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Kerry’s Defiance the Best Thing to Happen to Catholic Church in North America?
LifeSite ^ | May 11, 2004

Posted on 05/14/2004 12:00:50 PM PDT by NYer

Tuesday May 11, 2004

Kerry’s Defiance the Best Thing to Happen to Catholic Church in North America?
Pro-Life Leader Says Kerry is attempting to make his abortionism and his Catholicism one

PITTSBURGH, May 11, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Democratic Presidential candidate, John Kerry has instigated the biggest storm of controversy in the US Catholic Church since news of the priestly sexual abuse scandal in the spring of 2002.

Kerry and his supporters continue to throw gasoline on the fire by his continued public reception of communion, most recently on Mother’s day at St. Scholastica Catholic Church in suburban Pittsburgh. Mother’s day is one regularly chosen by pro-life activists for an array of activities. Many Catholic pro-life commentators have pointed out that this is a critical juncture for the American episcopate and the Catholic Church as a whole. In Catholic doctrine, the reception of communion, believed by Catholics to be the actual body and blood of Jesus, is a public sign of unity of belief.

Kerry’s defiance of his Church is making Catholic Eucharistic practices newsworthy in the secular media and forcing both bishops and politicians to make decisions. On May 10, New Jersey Senate Majority Leader Bernard Kenny (D-Hoboken), announced that he would be leaving the practice of Catholicism. After a meeting with the pastor of his Newark diocese parish, the senator announced that he would, “look for other options to express my faith and will probably join another Christian church.”

Newark Bishop John Myers wrote in his monthly pastoral letter that for a Catholic, faith is always expressed within the larger context of the ecclesial institution. In his letter he teaches that the faith of Catholics and the Catholic Faith cannot be separated. Quoting the Catechism of the Catholic Church, bishop Myers writes, “Whoever says ‘I believe’ says ‘I pledge myself to what We believe.’”

Some have made the criticism that the attention is unevenly pointed at politicians over the abortion issue while ignoring other hot-button Catholic issues such as divorce and homosexual “marriage”. Rev. Larry Wieseler, the pastor of St. Mary's parish of the Crookston diocese in Minnesota. has asked two homosexual parishioners who publicly claim to be married, not to receive or distribute communion at Mass or sing in the choir. The two men, who met at a Catholic retreat, have vowed to find another church.

The next Synod of Bishops in Rome, scheduled for October 2005, will focus on issues surrounding the reception of the Eucharist. A 75-page outline has been prepared by the Vatican providing topics for discussion. The document says that the Catholic Church does not have the power to give Communion to those “teaching error” or to “persons living an immoral life.” “Communion can be received only in union with the whole church, after overcoming any separation because of religion or morality,” it said.

The US bishops will be meeting in Denver to discuss the problem at the same time Kerry plans a campaign stop there and there is speculation as to whether Archbishop Chaput, considered a conservative, will refuse him communion. An article in the Denver Post claims that this confluence will be a “defining moment” in the presidential campaign.

After the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops (CCCB) announced that the Canadian episcopate would be taking no action to curb public political dissenters in Canada, Canadian pro-life Catholics have reacted with no discernable surprise.

Natalie Hudson, executive director of Toronto Right to Life said, “The controversy is forcing the bishops in the whole Church to show what they are made of. This controversy is going to be very good for the Church in the long run; it is going to lance a boil that has festered since the (Second Vatican) Council. Bishops have avoided any firm expression of condemnation on many key issues. Now they are being forced to come out and say, ‘this is wrong’ without compromise, or back away from the faith altogether. There won’t be any more wiggle room after this.”

Hudson went on to say that Kerry is even more pernicious than Clinton was. “He has an agenda that is religious as much as it is political; he is trying to de-sacralize his Catholic faith and claim that being pro-abortion is a legitimate expression of it. He is attempting to make his abortionism and his Catholicism one,” she said.


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To: Notwithstanding

I'd say that their is nothing that has developed since the Vatican got rid of their death penalty in 1969 that would make me doubt that Aquinas is correct and Rembert Weakland is wrong. It is a matter of private morals...like whether or not somebody tithes or says the rosary daily. Supporting abortion is supporting murder. Equating homosexual union with marriage is calling evil good.


61 posted on 05/15/2004 6:03:54 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: AMDG&BVMH

I think enough Roman Catholics in Ohio and Pennsylvania might care enough to cause Kerry problems in both states.


62 posted on 05/15/2004 6:05:02 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: Mr. Silverback

bttt


63 posted on 05/15/2004 11:46:24 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Jim Noble
Thanks.

Are you among us yet?

God bless you and yours.

64 posted on 05/16/2004 9:10:59 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ERegan
Does anyone remember that this is a secular nation? The Vatican and all other religious bodies have no business interfering in political matters. We are either a "free nation" or a phony nation. What freedom are we defending and promising to other countries if our churches are allowed to try and control politicians?

That's a very nice speech.

What in blazes does it have to do with a Church enforcing it's own rules about who can and cannot receive Communion in that Church?

Kerry has a First Amendment right to seek to become a Protestant, a Jew, a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Druid or an atheist if he does not want to follow the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Kerry does not have a First Amendment right to receive Communion in the Catholic Church if the Catholic Church determines that he is in a state of mortal sin any more than I have a First Amendment right to show up at a synagogue and demand a Bar Mitzvah.

65 posted on 05/16/2004 9:40:40 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: BlackElk

Thank you for your kind wishes!


66 posted on 05/17/2004 3:43:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: dubyaismypresident; hobbes1

ping.


67 posted on 05/17/2004 3:45:16 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: ERegan

"The Vatican and all other religious bodies have no business interfering in political matters."

Political issue? This NOT a olitical issue. It is a moral issue of the highest order. Our once great nation is doomed if we continue to lsaught ther unborn, the most innocent amoung us.


68 posted on 05/17/2004 6:24:21 AM PDT by AdA$tra (Hypocrisy is the Vaseline of social intercourse....)
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To: Jim Noble

Brothers in Christ!


69 posted on 05/17/2004 5:11:02 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: AMDG&BVMH; don-o
"The Church teaches that if you are not in a state of grace, going to Communion is an act of Eucharistic sacrilege: a very serious thing. Very serious."

One point that seems to have been missed is that according to Catholic faith and teaching it's not only a very serious act of Eucharistic sacrilege for the person who is in a state of grave sin to receive communion...it's also an even greater sacrilege for the minister to give it to them!

One could claim a certain degree of ignorance of the gravity of their spiritual state while under sin, what the spiritual consequences are for participating in the Eucharist without being reconciled first, blah blah blah. But a Priest or Eucharistic Minister knows (or should!) full well what the consequences to you would be. And if they do not refuse you communion then they are personally culpable in causing those consequences.

It's like showing up covered in gasoline...when they hand you the host they're handing you a lit match!

By demanding communion while known to be in a state of grave sin, no matter who you are, you are asking the minister to also perform a sin of the gravest magnitude by knowingly allowing you to commit a terrible sacrilege when they can easily prevent it.

And the stupid part is that it's nothing at all to refrain. Lots of people stay in their seats during Mass for a variety of reasons. My husband and I are two of them because I'm still in the process of annuling my first marriage. And we're hardly the only ones. No big deal!

That right there should tell you that his motives in making an issue out of this are purely selfish!

If he really wanted to try and be a good Catholic, but there was an issue on which he just couldnt find it in his conscience to agree with the Church, then he should follow her mandates for that situation...repent or refrain. Either way it doesnt preclude him from attending services or activities, just from receiving the rites of communion and reconcilliation (confession)...since ya cant honestly apologize for something you aint sorry for and which you have every intention of continuing to do.

Still waiting to hear about that...whether or not he's even tried to confess the sin of supporting/promoting abortion...and whether or not his priest would accept his confession as valid. I certainly hope not...on both counts!

I sure hope the bishops belly up on this (and other issues)...and not just in the case of public figures!

When leaders dont lead, followers wont follow, then everyone gets lost!
70 posted on 05/19/2004 12:46:14 AM PDT by LadyWilkie (Catholic in training perpetua)
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