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DO WE WANT TO WIN?
New York Post ^ | 5/15/04 | DEROY MURDOCK

Posted on 05/15/2004 2:21:07 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

May 15, 2004 -- WE interrupt America's self-flagellation over the Iraqi prison abuse scandal to ask three key crucial questions: 1) Just who were the inmates photographed at Abu Ghraib? Did they innocently wander into that Baghdad-area jail after Friday prayers, or were these the types who turned minarets into snipers' nests?


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deroymurdock; homoerotica
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1 posted on 05/15/2004 2:21:07 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

I shudder to think that our great country could fall to a handfull of boxcutters and a few well placed panties....


2 posted on 05/15/2004 2:26:23 AM PDT by Freesofar (Thank You to our Troops for defending us day and night)
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To: kattracks

We have to win. A plain ole blindfold will do.


3 posted on 05/15/2004 2:27:14 AM PDT by marty60
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To: kattracks

Anyone happening to catch an episode of 'COPS' may be excused for wondering why German shepherds can be used to catch and detain alleged suspects in the US, but are verboten in Iraq. This handwringing over thugs is insane, and we've now let hundreds of them loose who will go right back to building bombs and slitting throats.


4 posted on 05/15/2004 2:32:31 AM PDT by hershey
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To: kattracks
Do we want to win?

Not sure anymore.

See also Methods of Interrogation Banned in Iraq.

5 posted on 05/15/2004 2:36:44 AM PDT by k2blader (The equivalent of Nick Berg’s murder happens in our nation every 24 seconds. And it’s legal.)
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To: kattracks

Rageaholic's patented method for information extraction: 3 delicious salty meals a day, no water. A pitcher of icewater is placed just out of the unlawful combatant's reach. Within a week, valuable information can be had for cups of water.


6 posted on 05/15/2004 2:47:13 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: Freesofar
America's top commander in Iraq, Lt.-Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, prohibited Thursday the use of sensory deprivation and "stress positions" (uncomfortable body poses) as tools of interrogation in Iraq. Chief Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita admitted "the heightened scrutiny of the last couple of weeks" might have forced Sanchez's hand.

Capitol Hill news reported that the CIA had contracted with Helen Thomas for a new twist on torture, a video of her stripping. Those who had seen previews said "If this doesn't get them to talk, nothing will."

It is reported that the American Red Cross is seeking to prevent the new films use in interrogating prisoners as they say it clearly violates the Geneva Convention. Senator Kerry, who served in Vietnam said he was for the new video before he was against it. He said he may need to watch it a couple of more times before making a final decision.

7 posted on 05/15/2004 2:53:48 AM PDT by listenhillary (The media and DNC have joined the terrorists and declared war on the USA.)
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To: Freesofar
"I shudder to think that our great country could fall to a handfull of boxcutters and a few well placed panties...."

If we fall it will be from The Net & TV.
Thank God none of it was available during WWII, or we would probably be speaking German or Japanese or both.

President Bush told us early on, this is a WAR and it won't be easy.
How soon we forget.

8 posted on 05/15/2004 3:04:08 AM PDT by DeaconRed (TODAY (05/15/04) IS ARMED FORCES DAY--Thank you brave men & women today & everyday! ! !)
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To: Voter#537
President Bush told us early on, this is a WAR and it won't be easy. How soon we forget.

No, we don't forget. Dems, and anti-Americans forget. conveniently.

That's what all this is about, the dems, social independants, and Libertarians do not think terrorist are bad...These three groups do not think we are in a war. They want to equate our leadership with the enemy, and imply they are just as bad or worse.

It is all about hating Bush more than the enemy...

9 posted on 05/15/2004 3:19:47 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: kattracks

We are domed, controlled by wacko judges, hope is gone the only cure is that the Lord comes. What will Kennedy and others say when asked to explain their actions, oh I know, it was Bush's fault.


10 posted on 05/15/2004 3:50:28 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: kattracks

The alternative is when the next war effort occurs, "take no prisoners".


11 posted on 05/15/2004 4:23:58 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: hershey
This handwringing over thugs is insane, and we've now let hundreds of them loose who will go right back to building bombs and slitting throats.
This handwringing assures a new terrorist attack on our soil. Only then will the handwringing stop. Too bad we as a nation are so stupid we must wait for several thousand (hundred thousand?) more of our citizens to be murdered (and our economy to once again tank) before we stop wringing our hands over the people who murder us.

Words fail me.

12 posted on 05/15/2004 4:33:10 AM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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To: kattracks

The WoT is rapidly turning PC. We won't be able to win a PC war; we never have.

Just heard a FoxNews report that 7 forms of 'torture' are no longer allowed.

Food type
Sleep deprivation
Solitaire for more than 30 days
Excessive physical stress for more than 45 minutes

etc.

The libs/dems have succeeded, with all their rants of the Iraqi Prison photos, of making this WoT even more PC. Now, the guards/interrogators have to play nice with the murdering terrorist Islamofanatical thugs.

[We should put Kennedy, Pellosi, HClinton, and a dozen or so other Congressidiots in cells with those prisoners for 24 hours.]

I suppose it is understandable, because the leftist-liberals have stripped authority and enforcement away from the US Law Enforcement environments.

Last week, I read one article that mentioned the Coalition guards have to use rubber bullets when guarding prisoners. [Some of these prisoners are the worst of the worst; of the caliber who butchered Nick Berg.]

Also last week, on one of the talk shows, a knowledgeable guest (author of related books on terrorism) said the guards were no longer allowed to 'hood' prisoners.

More and more PC crap. The terrorists are laughing their rears off. [And don't give me the 'we have a higher moral ground' PC-BS. That is going to get many, many more butchered, too.]


14 posted on 05/15/2004 5:07:58 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Freesofar

Check history. Count the number of great civilizations that were felled by barbarians.

We are not immume--especially as the WoT turns PC and there is a frightening possibility that John Kerry will be President January 20, 2005.


15 posted on 05/15/2004 5:11:09 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: kattracks

It's disgraceful what these prisoners had to go thru...

My suggestion is to, upon capture, force each captive to don a bright red shirt...And then take all of his bullets...And send 'em back home with that humiliating shirt on...

Our boys will be much safer knowing that when they see an enemy combatant in red, there will be no danger...The guy with the red shirt doesn't have any bullets...



16 posted on 05/15/2004 5:16:42 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: kattracks

Some of the citizens of the United States realize what is at stake and know that we must win if we are to survive.

A big portion of the citizens of the United States hate the way of life we enjoy. Their sole goal is the destruction of the United States and will aid anyone in that endevor.

Another goodly portion of the citizens of the United States only care about whai is in it for them[free medicine, free money, free food, free housing]. They do not care that the government must first steal from others in order to give it to them. As long as they get their freebies, a ball game, and alcohol and drugs do not care what happend to the welfare of the Nation.

This last group helps, by their stupidity the second group.What they do not realize that if the second group succeeds that they will take care of them but not in the way they expect.


17 posted on 05/15/2004 5:20:01 AM PDT by sport
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To: listenhillary

If I was being interrogated and my interogator made me watch a video of Helen Thomas stripping and told me I was going to have to watch it until I told him what he wanted to know. My next words would be, "What do you want to know?"


18 posted on 05/15/2004 5:23:46 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Either that or Janet Reno and Barney Frank teamed up with Hillary Clinton. Imagine it. Janet, Barney and a guy.


19 posted on 05/15/2004 5:28:33 AM PDT by Agnes Heep (Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster)
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To: sirchtruth
Dems, and anti-Americans forget. conveniently.

They don't forget either, at least those not on drugs, but their goals are different. Many of them think America deserves to lose the war. They don't seem to understand that if America loses it then they lose also. They think they are Citizens Of The World who are automatically part of the ruling class when their hated homeland is overrun by the righteous repressed.

20 posted on 05/15/2004 5:57:12 AM PDT by arthurus
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