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Here to Stay: We're here, we're mildly and tolerantly homophobic, get used to it!
National Review Online ^ | May 14, 2004 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 05/14/2004 8:52:04 AM PDT by xsysmgr

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To: nothingnew
A FReeper whose name escapes me observed recently, and I concur, that Derbyshire is the only reason for reading NR.
41 posted on 05/14/2004 8:16:09 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow

Victor Davis Hanson would be Reason #2.


42 posted on 05/14/2004 9:06:49 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("He never talked vague, idealistic gas. When He said, 'Be perfect,' He meant it." -- C.S. Lewis)
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To: xsysmgr
"Doctor," she asks, "is there some kind of test you can do to tell me if my child is likely to become a homosexual adult?"

I don't like that idea. Although we may not understand their purpose, those people are part of The Design. It is playing God to do what is described there.

Besides which, it's a slippery slope of playing God. First we'll re-design the human race to eliminate homosexuality, and then we'll get rid of [unpopulargroup[,unpopulargroup]].

Otherwise I agree with everything the author said. I don't think the homosexual lobby and all their friends in the press can 'talk away' what most people experience as an instinctual revulsion to what those folks do in their spare time. I mean them no harm, but I do not want them in my face with it.

43 posted on 05/14/2004 9:25:09 PM PDT by Nick Danger (If it weren't for the last minute, nothing would ever get done.)
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To: Nick Danger
"I don't like that idea. Although we may not understand their purpose, those people are part of The Design. It is playing God to do what is described there."

Without question God will be pleased with Mankind when we advance enough to be able to reprogram DNA and its RNA messages into clever new designs.

If God wanted an idiot species that wouldn't advance itself intellectually over generations, then he wouldn't have created Man in the first place.

44 posted on 05/14/2004 9:51:02 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: xsysmgr

been in this man's shoes many a time.
nice to see someone boldly spell it all out.


45 posted on 05/14/2004 10:09:21 PM PDT by King Prout (o ye who have eyes to see, beware of stealth text!)
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To: Southack
Without question God will be pleased

I don't claim to know what God thinks. All I claim to know is that we humans have not demonstrated much skill at anticipating the consequences of tweaking large, natural, chaotic systems in order to "improve" them. The stuff we do by accident is plenty.

46 posted on 05/14/2004 11:09:17 PM PDT by Nick Danger (If it weren't for the last minute, nothing would ever get done.)
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To: Cicero; xsysmgr

<< Brilliantly written. This will produce a very large number of letters to the editor indeed. >>

Derb's a deep one, though! A scholar.

Love him.


49 posted on 05/15/2004 3:24:46 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Intact - Male - American - Republican - Pro-Bush - PRO-ISRAEL - Pro-War - Pro-Gun - Pro-Life! Next?)
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To: xsysmgr
We can't help it, we're born this way. To the best of my observation, it is congenital. The people afflicted by it report that they have always felt that way. You can't say it's unnatural, either — there is plenty of evidence for it in the animal kingdom. And, let's face it, in 99.99 percent of cases, it's perfectly harmless.

Not true...no scientific studies support this. Most, including the twin controlled studies indicate that other 'evironmental' and social factors have an affect on what 'turns us on' sexually and what 'turns of off' sexually.

Think about this: if homosexuality was genetic, what 'normal' gene imprint would have a person sexually turned on by another persons annus?

Sorry, the 'I-like-your-butt-hole' Gene is a myth. It's not there...

50 posted on 05/15/2004 5:33:09 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (We Have Our Republic - If We Can Keep It!)
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To: xsysmgr
The use of the word "homophobia" is in fact a smear. Real "homophobes" are mentally unbalanced people who exhibit extreme reactions -- they're off their rockers, in other words. Application of the word to normal people by homosexual polemicists is a witting smear.
51 posted on 05/15/2004 6:14:13 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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Last year in Chicago there was an outbreak of hepatitis in the 'gay' community. It cost the city of chicago TAXPAYERS over $500,000 to provide FREE immunization to the 'gays' by the Chicago Public Health Dept.

I'm sure the TAXPAYERS didn't feel 'gay' when their property tax bills went up to provide this FREE MEDICAL CARE. And no, they didn't have to show that they couldn't afford the shots, they just had to show up and get their FREE shots!

52 posted on 05/15/2004 8:10:17 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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To: Van Jenerette
We can't help it, we're born this way. To the best of my observation, it is congenital. The people afflicted by it report that they have always felt that way. You can't say it's unnatural, either — there is plenty of evidence for it in the animal kingdom. And, let's face it, in 99.99 percent of cases, it's perfectly harmless.

Derbyshire is referring to homophobia, not homosexuality. See the next line of text.

53 posted on 05/15/2004 11:04:07 AM PDT by xsysmgr
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To: xsysmgr
Thanks. The information in my post still stands on it's own.

Van

54 posted on 05/15/2004 1:54:31 PM PDT by Van Jenerette (We Have Our Republic - If We Can Keep It!)
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To: xsysmgr
the homo-agitators hate folk like me much more intensely than they hate the killers of Matthew Shepard.

And of course they applaud the monogamous 'homosexual' couple that brutally tortured, raped and murdered Jesse Dirkhising

Never let them forget

55 posted on 05/17/2004 6:17:30 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Nick Danger
I don't like that idea. Although we may not understand their purpose, those people are part of The Design. It is playing God to do what is described there.

Perhaps "homosexuality's" part in the design is to be another disease that mankind can conquer as part of our task to subdue the earth.

56 posted on 05/17/2004 6:20:41 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: seamole
It is not universally in human nature to be homophobic

I disagree. Deep down within us we know what is right and wrong. That's why even in societies that are more accepting of sexual perversity 'homosexuals' have a higher incidence of suicide. They know they are behaving wrongly.

57 posted on 05/17/2004 6:22:30 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: xsysmgr

Awesome article.


58 posted on 05/17/2004 6:35:18 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Van Jenerette

While I don't harbor the same feelings some on this thread do, I am interested in challenging some of the propaganda from the gay activists.

My mother watches a show where women come to a house to achieve some goal in order to "Start Over(name of the show." Well, one of the women had an identical twin--IDENTICAL. Except the woman at the house had a boyfriend and was getting married to him and her sister was a lesbian. If such things were truly genetic(as opposed to a confluence of factors) then both should have been gay.

I will say this, many lesbians I've seen up here in Seattle have very masculine features. YOu can still tell they are women but it IS almost like they were born to be men.


59 posted on 05/17/2004 6:41:02 AM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Islam!!)
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bump


60 posted on 05/17/2004 2:18:07 PM PDT by ELS
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