlete doing that might be viewed in another manner."

Mr Moran added that the behaviour of British athletes could face similar scrutiny in Athens, though the British Olympic Association insists that there are no plans to ban them from celebrating with the Union flag.

A spokesman for the association said: "It's up to every athlete how he or she wishes to celebrate their Olympic success and there are no plans to issue any instructions. We are confident that every athlete will celebrate in a responsible way."

The US Olympic Committee's anxiety at over-exuberant displays of jingoism is a far cry from the scenes at the 2002 Winter Olympics, hosted by Salt Lake City, where the American flag became the defining symbol of the Games.

A different environment awaits the American team in Athens, where officials are anxious to replace apple pie with humble pie.

Americans were booed at the World Athletics Championships in Paris last year - largely as a result of Jon Drummond's histrionic protest at his disqualification from a heat of the 100 metres. And at an Olympic football qualifying match in Mexico earlier this year the American team was subjected to sustained barracking by a section of the crowd, including chants of "Osama, Osama".

Despite the extra burden being placed on American athletes, officials still predict a US medal haul of more than 100, and have made it their target to finish top of the medals table. The irony is that finishing the Games as the most powerful nation is unlikely to endear them to the rest of the world.

"We're not the favourite kid in the world right now," admitted Bill Martin, the US Olympic Committee's acting president.

"We are sensitive not only to the security issue but to jingoism in its raw sense. That is why we are sending people around to educate the athletes as to the appropriate behaviour."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004olympics; anarcholeftists; antiamerican; antiamericanism; athens; bigotry; boycottheolympics; boycottolympics; greece; leftistbigots; oldglory; olympicgames; olympics; olympics2004; usausausa; worldopinion
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To: Luker
You started this - I simply exposed you for what you are - and, obviously, you can't take a little heat -

Wrong.

You decided to go off topic and indulge in a little disingenuous Bush bashing.

141 posted on 05/16/2004 6:11:08 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: tjwmason

This reporter misspelled Mike Moran's name, it is really Mike Moron!


142 posted on 05/16/2004 6:11:11 PM PDT by dalereed (,)
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To: Pippin
Can you beleive thios?

Not carry the flag? hardly .......


143 posted on 05/16/2004 6:20:34 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Fly our flag proudly, or pull out of the games. It's that simple.

If this policy stands, and we participate, I won't be watching.
144 posted on 05/16/2004 6:30:46 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: GailA

Boycott the products that feature the athelet that won the medal that didn't wave the flag, or who disgracefully raise their right arms in "protest" when the national anthem is played. Kick em in the pocketbook and that'll be remembered.


145 posted on 05/16/2004 6:33:24 PM PDT by kcar (Bill Clinton: the American Republic's Caligua.)
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To: tjwmason
Welcome to the happy world of anarcho-leftism. Don't carry the U.S. flag to celebrate a U.S. victory, that would be jingoistic; but for a Russian to carry a Russian flag to celebrate a Russian victory would be fine?????

welcome to the UN ideal world, where nationalism is okay... that is, unless you're white.

146 posted on 05/16/2004 6:35:08 PM PDT by Libertarian4Bush (may contain traces of peanuts)
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To: R. Scott
Maybe they think our teams should carry a green flag ....

Will the Olympic contestants from countries of the Islamic persuasion also be told to be careful about displaying that Crescent and Star thingy?

NO WAY!

While we meekly keep the American flag folded up, you can bet the place will be crawling with people running around with big banners whose message is "ALLAH IS GREAT!"


147 posted on 05/16/2004 6:49:49 PM PDT by henbane
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To: RAY

Please, will the AHs who propose that the US flag not be displayed by US athletes go to hell.

How about akll USA athlete's stay home and also, absolutely NO American Television networks carry ANY of the events. Let's see if they can run a "profitable" Olympics without the revenue from the USA networks.
I am more than a little worried about our athletes, anyway.


148 posted on 05/16/2004 7:02:19 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: tjwmason

149 posted on 05/16/2004 7:10:00 PM PDT by Sockdologer
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To: Eaker; prairiebreeze
Whoa, there, Big Nelly.. Prairie asked a legitimate question:

You were at the 2000 Freepers Inaugural Ball and yet your sign up date is 2003-01-23?

Luker responded:You little sneaky balless shit.

Now. I ain't critisizin' nobody for der slang or funny way dey talk. In fact, my use of "ain't" should have clued you in that I wasn't doing that. But luker starts with typical DU mantra "I'm taking my ball and going home" makes me wonder, like prairie did, about his status as a freeper. Luker's reply doesn't help things, either.

If ya noticed, I didn't post until Luker got needlessly nasty.. And I don't think mine was a "personal" attack..

Da Grammer Sheriff

150 posted on 05/16/2004 7:10:13 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta!!!! Support Congressman Billybob! Go to www.Armorforcongress.com!!!)
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To: tjwmason

I wonder if the Confederate flag would be more acceptable.


151 posted on 05/16/2004 7:11:45 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: tjwmason

The Greeks are in way over there head.IMO


152 posted on 05/16/2004 7:11:55 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: Indie

The USA should just stay away from the Olympics.

If they don't like our Flag, then keep our US Dollars here and not in Athens.

The whole Olympic 2004 games is a setting for disaster.

Connect the dots.....the sooner the better.

As I have said on Olympic threads before, the only medals that should be given this year are to our brave men and women fighting for our Country's freedom around the world!


153 posted on 05/16/2004 7:14:16 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: not2worry

I wish that all of our athletes would decide to boycot the games but that's probably too much to hope for.


154 posted on 05/16/2004 7:15:05 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: tjwmason

better: issue special Stars and Stripes to the athletes, with MOLON LABE (in Roman) stiched in red on the white stripes and the Greek (ancient AND modern) stiched in white on the red.


155 posted on 05/16/2004 7:18:22 PM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6; prairiebreeze; Luker
Whoa, there, Big Nelly.. Prairie asked a legitimate question:

I agree, but it could have been perhaps better handled via FReep mail.

You didn't ask him why he was so upset by the question, you criticized his accidental grammatical error.

A legal document needs to be as grammatically correct as possible. A post of FR does not. That is what I was pointing out.

Now would somebody please refute his argument??!!??

156 posted on 05/16/2004 7:20:42 PM PDT by Eaker (That the bright star of Texas shall never be dim while her soil boasts a son to raise rifle or limb.)
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To: Indie
Someday we'll learn you can not make people like you [that hate you already] by being "nice" or showing "tolerance." The only thing you can get from them is respect through Strength, and he has failed even in that test.

That's funny. The Dem's, the liberal press and the rest of the world have the opposite view.
They constantly complain that Bush is ONLY interested in showing "strength" (the cowboy) and his INTOLERANCE has aleinated the world.

And in one way they are right. Bush has been tougher on terrorists than any world leader.

157 posted on 05/16/2004 7:25:00 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: not2worry

Agreed. 100% agreed.


158 posted on 05/16/2004 7:25:20 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: tjwmason
The rest of the world is so green with envy at the world's ONLY super power, America...that they can't stand ANY displays of our patriotism.
They see it as gloating.
159 posted on 05/16/2004 7:27:36 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: tjwmason; All

You know what?!

Screw world opinion!

I'll be the first to admit that the gold medal celebration by the 4x100 team was a little tacky...but that doesn't prohibit US athletes from celebrating a gold medal win.

If the rest of the world has a problem with our athletes celbrating...well, screw 'em!


160 posted on 05/16/2004 7:28:03 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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