Skip to comments.Kerry’s Defiance the Best Thing to Happen to Catholic Church in North America?
Posted on 05/14/2004 12:00:50 PM PDT by NYer
Tuesday May 11, 2004
PITTSBURGH, May 11, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Democratic Presidential candidate, John Kerry has instigated the biggest storm of controversy in the US Catholic Church since news of the priestly sexual abuse scandal in the spring of 2002.
Kerry and his supporters continue to throw gasoline on the fire by his continued public reception of communion, most recently on Mothers day at St. Scholastica Catholic Church in suburban Pittsburgh. Mothers day is one regularly chosen by pro-life activists for an array of activities. Many Catholic pro-life commentators have pointed out that this is a critical juncture for the American episcopate and the Catholic Church as a whole. In Catholic doctrine, the reception of communion, believed by Catholics to be the actual body and blood of Jesus, is a public sign of unity of belief.
Kerrys defiance of his Church is making Catholic Eucharistic practices newsworthy in the secular media and forcing both bishops and politicians to make decisions. On May 10, New Jersey Senate Majority Leader Bernard Kenny (D-Hoboken), announced that he would be leaving the practice of Catholicism. After a meeting with the pastor of his Newark diocese parish, the senator announced that he would, look for other options to express my faith and will probably join another Christian church.
Newark Bishop John Myers wrote in his monthly pastoral letter that for a Catholic, faith is always expressed within the larger context of the ecclesial institution. In his letter he teaches that the faith of Catholics and the Catholic Faith cannot be separated. Quoting the Catechism of the Catholic Church, bishop Myers writes, Whoever says I believe says I pledge myself to what We believe.
Some have made the criticism that the attention is unevenly pointed at politicians over the abortion issue while ignoring other hot-button Catholic issues such as divorce and homosexual marriage. Rev. Larry Wieseler, the pastor of St. Mary's parish of the Crookston diocese in Minnesota. has asked two homosexual parishioners who publicly claim to be married, not to receive or distribute communion at Mass or sing in the choir. The two men, who met at a Catholic retreat, have vowed to find another church.
The next Synod of Bishops in Rome, scheduled for October 2005, will focus on issues surrounding the reception of the Eucharist. A 75-page outline has been prepared by the Vatican providing topics for discussion. The document says that the Catholic Church does not have the power to give Communion to those teaching error or to persons living an immoral life. Communion can be received only in union with the whole church, after overcoming any separation because of religion or morality, it said.
The US bishops will be meeting in Denver to discuss the problem at the same time Kerry plans a campaign stop there and there is speculation as to whether Archbishop Chaput, considered a conservative, will refuse him communion. An article in the Denver Post claims that this confluence will be a defining moment in the presidential campaign.
After the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops (CCCB) announced that the Canadian episcopate would be taking no action to curb public political dissenters in Canada, Canadian pro-life Catholics have reacted with no discernable surprise.
Natalie Hudson, executive director of Toronto Right to Life said, The controversy is forcing the bishops in the whole Church to show what they are made of. This controversy is going to be very good for the Church in the long run; it is going to lance a boil that has festered since the (Second Vatican) Council. Bishops have avoided any firm expression of condemnation on many key issues. Now they are being forced to come out and say, this is wrong without compromise, or back away from the faith altogether. There wont be any more wiggle room after this.
Hudson went on to say that Kerry is even more pernicious than Clinton was. He has an agenda that is religious as much as it is political; he is trying to de-sacralize his Catholic faith and claim that being pro-abortion is a legitimate expression of it. He is attempting to make his abortionism and his Catholicism one, she said.
John Kerry _ CINO (Catholic in Name Only)
Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list
Since leavign the White House, can anyone produce a picture of Clinton either entering or leaving a church, and/or carrying a Bible, simply to go in and worship?"
One can only hope. Ping!
On May 10, New Jersey Senate Majority Leader Bernard Kenny (D-Hoboken), announced that he would be leaving the practice of Catholicism.... senator announced that he would, look for other options to express my faith and will probably join another Christian church....
Er, what legitimate Christian denomination adheres to abortion?
Boy! you can say that again..
In Catholic doctrine, the reception of communion, believed by Catholics to be the actual body and blood of Jesus, is a public sign of unity of belief.The Eucharist as the paramount sign of Christian unity is as scriptural as it is Catholic:
Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all partake of the one loaf.(1Cor10:16-17 (NIV))
...just as long as we don't hear anything about the death penalty. If it was OK with Pius X, it's still good with me.
The United Church of Christ (Congregationalists), more or less
This politician made the right decision. I'm not being sarcastic here. This man obviously wants a religion where the Mind of Man reigns supreme, where God's eternal Word can be subverted to the will of his humanistic ideology.
I can think of several "churches" where he would be very much at home. He can show up every week for "worship", be able to claim piety for public purposes, and have none of his beliefs challenged.
New Jersey State Senate Majority (for the time being) Leader Kenny is made into a somewhat honest man (he will not be leaving the practice of Catholicism because he already left by supporting abortion and other atrocities) by Archbishop Myers as Kenny formally acknowledges his apostasy. Senator: Don't let the door..... and, ummmm, good riddance!
2. The Roman Catholic Church in its decisions to admit to the Holy Eucharist those who claim membership in the Church is NOT governed by the United States government or any other government save that of the Roman Catholic Church. That principle is covered by freedom of worship.
3. You are apparently not a Catholic. Hence, whether the Roman Catholic Church allows blatant apostates and babykillers such as John Kerry to receive the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ is none of your business. MYOB. If you happen to be a Catholic and you disagree with the actions of those Catholic bishops and the Vatican courageous enough to just say no to John Kerry when he approaches for the Eucharist, you had better outrank those bishops or it is again none of your business.
4. We are not going to be pushed around by secular enemies of the Church. Any questions?????
What you know about the Establishment and Freedom of Worship clauses of the federal First Amendment would fit within a neuron and would still be flat out wrong. The RCC, no less than the local Elks Club or the Yale Club of New York or a union local or a homeowners' association may discipline its members.
As you are a member since today, May 14, 2004, Newbie, I must observe that you have made a most inauspicious beginning here. Were you bored with Demonratic Underground?
This is not a political matter. Kerry holds views contrary to the Catholic Church and persists in those views. That makes him a heretic whether he is a politician or plumber.
The Church has to deal with heretics or it will become just another Protestant church. - tom
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